Bagwell at 2B/3B?

[chazzycat]

Training gives players more options to be creative with their decision making. That's it. That's the entire reason it's good. Want to go for all defense? Sure train up some CF and SS across the other positions. But then your offense is gonna struggle. But the point is, you have freedom to try it. That's a good thing. The more variety allowed, the better.

Aren't there like a million threads complaining about how all teams look the same?

I don't understand how this "training is bad" idea gets ANY traction whatsoever on these same forums that constantly demand more variety and choices.

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by chazzycat

Training gives players more options to be creative with their decision making. That's it. That's the entire reason it's good. Want to go for all defense? Sure train up some CF and SS across the other positions. But then your offense is gonna struggle. But the point is, you have freedom to try it. That's a good thing. The more variety allowed, the better.

Aren't there like a million threads complaining about how all teams look the same?

I don't understand how this "training is bad" idea gets ANY traction whatsoever on these same forums that constantly demand more variety and choices.

They look the same this year because of the SE cards.

[Syd Thrift]

No, they look the same because the Live cards are completely static this year.

[chazzycat]

Originally Posted by DonMattingly

They look the same this year because of the SE cards.

So? Regardless of the reason, isn't the complaint generally centered around lack of variety?

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by chazzycat

So? Regardless of the reason, isn't the complaint generally centered around lack of variety?

There are also complaints about realism. You can have both realism and variety without way-too-common SE cards and without training.

Make a lot of cards for many different players and from different years in their careers. Offer packs as rewards instead of SE cards.

Both problems solved. You've got lots of choices and they are all historically realistic. And lots of lotto tickets to boot.

[Syd Thrift]

You really can’t get “realism” by having Sandy Koufax start against Randy Johnson one game and Walter Johnson the next. It’s all fantasy ball, and that’s one big reason why this cry of “realism” sounds so silly to me. You may as well be arguing about orc mating habits in Lord of the Rings...

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

You really can’t get “realism” by having Sandy Koufax start against Randy Johnson one game and Walter Johnson the next. It’s all fantasy ball, and that’s one big reason why this cry of “realism” sounds so silly to me. You may as well be arguing about orc mating habits in Lord of the Rings...

You can narrow down the realism issue to trying to account for different eras. The players and their stats and eras are quite real, unlike orcs.

The orcs in PT are the cards that are based on an algorithm that never happened in any real season of baseball. They're "grown" quite like the Uruk-hai were.

And I think there's a clear understanding from LOTR that the Uruk-hai were the most prolific breeders among the orcs. No other tribe could match their virility. Polls of lady orcs always rated them as the most coveted mates.

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

No, they look the same because the Live cards are completely static this year.

For the most part, once you've been past Gold (now Silver) in PT, the Live cards aren't used much anyway. I don't see that much has changed this year. Lives aren't nearly as good rating wise compared to non-lives. It seems they are compared to each other in their overall rating and not to baseball history as a whole. Most Live perfects are inferior to many historical Diamonds, whether they're changing or static.

The mission rewards have never been so good and so attainable and it's flooded rosters with those cards. It's also flooded the AH with high quality cards that sell for much less than any other type of comparable effectiveness because of the high supply.

[sanjiwatsuki]

If anyone is curious, I actually did train up Bagwell at 3B and play him there for two seasons.



If you're in a lower league and are desperate to shove Bagwell in your lineup but have elite hitters at 1B and DH, I guess it's not the WORST idea in the world to play him at 3B.

But I don't really recommend it

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by Orcin

This is the biggest single thing that could be done to improve the game mode.




And the peak cards should be able to play every position that the player did in his career at the competency level that he played it.

Nothing like Roger Hornsby that couldn't catch Covid-19

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by DonMattingly

For the most part, once you've been past Gold (now Silver) in PT, the Live cards aren't used much anyway. I don't see that much has changed this year. Lives aren't nearly as good rating wise compared to non-lives. It seems they are compared to each other in their overall rating and not to baseball history as a whole. Most Live perfects are inferior to many historical Diamonds, whether they're changing or static.

The mission rewards have never been so good and so attainable and it's flooded rosters with those cards. It's also flooded the AH with high quality cards that sell for much less than any other type of comparable effectiveness because of the high supply.

I own zero lives on 2 teams & lives only with my White Sox players only team. I can barely win in Silver...OOTP gives the pitching zero respect....The highest Ed Cicotte card is 91 & is pure junk thru every league..non winner period... a waste to purchase

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers

I own zero lives on 2 teams & lives only with my White Sox players only team. I can barely win in Silver...OOTP gives the pitching zero respect....The highest Ed Cicotte card is 91 & is pure junk thru every league..non winner period... a waste to purchase

I've got 0 Lives on any of my 3 teams active rosters. I will have to go and clean up my tournament rosters though once the ML season starts, think I have a bunch on my Iron and Bronze tournament teams.

So far one of my teams made it through Silver 2 weeks ago, narrowly lost the championship series there, but they put up a sub .500 record in their first week in Gold. Seems they can stick there but it might be a few weeks before they are playoff worthy.

My other two teams both hit Silver last week for the first time but neither made the playoffs, they were both close to .500. One I think is ready to compete for the playoffs this week, the other may be a week or two away. I think the one that might compete now may be better than my Gold team.

I'm transitioning them out of the all-power, all-out offense teams they were in the lower levels, which I did to try to earn more PP, in to more balanced and better defensive teams. I also toned down my park effects for this week. I think I'll get a better idea of what I really have pitching wise now.

Have noticed that any pitchers with low CON ratings are becoming unusable, and low AvoidK guys are getting owned. It kinda sucks the AH went so crazy, it's making it harder to transition to new players. But it's also giving me a chance to see which cards I have might have spiked up in value and I'm selling some off and will hold the PP until either things settle down in general or if I can find some good deals even now in the middle of the AH madness.

I think Diamond will be like the previous edition's Perfect for me, I expect as a F2P player to eventually have teams that can stick there and sometimes make the playoffs, but that's about it. I don't ever see any of my teams winning a Perfect title, was able to win 3 in PT 20 (with a lot of luck).