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Old 03-02-2016, 09:22 AM   #21
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WPA stands for win probability added.

Y-axis is % chance to win the game. Middle horizontal means 50:50 even chance. All the way down means 100% chance one team wins. All the way up means 100% chance the other team wins.

X-axis is time through the game (often presented in innings). Each play is another dot on the graph that calculates a new % chance of winning. All the way to the right is the end of the game.

Another way to look at it is the largest movements on the graphs are the most important plays of the game.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:30 AM   #22
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It's probably better described as a "win expectancy graph," but as soon as I started playing around with the recaps, I thought it would be a very cool thing to add in to the game. Turned out pretty decently too, I think.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:31 AM   #23
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Very Cool! Nice job, Matt!

I did notice that the recap had Springer at 3B but he's listed as RF in the lineup though.
This is already fixed in the latest version of the database.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:34 AM   #24
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WPA stands for win probability added.

Y-axis is % chance to win the game. Middle horizontal means 50:50 even chance. All the way down means 100% chance one team wins. All the way up means 100% chance the other team wins.

X-axis is time through the game (often presented in innings). Each play is another dot on the graph that calculates a new % chance of winning. All the way to the right is the end of the game.

Another way to look at it is the largest movements on the graphs are the most important plays of the game.
I guess the only thing missing is a label of which team is top half and bottom half of the graph. Yes, I can figure it out from looking at the score, but that's how I've seen it done before.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:37 AM   #25
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Wow. This is absolutely awesome. Great job guys!
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:41 AM   #26
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It's probably better described as a "win expectancy graph," but as soon as I started playing around with the recaps, I thought it would be a very cool thing to add in to the game. Turned out pretty decently too, I think.
Yeah, I guess you are right. That's what fangraphs calls it.

Link: Win Expectancy | FanGraphs Sabermetrics Library

Agree with the point about adding some notation of which team is top and which team is bottom. Maybe a subtle team color shading also?
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Alright, this is pretty darn cool. Well done!
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:54 AM   #28
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Alright folks educate this victim of the stone age on what a WPA graph is. Hoping I'm not the only one that has no clue UGH!
TribeFanInNC did an awesome job. I'll just add that if you look at individual players' stats, the higher the WPA, the more a player has contributed to his team's wins relatively speaking. A player's WPA looks at how many times he's pushed his team towards a victory (+WPA), and how many times he's pushed his team towards a defeat (-WPA). Add the two together, and you get each player's individual WPA.
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:27 AM   #29
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This does look great!

Question for the devs... not previously having the recap feature, I've gotten in the habit of doing my own recaps for certain "special" games - a comeback of this nature could qualify. Are we able to edit the auto-generated recaps to provide our own "color", if you will?

Looking forward to OOTP17!
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:44 AM   #30
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Great work, Matt! Awesome!
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 03-02-2016, 10:46 AM   #31
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This does look great!

Question for the devs... not previously having the recap feature, I've gotten in the habit of doing my own recaps for certain "special" games - a comeback of this nature could qualify. Are we able to edit the auto-generated recaps to provide our own "color", if you will?
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
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I would also like to request clear team labels or colors.
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I would also like to request clear team labels or colors.
Matt did that yesterday
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Matt did that yesterday
Pics or it didn't happen?
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Thanks! Can he do mass select for coaches and personnel tomorrow?
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Thanks! Can he do mass select for coaches and personnel tomorrow?
Ah come one, there has to me something in the game that is a PITA.
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Ah come one, there has to me something in the game that is a PITA.
Truth. And that's it.

You got me, Markus.
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Ah come one, there has to me something in the game that is a PITA.
a PITA? What do you mean my former company XO (military) is in the game???

Still don't like that "sweet old boy."
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Amazing feature! Love the graphs!
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This is awesome. Sold me on pre-ordering.
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