Pitcher Injuries

[Thomidor]

Unfortunately it continues!!! UGH!!!! Lost two pitchers in the next three games, and then I lose John Gray on baserunning... WTH... I have one guy on my staff now that was on starting day roster. UGH!!!! This is not helping my 11 game losing streak....

[ohiodevil]

Originally Posted by Thomidor

Unfortunately it continues!!! UGH!!!! Lost two pitchers in the next three games, and then I lose John Gray on baserunning... WTH... I have one guy on my staff now that was on starting day roster. UGH!!!! This is not helping my 11 game losing streak....

It happens and teaches you to build depth so you have guys to go to in case of injury. I have had seasons where I only have minor injuries to my starters, then I have other seasons where I get wrecked with injuries....happens in real life. In my solo league as the Indians I felt like I was recreating the 2016 World Series run.

I finally got back to the playoffs after missing them the last two seasons and in the last game of the year I lost my #3 starter for 2 months, then in the ALDS I lost my #4 starter and closer in back to back games. Won the ALDS 3-1 and the ALCS 4-1 but lost the World Series 4-2 to the Braves.

[Biggio509]

Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

Thomidor- you will also want to look at the injury proneness ratings for your staff. Fragile pitchers are an invitation for disaster. (Wrecked? Well, don't even go near that.) Now having said that, not all Fragile pitchers are the same and on my team our current Captain is a fragile left-handed starting pitcher who is pretty good and who, while often being injured, is prone mostly thus far to very short-term (often day-to-day) injuries that aren't arm related. But if you are worried about injuries on your pitching staff then you would be wise to focus on finding Durable or even Iron Man pitchers.

Something I haven't really tried but might help. Have you tried pitch counts for starters who are more fragile and use less often for a good but injury prone reliever? I wouldn't want a whole staff of fragile guys but if I had one I am thinking this could help.

That being said I agree I avoid the fragile types. When it is someone coming up in your minors you know they have been on the IL a lot if you manage minor league promotions and injury list. I had a pretty good rated pitcher who did well when healthy come up for rookie to majors. He could have been my number 2 but I knew I needed a backup plan for him. He spent a lot of time on the DL and it was no different when I called him up. Unless they are really good prospects I get rid of the fragile guys in the minors or try to trade them if they are good enough prospects.

I tend to look at injury history of anyone I sign as a FA. Maybe there are wrecked yet but a long list of injuries will let you know they will be. It depends on type too, I can deal with a guy with a lot of short injuries better than a guy with injuries with a month or more on the DL.

[Biggio509]

Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

Yes, just to echo what so many others have said:

1) Settings. The great thing about OOTP, unlike real life, is you get to play god and can dial this way, way down (or just get rid of injuries, entirely).

2) Real life. Baseball pitchers get injured. All. The. Time. Most OOTP settings that people use don't actually reflect that well, because, well, who wants to deal with reality? But seriously: pitchers, injuries- these two were made for each other.

I might add player and roster management. Sometimes it is better to send a backup fielder down for a bit while you add an extra pitcher. I think part of the problem is it isn't uncommon to see all your relievers in yellow with a 25 man roster. Fatigued players are more likely to get injured. So for a 26 man roster the extra player you would have added should be a pitcher to help with fatigue.

I typically carry 5 outfielders, 6 infielders, and 2 catchers on my roster that leaves 13 pitchers. I was looking through real major league and minor league rosters they tended to carry 13 pitchers with a 25 man roster and typically more like 4 OFs. I think this might be good for the game. They see the same we see in OOTP position players don't get hurt as much. So a little heavier on pitchers spreads the load a bit meaning less fatigued guys pitching and less injury chance.

Basic roster management affects this. You will notice often it is relievers getting injured the most. I think that might be directly related to me carrying less relievers than the MLB typically does. It should be noted with the new roster limit there was a max number of pitchers not fielders. Teams want to carry as many pitchers as possible these days. The high injury of pitchers is realistic.

[Thomidor]

Originally Posted by Biggio509

Something I haven't really tried but might help. Have you tried pitch counts for starters who are more fragile and use less often for a good but injury prone reliever? I wouldn't want a whole staff of fragile guys but if I had one I am thinking this could help.

That being said I agree I avoid the fragile types. When it is someone coming up in your minors you know they have been on the IL a lot if you manage minor league promotions and injury list. I had a pretty good rated pitcher who did well when healthy come up for rookie to majors. He could have been my number 2 but I knew I needed a backup plan for him. He spent a lot of time on the DL and it was no different when I called him up. Unless they are really good prospects I get rid of the fragile guys in the minors or try to trade them if they are good enough prospects.

I tend to look at injury history of anyone I sign as a FA. Maybe there are wrecked yet but a long list of injuries will let you know they will be. It depends on type too, I can deal with a guy with a lot of short injuries better than a guy with injuries with a month or more on the DL.

I have been studying and learning a lot. I do tend to avoid the fragile guys and draft or trade I ALWAYS check injury status. The weirdest part is I lose all my pitchers early in the games. Usually in the first couple innings when they are fully rested going into the game.

On a HIGH NOTE! my perseverance has paid off... Broke my 11 game losing streak with a kid I brought up from Albuquerque. Scored a 15 - 8 win over the Diamondbacks.