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I actually tried this again over the weekend. Started in 1976. Erased all stats and simmed the 76 season. Before the offseason draft, I checked the leagues career leaderboard. Davey Johnson led in almost every offensive category. Sure enough, in real life, Davey Johnson didn't play in 1976 and returned to action in 1977. When he returned, he had all his stats from 1965-1975. I would give anything if I could find a way to make erasing all stats work, but I just can't seem to find it. Last edited by David Watts; 03-15-2021 at 07:45 AM. |
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Are you using import full history? My experience is that if you do you'll get the players who played (example) before 1980 and after 1980 but not in 1980 as FAs and the erase function will erase their stats. Note my experience doing this consists only of my current game.
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Import full history then erase seemed to work for me.
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Here it is. Created 1980 with full history. Erased all history. Simmed the 1980 season, till the end of the playoffs. This screen shot is from October 24th 1980. It's the Jerry Grote Show.
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Start 1980
Import entire league history Erase all career stats of all players Erase the entire league history It works as I've described. I don't know what you're doing differently. |
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I will try it again when I get home from work. In my example above, I erased all history and checked to see if players had any stats history. Did not see any. But, I will give the erase all career stats of players a shot. I so want this to work.
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Okay, I figured out how to start in 1980, erase stats, erase history and get through the first season without the Jerry Grote problem I displayed above. Did so by scheduling a inaugural draft and making sure every single player was drafted. Problem is, when I played out 1981, I ended up with the Steve Braun problem in the screenshot.
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Don't know. If you go to Braun's hitting stats in the game does it show stats prior to 1980? I'd think it would. Does anyone else?
I ran 1981 in the test game I set up. No pre 1980 shows up in career leaders. |
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The strange thing is, in the above example, I simply deleted Braun altogether following the 81 season. This removed him completely from the leagues leaderboard. He had no history and no stats, so deleting him was not a problem I then simmed 1982. Somehow Braun was back again in his full career statistical glory once the offseason began. I give up. I will just use random debut for my fictional/historical setups. |
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In my league Braun played MLB and AAA in 1980, AAA in 1981.
" Strange thing is, Braun never missed a season, so I have no clue why he would be showing up like he is." Did he perhaps retire and unretire? Other than that I'm thinking that its an isolated data error where the erase career didn't work with him. Maybe we need to press the button twice!!! I occasionally checked the career stats in my current league during play and don't remember anything like this. I saved backups of many of the early years. Would you like me to check them to make sure I am getting different results? The only procedural thing I see different is I started with players on historical teams and manually assigned free agents to appropriate teams. Last edited by Brad K; 03-18-2021 at 02:42 PM. |
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Yes, I use AAA and AA.
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I am very glad it has worked for you. I never would have thought having minor leagues was the final missing piece. Good catch.
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Started my first league using this procedure over the weekend.
Started this league in 1947. Here is the setup so far. American League Baltimore Boston Chicago Cleveland Detroit New York National League Brooklyn Chicago Cincinnati Philadelphia Pittsburgh St. Louis Using a 156 game schedule that includes interleague play. Not the biggest fan of interleague play, but using it will allow me to expand by 2's(1 team per Subleague) which I find so much easier than expanding by 4 or dealing with finding schedules for subleagues that don't have the same number of teams. Two levels of minors AAA and AA. Wondering if I should have added A too, but that's water under the bridge now. The minor league teams play identical schedules to the major leagues. I don't believe in September callups, so this isn't a problem. Before starting play, I released all players and held a fantasy draft. Have you ever noticed how Ted Williams almost always ends up in New York when you do this? I'm using free agency for this league as well. 5 year recalc with Garlon's make bad settings 167/67 17/14. If I can keep this going, I plan on expanding on a regular basis, but I will always keep my league smaller than that of the real MLB at the time. Kind of want to see what guys on the fringe have shorter MLB careers or never get out of the minors altogether. |
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It's the settings on the very bottom of the first page of the historical setup wizard. I call them the make bad settings, because they are the settings put in place so guys that got barely a cup a coffee in the bigs don't end up benefitting from lack of playing time. In other words they make sure a guy that went 6-15 over the course of a season doesn't hit .400. In a couple different threads Garlon has said 167/67 and 17/14 will work great for 5 year recalc.
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