25% Discount

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by uruguru

It's not like most games where the entire game is rewritten from the ground up with every release so it can be a crazy grab bag of bugs and features gone that you used to have.

What games are entirely rewritten every year? I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I can't think of any.

[AESP_pres]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

What games are entirely rewritten every year? I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I can't think of any.

Not every years but each version of Final Fantasy is different than one another... at least until FF12 who was the last one I bought (I don't play game on console anymore).

[Marinersfan51]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

What games are entirely rewritten every year? I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I can't think of any.

I don't think anything that releases annually is, but I think some games that only release new versions every few years are. Stuff like Fallout, Civilization, or GTA.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by Marinersfan51

I don't think anything that releases annually is, but I think some games that only release new versions every few years are. Stuff like Fallout, Civilization, or GTA.

Yes, I know those games are rewritten. The person I quoted specifically said yearly because that's how OOTP is released. I'm curious what games that are released yearly are completely rewritten.

[AESP_pres]

If we talk every years I highly doubt one is since most games with yearly release are sport game and they usually keep the same format years after years after years... seriously when was the last time you have seen an EASport game not being the same game than the last with only a new rooster?

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by low

Have you seen the cost of living in this capitalistic hellscape that is the US these days?

Originally Posted by Braden

It seems to me that good, detailed in-house testing would alleviate most of those type problems. I understand that it takes $ resources to that and that is probably why it doesn't get done.

Maybe he should have put as much thought into his purchase decision as he did to this post and waited?

If a gamer doesn't understand the release, patch world we live in by now, I don't know what to say to help them.

If $4 is a difference maker in one's life, and there has been times in mine where it was, than I would think one would be even more careful when deciding how and when to spend. I know I was.

[jeffw3000]

Originally Posted by wallewalls

This sale is happening because of a Steam Sports event, and OOTP is simply participating in it. Not really something to read too much into.

That is correct. I always buy during the pre-sale, but I usually wait until about 1 month to start a current league, because like to give time for the updating of the ratings and rosters. Usually it does not go on sale this cheap when I start my current league. This year I should have waited until I started my league. I knew when I saw that Steam was going to have their Sports sale I would probably wished I waited. All I know is I was waiting for FHM9 to go on sale for the playoffs, and it did not, so they could put it on sale to correspond with the Steam sports sale. Now it is $19.99, and I am going to pick it up during the sale.

[AESP_pres]

Originally Posted by jeffw3000

I was waiting for FHM9 to go on sale for the playoffs, and it did not, so they could put it on sale to correspond with the Steam sports sale. Now it is $19.99, and I am going to pick it up during the sale.

I bought it full price (kind of since I got a rebate because I have OOTP24) two weeks ago because I thought the special would be after the Stanley Cup and I didn't want to wait

BTW logic was respected in my simulation since Boston won it...

[rudel.dietrich]

I am not predicting it. But it would not shock me to see this franchise go free to play in the not so distant future and use the OOTP Go model.

Let’s say $20 for the current MLB season.
$5 for any historical season you want.
$40 for every historical season.

The FTP game gives you maybe two historical seasons and fictional play.

The idea is to get more people to just download and play the game and hopefully begin playing PT.


I could be very wrong and we will never see this.
But as I said before, I would also not be shocked to see them move to this model since PT has to be the main revenue driver at this point.

They will never reveal it, and they are under no obligation to do so.
But I have to wonder what the revenue split is between PT and actual sales of the game.

I wonder if it has hit 75/25 yet in favor of PT.
Maybe more?
Perhaps less

[low]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

I am not predicting it. But it would not shock me to see this franchise go free to play in the not so distant future and use the OOTP Go model.

Let’s say $20 for the current MLB season.
$5 for any historical season you want.
$40 for every historical season.

The FTP game gives you maybe two historical seasons and fictional play.

The idea is to get more people to just download and play the game and hopefully begin playing PT.


I could be very wrong and we will never see this.
But as I said before, I would also not be shocked to see them move to this model since PT has to be the main revenue driver at this point.

They will never reveal it, and they are under no obligation to do so.
But I have to wonder what the revenue split is between PT and actual sales of the game.

I wonder if it was hit 75/25 yet in favor of PT.
Maybe more?
Perhaps less

Gross.

[andyhdz]

Originally Posted by Braden

I got the new discount notice. It is now cheaper than the $4.00 discount I got for pre-order which, of course, was a waste of money as the game wasn't ready for over a month after it was released.


I probably should wait for the OOTP 25 fire sale if/when I decide to buy it.



Are you having a hard time selling this now?

yes maybe if you work hard and put some OT in you'll get back that whopping $35 you wasted.

[andyhdz]

Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

Half this forum is people crying about something that isn't worth crying about.

quote of the year.

[Ty Cobb]

allow me to comfort you with a picture of expensive cheese to go with your post.

[Cod]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

I am not predicting it. But it would not shock me to see this franchise go free to play in the not so distant future and use the OOTP Go model.

Let’s say $20 for the current MLB season.
$5 for any historical season you want.
$40 for every historical season.

The FTP game gives you maybe two historical seasons and fictional play.

The idea is to get more people to just download and play the game and hopefully begin playing PT.

A move like this would have very little to do with PT in my opinion. The pricing model you mentioned is the exact model used by nearly every baseball replay game other than Digital Diamond. Strat, ActionPC, Diamond Mind, etc. all charge you ~$49 for the base game and a handful of seasons. Then you end up paying ~$15 per season (or less if you wait for sales).

Y'all are going to end up with ulcers worrying about the future of something you have zero control over like this. Live in the present, enjoy the game the way you want to enjoy it, and have fun! If you're unable to have fun with the game, then move on to something that makes you happy.

[Mat]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

I am not predicting it. But it would not shock me to see this franchise go free to play in the not so distant future and use the OOTP Go model.

Let’s say $20 for the current MLB season.
$5 for any historical season you want.
$40 for every historical season.

The FTP game gives you maybe two historical seasons and fictional play.

The idea is to get more people to just download and play the game and hopefully begin playing PT.

I could be very wrong and we will never see this.
But as I said before, I would also not be shocked to see them move to this model since PT has to be the main revenue driver at this point.

They will never reveal it, and they are under no obligation to do so.
But I have to wonder what the revenue split is between PT and actual sales of the game.

I wonder if it has hit 75/25 yet in favor of PT.
Maybe more?
Perhaps less

lol

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

$40 for every historical season.

This would be business suicide.

[jcard]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

This would be business suicide.

That would be less than 30 cents per season. The biggest potential problem I see with such a model is people objecting to paying $5 annually to get the most recent historic season. Of course, given how many people are willing to rationalize spending $40 every year for what they are currently getting on a yearly basis, some might find those objections dubious.

[jcard]

Originally Posted by Mat

lol

Why are you mocking that post? While prices and specifics are open to debate, the hypothetical model presented is entirely reasonable in its generalities. As for the underlying reason for such a proposal is not itself theoretical; the paradigm shift is a fact. The only thing preventing a new purchase structure such as the proposed that is more appropriate to the new business operating priorities is that there are still enough people in denial about, oblivious to, or apathetic toward the marginal cost / benefit reality of annually purchasing the game. Maybe THAT would be a better target for derision.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Cod

Y'all are going to end up with ulcers worrying about the future of something you have zero control over like this. Live in the present, enjoy the game the way you want to enjoy it, and have fun! If you're unable to have fun with the game, then move on to something that makes you happy.

Bingo.

Every year the end of OOTP is predicted. It was "the end" when OOTP went to DIPS and removed clutch and, every year since the developers have done something to offend someone's opinion on how the game must progress to avoid said "ending of a good thing". Someday someone will be right and be able to say "I told you so". Every year some users say, me included, if this was to be the last version I could play it forever, or until something comes along that surpasses it. Either way I win.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by jcard

That would be less than 30 cents per season. The biggest potential problem I see with such a model is people objecting to paying $5 annually to get the most recent historic season. Of course, given how many people are willing to rationalize spending $40 every year for what they are currently getting on a yearly basis, some might find those objections dubious.

I took it to mean $40 per season. If the person who posted it meant for all seasons, then I take back my "business suicide" comment. But it would still piss off a lot of people. Charging that much for a major feature that's been free since OOTP first came out would not go over well.