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Old 10-14-2003, 11:49 PM   #21
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Alright, didn't mean to jump out on you.

And your points that you showed were correct. Maybe what I could do is just have me sim. So no one will have to worry about him cheating.
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:55 PM   #22
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All we can say is that anyone who feels they want to be in a great league then sign up, take a chance, it will be worth it, nobody seems to remember how well the league went along before all the accusations.
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:59 PM   #23
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Fitterer having any type of authority in a league is bad publicity. This league will have a hard time finding good owners with Fitterer's reputation.
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:05 AM   #24
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how many times do i have to prove you ignorant people wrong, this league will succeed. Period
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Old 10-15-2003, 08:11 AM   #25
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Anybody else notice that Mfitterer1 and BigWillis are both from Beaverton OR...and they seem to post within minutes of themselves?

Just an observation.
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Old 10-15-2003, 09:06 AM   #26
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Anybody else notice that Mfitterer1 and BigWillis are both from Beaverton OR...and they seem to post within minutes of themselves?

Just an observation.
Sorry, but if BigWillis and Mfitterer were the same person, I doubt Willis would have gone through the trouble of "starting" the league with Fitterer .. especially with his reputation.

With all the scrutiny being placed on Fitterer, it will be interesting to see if this league can succeed. There is no "fool proof" way to know that the commish is cheating, and maybe Willis starting off doing the sims is the right way to go. Nothing against Fitterer, but with his reputation, and with the posts he's put in this forum, a slowly but surely approach back to respectability might be the way to go.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the league!
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Old 10-15-2003, 11:02 AM   #27
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Anybody else notice that Mfitterer1 and BigWillis are both from Beaverton OR...and they seem to post within minutes of themselves?

Just an observation.
Actually in one of the threads I posted earlier BigWillis says something about knowing mfitterer in person.

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Old 10-15-2003, 11:06 AM   #28
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how many times do i have to prove you ignorant people wrong, this league will succeed. Period
mfitterer,

It is statements like this that turn people off from wanting to believe you and support your new endeavor. I know things can be frustrating, but you are better off with a "turn the other cheek" approach until you have reestablished your reputation within the community.

I do hope that all goes well with your new league.
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Old 10-15-2003, 11:49 AM   #29
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Sorry, but if BigWillis and Mfitterer were the same person, I doubt Willis would have gone through the trouble of "starting" the league with Fitterer .. especially with his reputation.
(spooky organ music)Or is that what he/they want us to think?(/spooky organ music)
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Old 10-15-2003, 11:57 AM   #30
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lol, hahahaha me and big willis are not the same person at all. We are friends that go to school together, thats how we know each other, pretty funny people trying to make us out to be the same person.
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:34 PM   #31
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lol, hahahaha me and big willis are not the same person at all. We are friends that go to school together, thats how we know each other, pretty funny people trying to make us out to be the same person.
funny: haha? or funny: weird?
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:36 PM   #32
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lol, hahahaha me and big willis are not the same person at all. We are friends that go to school together, thats how we know each other, pretty funny people trying to make us out to be the same person.
Speaking of which, why aren't you in school now?
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:41 PM   #33
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Is it just me, or would it be in mfitter's best intrest to create a new name, and act liek he is new to the boards, and OOTP, and JOIN (not create) a league that way. It would remove the constant scrutiny he is under, and allow him a chance to prove that he is legit...

After his "new name" has established itself, he could then create a league with Big Willis, and get the Commish aspect of the game as well....
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:48 PM   #34
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mfitterer is best deserving of the kind of banning that Pete Rose got. He probably shouldn't be anywhere NEAR being commissioner of a league until he has established himself as an owner.
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:22 PM   #35
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lol well isnt this turning into an interesting thread.....
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:29 PM   #36
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I care about the cheating but there is a bigger issue here.

They want to contract Baltimore? That'a crap, MAAAAAAAN!

Oh yeah...uh...


CHEATER ALERT!!!!
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:29 PM   #37
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Really? I was getting rather bored with it.

If people read this and choose to join they will at least be making an informed decision. I'm sure we would find out soon enough if any shady dealings were happening.
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Old 10-15-2003, 02:32 PM   #38
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I'm in the league, and I personally know "Mfitterer1" I used to work with him and he goes to my school. No one has every trusted this kid, and I've suspected him of cheating since day 1 that his sim started. The league just never listened to me. Than I get this offer for Pujols- Piniero, Nevin and Cordero for him. I was schocked when I checked out Piniero and Cordero's page, and than Nevin blew me away. Hes obviously been cheating since this started.

The night when he was simming playoffs it took him an hour and a half to get it done, when the whole time he was telling me he was "resigning contracts."

Basically... I should have won that world series, and he cheated!

Cheaters... psh.
I can't honestly believe that you would go in on a league with him, BW. The fact that you know that he cheated you out of a World Series title and you're still willing to let him near your league is puzzling IMO.
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Old 10-15-2003, 04:47 PM   #39
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I understand. But that was when I was pissed.

The thing is... Fitterer is NOT simming any games, hes helping with the website and gm's.

I will sim games. So if anything comes up, it will be on me. Not him.
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Old 10-15-2003, 10:17 PM   #40
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how come you guys dont have anything to say to that? thats what i thought, and btw i am in school
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