Importing of OOTP 6 leagues - Page 3

Markus Heinsohn · 05-14-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

And it doesn't mean that this is announcement is trivial. Markus had always insisted the two games would be compatible. This announcement, to say the least, is disappointing.

They ARE compatible. And I always said that history importing will probably not be possible.

Markus Heinsohn · 05-14-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Johnson

Not being able to import minor league players from 6.5 to OOTP 2006 will end my league. We will probably start over, but most of us do not want to. If we can import the minor league players, I think we'd be happy and can continue the league in its current form in OOTP 2006.

It's just the minor league STATS! Your top prospects will still be there, and they'll still be your top prospects!

Markus Heinsohn · 05-14-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

= Almost everything.

Come on Mal, you're old enough to know that this statement is untrue und not necessary.

CMH · 05-14-2006, 05:45 PM

Isn't history just a file anyway, really?

It's not as if the game mentions the San Diego Padres as the defending 2024 World Series Champions or anything.

We already know the league history files can be exported using Catobase (I believe it can). If it can then we are essentially getting the same thing. It won't be accessible through OOTP2006, but it'll be on your computer.

Imagination is what has us believe we are running our own dream world. Just stretch it a bit to include txt files outside of the existing game engine.

QuestGAV · 05-14-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Just keep a Cato export or a full OOTP 6.5 league html export on your league website, and there's no history lost. Of course it would have been better to have it directly in the game, but it's not that bad.

Do retired players major league stats cross over?

kq76 · 05-14-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

- Career minor league stats

For anyone who might be particularly disappointed about this point, you might want to keep in mind that a lot of people felt that minor league stats were not done all that well in the first place. I can't remember what the problem with them was (maybe someone who does can post it), but I do recall there was something about them that told people not to pay too much attention to them.

Losing the history stuff is the only thing that I'll miss, but even with that loss I think our leagues will be more enjoyable with the new game.

OTBA Team · 05-14-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

It's just the minor league STATS! Your top prospects will still be there, and they'll still be your top prospects!

I understand what you're syaing Markus, but you said that "No minor leagues are added by default, so you can chose what kind of minors you want in your league, if at all. If you do add minors, they will be filled up with fictional players automatically." What happens to the minor leaguers that import? Do they get added to the Major League roster? I think that's the part that's confusing most of us. Well, me at least.

Malleus Dei · 05-14-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Come on Mal, you're old enough to know that this statement is untrue und not necessary.

I'm also old enough to have hundreds of hours invested in leagues whose records are going away.

QuestGAV · 05-14-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeePride

Isn't history just a file anyway, really?

We already know the league history files can be exported using Catobase (I believe it can). If it can then we are essentially getting the same thing. It won't be accessible through OOTP2006, but it'll be on your computer.

I just don't like the idea of having a great divide within your league where you have to go back into another set of files to see what happened previously and there's no way to make the comparisons directly.

I absolutely think the reengineering of the game was vital to the game's future, the growing pains just look to be a worse than I think most of us expected.

Sweed · 05-14-2006, 05:51 PM

I guess I don't see why everyone seems so surprised by Markus' announcement.
We've known for quite awhile that history was not going to import. Markus stated it many times anything in text files wouldn't import.

The only thing that surprised me was that the career minor league stats wouldn't make the cut. Not sure why but not a big deal as long as the players come.

With this announcement I feel fairly certain that I will be moving my 12 year dyasty into v2006. I don't see much difference in starting a career with players known to me and lacking some history or starting with a new current roster pack and having no history at all. I can always keep a copy of my last almanac to look at if I get the urge.

Thanks Markus for giving us the ability to bring our 6.X careers forward, much appreciated.

smeyers003 · 05-14-2006, 05:54 PM

It is still possible to manually enter records? It would be a bit tedious but transfering records would be doable if they still work as they did before.

Malleus Dei · 05-14-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweed

With this announcement I feel fairly certain that I will be moving my 12 year dyasty into v2006. I don't see much difference in starting a career with players known to me and lacking some history or starting with a new current roster pack and having no history at all. I can always keep a copy of my last almanac to look at if I get the urge.

That's probably the best that we can do.

pavement316 · 05-14-2006, 06:17 PM

Right now I am playing OOTP 6 on a PC but want to convert to OOTP2006 for the Mac.

Will I be able to import my OOTP 6 league from PC to Mac?

rem · 05-14-2006, 06:18 PM

We about the retired.dat?

old timer · 05-14-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

We about the retired.dat?

While I realize you'd prefer an answer from Markus, I just can't imagine why it wouldn't import the retired players too. The retired.dat and players.dat files are of identical structure.

theasfl · 05-14-2006, 06:35 PM

Ive read all the comments, but didnt see anything to really build off of so Ill start a new, hoping that I get some sort of response despite you being busy...

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

A lot of things can not be directly imported, it was just impossible or way too time consuming to code this. So, what does not import?
- Any history of any kind (team history, league history, player history, record books etc.)

this is the only thing I truely care about and didnt expect it to directly import as youve stated many times. The one thing I have hoped for is to be able to manually edit the player histories like I do currently, will this be possible? Will it be possible for me to manually take one player history from v6 and copy it somewhere into the database for v06? Can I set what is kept (certain accomplishments) in the player history in the new database, to where I won't have to manually add in some things?

Will there again be manually editable record book like in v6?

league history meaning the single league history html page? doesn't bother me that much as I already have plenty of other html pages scattered throughout the site...but since the major league stats and such will import...will the new "catobase-like" history run retroactively, Im guessing if theres not its unlikely a 3rd party will allow it to be integrated into the games files itself?

the same applies questions to the team history pages.

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

- Any coaches (fictional coaches/scout get generated and added instead)
- Lineups, depth charts and pitching roles

doesnt bother me since the entire format for the lineup/depth chart/rotation changes with the new game...and I dont use coaches, but if I did Im guessing that format changes as well.

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

- Career minor league stats
- Team logos or player pictures (the game does no longer support .BMP files)
- Manager mode (your manager)
- Any passwords

none apply to me

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Also, you can only import leagues that are on Opening Day. You can import a league when you create a new game. No minor leagues are added by default, so you can chose what kind of minors you want in your league, if at all. If you do add minors, they will be filled up with fictional players automatically.

OK, now I need a beer

Opening Day as in the first day of the regular season or Opening Day as in the first day after you've hit proceed to new season...and after reading the comments Im still not quite sure I understand what you mean with the minor leagues there...Ill just give an example and perhaps someone can tell me what would happen...

I want to import my current online league which is obviously ML-AAA-AA-A....I want all three minor leagues and the major league to import and I want to add a rookie-level, full season minor league and an undisclosed amount of independent/foreign leagues...would this work?

rem · 05-14-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by old timer

While I realize you'd prefer an answer from Markus, I just can't imagine why it wouldn't import the retired players too. The retired.dat and players.dat files are of identical structure.

I asked once before and he said he wasn't sure. Thanks for the answer, all the same.

james17 · 05-14-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by theasfl

Opening Day as in the first day of the regular season or Opening Day as in the first day after you've hit proceed to new season...and after reading the comments Im still not quite sure I understand what you mean with the minor leagues there...Ill just give an example and perhaps someone can tell me what would happen...

I want to import my current online league which is obviously ML-AAA-AA-A....I want all three minor leagues and the major league to import and I want to add a rookie-level, full season minor league and an undisclosed amount of independent/foreign leagues...would this work?

I have the same question about the definition of 'Opening Day'.

kbensel · 05-14-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestGAV

Do retired players major league stats cross over?

This is a question I also am very interested in knowing the answer to...

thomamon · 05-14-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeePride

Isn't history just a file anyway, really?

It's not as if the game mentions the San Diego Padres as the defending 2024 World Series Champions or anything.

We already know the league history files can be exported using Catobase (I believe it can). If it can then we are essentially getting the same thing. It won't be accessible through OOTP2006, but it'll be on your computer.

Imagination is what has us believe we are running our own dream world. Just stretch it a bit to include txt files outside of the existing game engine.

Could not of said it better!

05-14-2006, 06:18 PM	#54
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05-14-2006, 05:45 PM	#44
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	Isn't history just a file anyway, really? It's not as if the game mentions the San Diego Padres as the defending 2024 World Series Champions or anything. We already know the league history files can be exported using Catobase (I believe it can). If it can then we are essentially getting the same thing. It won't be accessible through OOTP2006, but it'll be on your computer. Imagination is what has us believe we are running our own dream world. Just stretch it a bit to include txt files outside of the existing game engine.

05-14-2006, 05:51 PM	#50
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,737	I guess I don't see why everyone seems so surprised by Markus' announcement. We've known for quite awhile that history was not going to import. Markus stated it many times anything in text files wouldn't import. The only thing that surprised me was that the career minor league stats wouldn't make the cut. Not sure why but not a big deal as long as the players come. With this announcement I feel fairly certain that I will be moving my 12 year dyasty into v2006. I don't see much difference in starting a career with players known to me and lacking some history or starting with a new current roster pack and having no history at all. I can always keep a copy of my last almanac to look at if I get the urge. Thanks Markus for giving us the ability to bring our 6.X careers forward, much appreciated.

05-14-2006, 05:54 PM	#51
smeyers003 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 416	It is still possible to manually enter records? It would be a bit tedious but transfering records would be doable if they still work as they did before.

05-14-2006, 06:17 PM	#53
pavement316 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5	Right now I am playing OOTP 6 on a PC but want to convert to OOTP2006 for the Mac. Will I be able to import my OOTP 6 league from PC to Mac?