Would It Be Possible To Include Catobase within OOTP6? - Page 2

Shorty · 03-09-2004, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by treedom
EDIT: ^^^^^ Yee ha!

i can't imagine playing without it...for example, if i forget to backup a league for cato even one year before rolling over...that's it, i scrap it...thankfully, this has only happened once though...

This is the way of death by nearly every one of my solo OOTP leagues. How sad that an add-on dictates that much of it!!

jdettbarn · 03-09-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Dean Gordon
Already sent him the note....

He's in the JOBL too... and I posted a message on the JOBL boards for him. I've seen him on our site this week...

Bonedwarf · 03-09-2004, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by Dean Gordon
For those who don't know what the Catobase is, an example is here. It is, quite simply, a remarkable addition to the game and adds immense value to online leagues....

But, as an outside add-on, extra time and effort is required by the commish or a volunteer to set it up and process it. In-game, this would be simplified.

That's one of the reasons I still use OOTP4. Ryan's DB util. Does pretty much the same thing, but you just feed it the HTML output.

I loved Cato's output, but I just didn't have the patience for it.

Having something like that inbuilt into OOTP, I'd pre-order in a heartbeat.

Ben Music · 03-09-2004, 04:05 PM

By Cato 5.3.0, the process was pretty streamlined and required much less user action than previous versions.

Ryan W. · 03-09-2004, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Bonedwarf
That's one of the reasons I still use OOTP4. Ryan's DB util. Does pretty much the same thing, but you just feed it the HTML output.

I loved Cato's output, but I just didn't have the patience for it.

Having something like that inbuilt into OOTP, I'd pre-order in a heartbeat.

Wow, someone still uses that thing?

I WAS going to update it for OOTP5, but then I started using Cato's utility and it blew mine out of the water. So, I decided my time was best spent on other things.

Knowing Markus, I am willing to bet that he and Cato can work sometime out, if not for release then a patch.

dougaiton · 03-09-2004, 04:21 PM

Thanks to Killebrew's help, the Cato History program has single-handedly revitalised my interest in solo gaming! To put it in so it came as standard for every league would pretty much be the greatest thing of all time.

Qrusher14242 · 03-09-2004, 04:44 PM

I love Cato's utility, but would love to have it built in. So i wouldnt have to do all the exporting. I still get a lot of errors in Cato in historical leagues cause of the changing names and abbreviations.

Neuqua458 · 03-09-2004, 04:48 PM

A feature like this would definetly make me give solo play another try.

jbmagic · 03-09-2004, 04:49 PM

doesnt ootp keep already a history of career leaders for your solo league..

why u need cato?

sixto · 03-09-2004, 04:52 PM

Now I mean, seriously. I don't like to be overly enthusiastic about anything, but adding Cato functionality to the standard OOTP package would be a dream come true.

sporr · 03-09-2004, 05:14 PM

It would sure help all of us who are too lazy to get Cato's utility up and running by ourselves. I've always wanted to try it out, but I've never gotten past procrastinating about getting it set up.

Bluenoser · 03-09-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by jbmagic
doesnt ootp keep already a history of career leaders for your solo league..

why u need cato?

Here's a sample of CATO - http://www.elbb.com/ath/history/index.html

Start clicking on some of the links and see how much more it gives you than a career leaderboard. This is a fantastic utility and would be an awesome addition as part of the game itself.

Dean Gordon · 03-09-2004, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by jbmagic
doesnt ootp keep already a history of career leaders for your solo league..

why u need cato?

Did you look at the example?

Killebrew · 03-09-2004, 05:29 PM

Everyone would win if Markus and Jeff could work on something together for OOTP6. As anyone who has used it knows, OOTP History is a tremendous add-on for online players and solo players alike.

Chappy · 03-09-2004, 06:12 PM

Without a doubt it is the best... utility... ever...

With the schedule generator scoring a close second.

treedom · 03-09-2004, 06:16 PM

with appologies to BruceM, here's a link to my favourite sections of Cato from his example...

team position history:
http://www.elbb.com/ath/history/teams/ari/pos.html

team pitcher history:
http://www.elbb.com/ath/history/teams/ari/starters.html

team leaders:
http://www.elbb.com/ath/history/team...atleaders.html

all you doubters, check out at least that first link...you can't find that anywhere in the standard reports...awesome!

Ragnar · 03-09-2004, 06:22 PM

I thought you could get to these stats anyway. I guess Cato makes it alot easier? I'll take your words on it since everyone seems to be excited.

Dean Gordon · 03-09-2004, 06:28 PM

its not just a few extra stats... tons and tons of extra stuff...

Mr.Opinion · 03-09-2004, 06:40 PM

Hey, this is a stupid question, but how do I use Cato for solo leagues? I don't have to upload to the web, correct?

John C · 03-09-2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Ryan W.
Wow, someone still uses that thing?

I WAS going to update it for OOTP5, but then I started using Cato's utility and it blew mine out of the water. So, I decided my time was best spent on other things.

Knowing Markus, I am willing to bet that he and Cato can work sometime out, if not for release then a patch.

See, and I've been patiently waiting for you to update it for my ABL... ; )

03-09-2004, 04:05 PM	#24
Ben Music Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 432	By Cato 5.3.0, the process was pretty streamlined and required much less user action than previous versions. __________________

03-09-2004, 04:21 PM	#26
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	Thanks to Killebrew's help, the Cato History program has single-handedly revitalised my interest in solo gaming! To put it in so it came as standard for every league would pretty much be the greatest thing of all time. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

03-09-2004, 04:44 PM	#27
Qrusher14242 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: CA Posts: 1,253	I love Cato's utility, but would love to have it built in. So i wouldnt have to do all the exporting. I still get a lot of errors in Cato in historical leagues cause of the changing names and abbreviations. __________________ "Go then, there are other worlds than these"

03-09-2004, 04:48 PM	#28
Neuqua458 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 33	A feature like this would definetly make me give solo play another try. __________________ RWBL Chicago Cubs JBL Nippon Ham Fighters BL2 Tampa Bay Devil Rays

03-09-2004, 06:12 PM	#35
Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	Without a doubt it is the best... utility... ever... With the schedule generator scoring a close second. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals

03-09-2004, 04:49 PM	#29
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	doesnt ootp keep already a history of career leaders for your solo league.. why u need cato?

03-09-2004, 04:52 PM	#30
sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,277	Now I mean, seriously. I don't like to be overly enthusiastic about anything, but adding Cato functionality to the standard OOTP package would be a dream come true.

03-09-2004, 05:14 PM	#31
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	It would sure help all of us who are too lazy to get Cato's utility up and running by ourselves. I've always wanted to try it out, but I've never gotten past procrastinating about getting it set up.

03-09-2004, 05:29 PM	#34
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	Everyone would win if Markus and Jeff could work on something together for OOTP6. As anyone who has used it knows, OOTP History is a tremendous add-on for online players and solo players alike.

03-09-2004, 06:16 PM	#36
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	with appologies to BruceM, here's a link to my favourite sections of Cato from his example... team position history: http://www.elbb.com/ath/history/teams/ari/pos.html team pitcher history: http://www.elbb.com/ath/history/teams/ari/starters.html team leaders: http://www.elbb.com/ath/history/team...atleaders.html all you doubters, check out at least that first link...you can't find that anywhere in the standard reports...awesome! __________________ A rake and a roustabout. Last edited by treedom; 03-09-2004 at 06:19 PM.

03-09-2004, 06:22 PM	#37
Ragnar Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,674	I thought you could get to these stats anyway. I guess Cato makes it alot easier? I'll take your words on it since everyone seems to be excited.

03-09-2004, 06:28 PM	#38
Dean Gordon Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 354	its not just a few extra stats... tons and tons of extra stuff...

03-09-2004, 06:40 PM	#39
Mr.Opinion All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: SkiFree Lodge Posts: 883	Hey, this is a stupid question, but how do I use Cato for solo leagues? I don't have to upload to the web, correct? __________________