Retro Style Logos and Uniforms

[txranger]

Springfield Sallies

[knuckler]

I really like doing the regional/state leagues and I imagine them starting up in the early to middle part of the 20th Century. I've left off the cities that have MLB teams, but I'm not against including them if it makes more sense. I struggle sometimes with which cities to include - I'd rather have iconic cities than go strictly by population. Burlington is pretty far down the list size-wise, but it seems like a league set in New England should have at least one team from Vermont for instance. This list was the original setup:

Northern League

Auburn-Lewiston
Augusta
Bangor
Burlington
Concord
Manchester
Nashua
Portland

Southern Division

Bridgeport
Hartford
Lowell
New Haven
Providence
Springfield
Stamford
Worcester - (Hearts)

The cities in the Southern Division are quite a bit more populous so maybe they should just be the minor league for the Northern Division. I also feel like I'm leaving off cities that should probably be included like Waterbury and Fall River. Any thoughts or opinions would be really welcome, whether it's a complete setup idea or just a nickname for one of the cities. Thank you in advance for any input.

[Motorhead667]

Originally Posted by knuckler

I really like doing the regional/state leagues and I imagine them starting up in the early to middle part of the 20th Century. I've left off the cities that have MLB teams, but I'm not against including them if it makes more sense. I struggle sometimes with which cities to include - I'd rather have iconic cities than go strictly by population. Burlington is pretty far down the list size-wise, but it seems like a league set in New England should have at least one team from Vermont for instance. This list was the original setup:

Northern League

Auburn-Lewiston
Augusta
Bangor
Burlington
Concord
Manchester
Nashua
Portland

Southern Division

Bridgeport
Hartford
Lowell
New Haven
Providence
Springfield
Stamford
Worcester - (Hearts)

The cities in the Southern Division are quite a bit more populous so maybe they should just be the minor league for the Northern Division. I also feel like I'm leaving off cities that should probably be included like Waterbury and Fall River. Any thoughts or opinions would be really welcome, whether it's a complete setup idea or just a nickname for one of the cities. Thank you in advance for any input.

I think you should include Waterbury and Fall River I think those could be really interesting teams. Just my 2 cent's

[PW MAX]

Originally Posted by knuckler

Thanks again, JP. It's hard to single anyone out given how many interesting teams have been mentioned, but I really like Dark Cloud's world - his team names and city choices are unique and really diverse. Wwines, JoJo and PW (with great back stories) come up with fun ideas as well, and we can't forget Steve Sax Syndrome's league which was the basis for this thread. Tex has brought to life a lot of under the radar teams from the past, too. There have been so many great contributors.

Maybe it's my vanity kicking in, but I always get a kick out of seeing my name in print like this. I'll have a few more back stories soon as I can, I'm already in the early stages of planning. Might have to straighten my league out a little as well, but we'll see.

Originally Posted by knuckler

I really like doing the regional/state leagues and I imagine them starting up in the early to middle part of the 20th Century. I've left off the cities that have MLB teams, but I'm not against including them if it makes more sense. I struggle sometimes with which cities to include - I'd rather have iconic cities than go strictly by population. Burlington is pretty far down the list size-wise, but it seems like a league set in New England should have at least one team from Vermont for instance. This list was the original setup:

Northern League

Auburn-Lewiston
Augusta
Bangor
Burlington
Concord
Manchester
Nashua
Portland

Southern Division

Bridgeport
Hartford
Lowell
New Haven
Providence
Springfield
Stamford
Worcester - (Hearts)

The cities in the Southern Division are quite a bit more populous so maybe they should just be the minor league for the Northern Division. I also feel like I'm leaving off cities that should probably be included like Waterbury and Fall River. Any thoughts or opinions would be really welcome, whether it's a complete setup idea or just a nickname for one of the cities. Thank you in advance for any input.

One of my favorite team names that I've ever come up with was the Augusta Sea Wolves, (I always picture them with a lighthouse built into their stadium in some way). I have trouble putting them into my main league, as I figure they'd be a little too small a city, (and probably a little too close to the Minutemen of Boston as well), but sometimes I just play the "I want it that way" card and just push through. Lately, thinking about using them as a farm club for the Minutemen, actually. Either way, you said thoughts and opinions were welcome, even if it was just a nickname for one of the cities, so I thought I'd mention it.

On a side note, I almost always prefer to go with iconic cities in my leagues. Even though I was nearly a full 20 years away from being born when Ebbetts Field was demolished, it still feels just... wrong... not to have a team from Brooklyn on the list. If it's a full national league, I mean. Oh, and I absolutely LOVE the Hollyood Oscars and Salt Lake City Alpines sets. I've been looking for something like the Hollywood Stars to stick in my universe somewhere, but I didn't want to go with the exact name, for whatever reason. Both of those sets are great.

[darkcloud4579]

Originally Posted by Motorhead667

I think you should include Waterbury and Fall River I think those could be really interesting teams. Just my 2 cent's

Agreed on Fall River. Go Marksmen. Also LOVE that Alpines look. Goes without saying it's going to one of my leagues.

[darkcloud4579]

Originally Posted by knuckler

I really like doing the regional/state leagues and I imagine them starting up in the early to middle part of the 20th Century. I've left off the cities that have MLB teams, but I'm not against including them if it makes more sense. I struggle sometimes with which cities to include - I'd rather have iconic cities than go strictly by population. Burlington is pretty far down the list size-wise, but it seems like a league set in New England should have at least one team from Vermont for instance. This list was the original setup:

Northern League

Auburn-Lewiston
Augusta
Bangor
Burlington
Concord
Manchester
Nashua
Portland

Southern Division

Bridgeport
Hartford
Lowell
New Haven
Providence
Springfield
Stamford
Worcester - (Hearts)

The cities in the Southern Division are quite a bit more populous so maybe they should just be the minor league for the Northern Division. I also feel like I'm leaving off cities that should probably be included like Waterbury and Fall River. Any thoughts or opinions would be really welcome, whether it's a complete setup idea or just a nickname for one of the cities. Thank you in advance for any input.

Here are some Vermont cities I'd offer up

Brattleboro
Northfield
Essex Junction
and even tho it's not in Vermont, Plattsburgh, NY is on the other side of the river from Burlington, VT and so...setting up a possible Ferry Series could be awesome if they were in other divisions.

[Eugene Church]

knuckler,

I'll do some research and try to give you nicknames that relate to each of the towns you listed.

I will also see if there are other towns that you might want to consider.

Do you want it limited to two leagues with 8 teams each?

[Eugene Church]

Just a suggestion... the leagues are based basically on population... Burlington is the aberration... it is really too small population-wise, but you said you wanted a team in Vermont... I agree there should be one team there, even if the other teams have twice the population in the A League.

If you like the concept, I will then research the towns and come up with nicknames that are related to the area... no problem if you don't like the idea... I will still help with the nicknames when you decide on the league concept.

There are 7 teams from Connecticut, 6 from Massachusetts, 4 from Rhode Island, 3 from New Hampshire, 3 from Maine and 1 from Vermont... I didn't pick any towns near Boston.

New England Baseball Alliance

AAA League
Worcester
Providence
Springfield
Bridgeport
New Haven
Hartford
Manchester
Stamford

AA League
Nashua
Lowell
Waterbury
New Bedford
Fall River
Norwalk
Pawtucket
Cranston

A League
Portland
Bangor
Lewiston
Concord
Bristol
New Britain
Warwick
Burlington

[knuckler]

Originally Posted by PW MAX

Maybe it's my vanity kicking in, but I always get a kick out of seeing my name in print like this. I'll have a few more back stories soon as I can, I'm already in the early stages of planning. Might have to straighten my league out a little as well, but we'll see.



One of my favorite team names that I've ever come up with was the Augusta Sea Wolves, (I always picture them with a lighthouse built into their stadium in some way). I have trouble putting them into my main league, as I figure they'd be a little too small a city, (and probably a little too close to the Minutemen of Boston as well), but sometimes I just play the "I want it that way" card and just push through. Lately, thinking about using them as a farm club for the Minutemen, actually. Either way, you said thoughts and opinions were welcome, even if it was just a nickname for one of the cities, so I thought I'd mention it.

On a side note, I almost always prefer to go with iconic cities in my leagues. Even though I was nearly a full 20 years away from being born when Ebbetts Field was demolished, it still feels just... wrong... not to have a team from Brooklyn on the list. If it's a full national league, I mean. Oh, and I absolutely LOVE the Hollyood Oscars and Salt Lake City Alpines sets. I've been looking for something like the Hollywood Stars to stick in my universe somewhere, but I didn't want to go with the exact name, for whatever reason. Both of those sets are great.

Ha, mentioning you is well deserved. I really like reading about fictional leagues and your back stories are always great inspirations for the logos.

I prefer iconic cities as well. It's hard to imagine leaving off Newport, Rhode Island or Mystic, Connecticut even if those aren't the biggest locations. I feel like they should be included, even if it's at the minor league level.

Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

Agreed on Fall River. Go Marksmen. Also LOVE that Alpines look. Goes without saying it's going to one of my leagues.

Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

Here are some Vermont cities I'd offer up

Brattleboro
Northfield
Essex Junction
and even tho it's not in Vermont, Plattsburgh, NY is on the other side of the river from Burlington, VT and so...setting up a possible Ferry Series could be awesome if they were in other divisions.

That's a cool nickname for Fall River and is a big help. I will consider adding Plattsburgh though one of the other leagues I've always wanted to do was either an Upstate New York League or an Adirondacks League.

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

knuckler,

I'll do some research and try to give you nicknames that relate to each of the towns you listed.

I will also see if there are other towns that you might want to consider.

Do you want it limited to two leagues with 8 teams each?

I don't really have any parameters set in stone. I'm happy to get all the suggestions that I can to figure out the best way to make the league work. A lot of the cities will be on everyone's list so I really need help with nicknames more than anything, but I am really appreciative of any suggestions so thanks for the post, EC.

It looks like Bottom of the Sixth is lurking so hopefully he will make a post or two as well. He doesn't really post his leagues much, but he has created some really cool leagues that not many people know about.

[Poweshow]

Every 80 pages or so I post a logo. I am nowhere near as experienced as knuckler or txranger and I have nowhere near the artistic ability or vision as they do. I post pictures, I implore people to critique them and absolutely rip them apart.... so I can get better at this.

This logo is part of a 12-team league (soon to be 14 after I complete logos) that's been running for roughly 5 years so hopefully I post some other stuff to get critiqued in the coming days. Thanks for ANY input, especially negative input (seriously)...

[txranger]

Originally Posted by Poweshow

Every 80 pages or so I post a logo. I am nowhere near as experienced as knuckler or txranger and I have nowhere near the artistic ability or vision as they do. I post pictures, I implore people to critique them and absolutely rip them apart.... so I can get better at this.
This logo is part of a 12-team league (soon to be 14 after I complete logos) that's been running for roughly 5 years so hopefully I post some other stuff to get critiqued in the coming days. Thanks for ANY input, especially negative input (seriously)...

I had my assistant look it over, he gave it a two ears up...

Nice work, no foolin...

[knuckler]

It looks good to me. If I had to make any suggestion, I would say that you could try it without the white. When you have good contrast with the colors that you use (like black and orange), you don't necessarily need the white outline. Sometimes, the white outline makes the brighter color look washed out when it is resized to 150x150. But that is nitpicking as I think the logo looks good.

[Poweshow]

Knuckler, txranger, how do you get your clip art looking so fresh? I mean, they obviously don't come in the exact colors you want but somehow they always blend nicely with your overall scheme and there are no signs of any editing going on. Is there some intricate process you go through to resize and color and add strokes etc? Like, even the above logo takes me like 30 minutes to do if I have an idea of exactly what I want. I imagine something like I did would take you guys all of 5 minutes....

[Poweshow]

No stroke:

[txranger]

Originally Posted by Poweshow

No stroke:

Better imo...

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by Poweshow

No stroke:

Why citizens? it is good looking. did you try breaking the letters when they overlap?

[Motorhead667]

Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

Here are some Vermont cities I'd offer up

Brattleboro
Northfield
Essex Junction
and even tho it's not in Vermont, Plattsburgh, NY is on the other side of the river from Burlington, VT and so...setting up a possible Ferry Series could be awesome if they were in other divisions.

All 4 of those are good, Essex junction especially.

[Poweshow]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Why citizens? it is good looking. did you try breaking the letters when they overlap?

I just try to come up with names that roll off the tongue OR that aren't in use by major league teams. Some teams get grandfathered into my leagues using professional names that I've used since I started playing OOTP (back during OOTP 4)...

So my current league consists of:

Austin Wranglers (Likely facing a rebranding soon... possibly Bantams)
Las Vegas Black Sox (always)
Los Angeles Velets
Portland Beavers (Beavers or Roses is the go to for this city)
Riverside Lancers (Possible rebrand)
Sacramento Dragons (Always)
Salt Lake [City] Saints
San Antonio Sombereros
San Jose Citizens
Scottsdale Indians (Grandfathered in)
Seattle Spartans
Vancouver Sockeyes

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Poweshow

Every 80 pages or so I post a logo. I am nowhere near as experienced as knuckler or txranger and I have nowhere near the artistic ability or vision as they do. I post pictures, I implore people to critique them and absolutely rip them apart.... so I can get better at this.

This logo is part of a 12-team league (soon to be 14 after I complete logos) that's been running for roughly 5 years so hopefully I post some other stuff to get critiqued in the coming days. Thanks for ANY input, especially negative input (seriously)...

Poweshow, this is very well done... excellent colors... good contrast... but knuckler is right... at 300 x 300 the white trim looks good, but when it is cut down to 150 x 150 it hurts the contrast.

I would suggest that you make the "J" look more like a "J"... IMO it would look better if you curved the bottom right portion of the "J" and made it rounded instead of the pointed edge.

It might look better if the "SJ" was intertwined where they intersect.

[knuckler]

Originally Posted by txranger

Better imo...

I think it looks better, too.

Originally Posted by Motorhead667

All 4 of those are good, Essex junction especially.

You guys are supposed to be making it easier, not harder! These are good suggestions, and I really appreciate the suggestions and feedback. The smaller towns almost make me want to scrap the bigger city league and just do a small town association across New England. I will try to do as many as reasonable of the iconic cities. Please keep the suggestions coming, especially of team names. I'd like to name one of the New Hampshire teams the Graniteers and I still like the Worcester Hearts.

Thanks again for all of the feedback.