TotalMinors For OOTP5: Beta Version Released - Page 2

X ny mets 2003 x · 02-28-2003, 04:02 PM

guys.. help please

Rowleyball · 02-28-2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by X ny mets 2003 x
how do i sart a league with these rosters?

Check Spleen's post earlier in the thread. He outlines it pretty well.

Erich Ingram · 02-28-2003, 04:08 PM

a couple of ways of doing it. You can copy all of the information into your create file and then that will be what you use every time you start a standard league or you could put them in a league folder and start a season right away with them. Until Gregg has a chance to do some work on the schedule you will have to correct the start date of the schedule I believe to 3/25 instead of 4/1 since the schedule starts earlier this year.

Tiger Fan · 02-28-2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by GForce22
thanks guys. TigerFan will be doing a facepack I believe. Any delay there is on me, because I forgot to e-mail him the player list.

GH

Going thru it now to add any missing players and will try and have a facepack ready by Saturday night.

Neuqua458 · 02-28-2003, 04:59 PM

Is there a timetable for the finished version of the Total Minors set to be released?

Neuqua

SunDevil · 02-28-2003, 05:44 PM

Neuqua458,

Geforce lays out the timetable in the readme file he provides. But here it is.

Any players on the 40-man roster not in this set (V1: Target Date Sunday, March 9)
More major leaguer adjustments (my stats, split adjusted) (constant)
Any players in Baseball America’s top 30 prospects for each team (2)
Possible 2003 draftees (Eventual)
Opening Day rosters (April 1)

bulldog55 · 02-28-2003, 08:02 PM

Dodgers Notes:

Darren Dreifort is missing from the Dodgers. That sucks big time.

Kevin Brown is making around $300k. While that's great for my pocketbook, it really detracts from the realism.

Quilvio Veras was signed to a minor league deal and he is not on the roster.

SoxWin · 02-28-2003, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by bulldog55
Dodgers Notes:

Darren Dreifort is missing from the Dodgers. That sucks big time.

Kevin Brown is making around $300k. While that's great for my pocketbook, it really detracts from the realism.

Quilvio Veras was signed to a minor league deal and he is not on the roster.

1. Did you check the DL ?

2. None of Rolen/GForce's rosters (I don't believe) have had accurate salary info. I'm pretty sure the game generates these somhow.

3. The read me says players on the 40 man roster are in this one. I don't think Veras is on the 40 as he basically got a minor league deal with an invitation to camp.

I may be totally off base here, maybe GForce will have better answers when he's not visiting his newborn (congrats btw)

Rich

atomheart · 02-28-2003, 11:19 PM

Great work!

Congrats on the offspring!!

GForce22 · 02-28-2003, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by bulldog55
I wish it had real salaries.

But a great set nonetheless. We all appreciate your hard work over the past couple of years.

Thanks Bulldog. Salaries are coming (in some form, adjusted downward maybe) but, given the way OOTP handles salaries, they are a low priority. My intention is to get to them, but after the players themselves are taken care of.

GH

GForce22 · 02-28-2003, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by SunDevil
Geforce,

FYI, the minor league team names and manager name for all the teams is blank. I know this is just a beta, but I thought I would mention it. Thanks for all your effort.

These will all be taken care of when I release the first real version. Real managers, minor league team names and coaches will be included.

GH

GForce22 · 02-28-2003, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by bulldog55
Dodgers Notes:

Darren Dreifort is missing from the Dodgers. That sucks big time.

Kevin Brown is making around $300k. While that's great for my pocketbook, it really detracts from the realism.

Quilvio Veras was signed to a minor league deal and he is not on the roster.

UGH...I knew Dreifort was one of the guys who didn't play at all last year so he wasn't in the base file Markus gave me from the Lahman import. I should've caught that.
Again, salaries weren't touched. It's easy enough for you to alter. Veras didn't play last year and isn't on the 40-man so he's not really someone I looked for, but I'll add him in v1. A few 40-man guys are still missing, which is the first thing I will be taking care of in my work on v1. If you have the Lahman Database you should be able to just import Dreifort.

GH
GH

jdurg · 02-28-2003, 11:33 PM

Salaries would be nice, but I think contract lengths are more important to me. When the player's contract is up, their salary is going to change to whatever OOTP5 thinks it should be. However, the lengths of the contracts are far more important to me. (For instance, on the Yankees Jason Giambi ends up being a free agent after the 2003 season. So that and some of the other players' contract lengths may need an adjustment.)

Another thing I saw that was mentioned earlier was the missing minor league team names, missing managers, incorrect coach names, etc. (However, most of those are cosmetic things that I can simply go in and change myself.) Anyways, enough anal nit-picking from me.

Thanks for the roster set GeForce, and I can't wait to see what else you have in store for them.

(Congrats on your son, by the way. To think, 18 years from now you'll be paying a fortune for his college education.

)

EDIT: Finishes typing out post and sees that GeForce has already responded and knows about everything I was mentioning. Learns to make quicker posts.

GForce22 · 03-01-2003, 12:17 AM

jdurg, I agree, contract lengths are more important. I'm forgetting who right now, but somebody here sent me a salary/contract file not too long ago. If he has it updated and gets it to me, I will try to accelerate the contract length part of it, hopefully into v1, if not then definitely v2.

It's really not a matter of contracts being unimportant guys, it's just a matter of getting the players rated well and into the game being more important. I'll be glad to get the contracts set well if time allows.

GH

cubanb · 03-01-2003, 02:23 AM

ive been playing mosty my games as the giants with these rosters and cant help but notice that right now im in the month of july and the phillies are in first place by 15 games:P
hehe, those phillies are always so damn good

LedgerSko · 03-01-2003, 02:43 AM

Whats up with Beckett sucking?

magicmike · 03-01-2003, 03:34 AM

GForce, the patch works great. Thanks a ton, and special congrats on becoming a daddy!

I know this is a beta and that you have some ambitious plans already in the works , but thought I'd point out the one issue I've seen. In a few instances the ai will place players in odd places in the lineup. For example, Colorado has Todd Helton leading off and Jay Payton batting cleanup. Nomar is batting sixth for the RedSox, the Cubs have Sosa batting 5th and Corey Patterson batting 4th, the Dodgers have Joe Thurston batting 4th, Phil Nevin bats 2nd for the Padres, and so on.

Just wanted to flag this for your attention. Thanks again for the roster patch and also for making it available on launch day - I really enjoy starting careers with the real name players and all the history that comes with them.

GForce22 · 03-01-2003, 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by cubanb
ive been playing mosty my games as the giants with these rosters and cant help but notice that right now im in the month of july and the phillies are in first place by 15 games:P
hehe, those phillies are always so damn good

LOL!!! You can't even blame Rolen as he didn't do stuff for this set. Actually, the Phillies numbers are just from the Lahman import except for the prospects (Byrd, Utley, etc). We'll see what happens once I get the rating updated

GH

GForce22 · 03-01-2003, 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by magicmike
GForce, the patch works great. Thanks a ton, and special congrats on becoming a daddy!

I know this is a beta and that you have some ambitious plans already in the works , but thought I'd point out the one issue I've seen. In a few instances the ai will place players in odd places in the lineup. For example, Colorado has Todd Helton leading off and Jay Payton batting cleanup. Nomar is batting sixth for the RedSox, the Cubs have Sosa batting 5th and Corey Patterson batting 4th, the Dodgers have Joe Thurston batting 4th, Phil Nevin bats 2nd for the Padres, and so on.

Just wanted to flag this for your attention. Thanks again for the roster patch and also for making it available on launch day - I really enjoy starting careers with the real name players and all the history that comes with them.

Yeah, the game is making weird lineups and I'm not sure why. I adjusted the lineups and rotations before release, but unfortunately I can't control what it does afterwards. Again, since I didn't adjust the major league vets, it's not really a "roster" issue. I'll talk with Markus and see if he notices anything that could be causing the weird lineups in time for the patch.

I'm glad you like the file. I know there's a lot more to do, but I figured this would at least give people real names, prospects, etc. with good ratings, though not as accurate as they will be. There's more to come

GH

Tiger Fan · 03-01-2003, 07:49 AM

GForce. Thanks for your efforts on the roster set. Much appreciated. There is a small issue for you to fix with the schedule in your next release. Here is my reply on how to fix the problem from another thread. You can do this yourself in the next build and users wont have to do it themselves.

This problem (no players on allstar roster or all minor leaguers) is only occurring with GForce's addon rosters and here is how to correct. Prior to starting your season go to the edit schedule option and change year starts on date to Mar 24 or 3/24 in game format. Then skip forward to July 15th and delete the allstar game. Next key in allstar date as 7/15 and the allstar game will be readded and your problems solved.

This is not an OOTP5 problem but rather an issue with third party schedule addons. The same must be done with the ones I created.

__________________

02-28-2003, 04:08 PM	#23
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,217	a couple of ways of doing it. You can copy all of the information into your create file and then that will be what you use every time you start a standard league or you could put them in a league folder and start a season right away with them. Until Gregg has a chance to do some work on the schedule you will have to correct the start date of the schedule I believe to 3/25 instead of 4/1 since the schedule starts earlier this year. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

02-28-2003, 04:59 PM	#25
Neuqua458 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 33	Is there a timetable for the finished version of the Total Minors set to be released? Neuqua __________________ RWBL Chicago Cubs JBL Nippon Ham Fighters BL2 Tampa Bay Devil Rays

02-28-2003, 08:02 PM	#27
bulldog55 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California's Canada Warnings: 17 Posts: 2,481	Dodgers Notes: Darren Dreifort is missing from the Dodgers. That sucks big time. Kevin Brown is making around $300k. While that's great for my pocketbook, it really detracts from the realism. Quilvio Veras was signed to a minor league deal and he is not on the roster. __________________ Commissioner, Trans-Continental Base Ball Association Owner/GM, Los Angeles Electrics (TCBA), Beaverton Rangers (OTBL), Portland Mavericks (Union League), and Los Angeles Superbas (Century League) Being smart, don't always make you popular.

03-01-2003, 03:34 AM	#37
magicmike Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hawaii Posts: 365	GForce, the patch works great. Thanks a ton, and special congrats on becoming a daddy! I know this is a beta and that you have some ambitious plans already in the works , but thought I'd point out the one issue I've seen. In a few instances the ai will place players in odd places in the lineup. For example, Colorado has Todd Helton leading off and Jay Payton batting cleanup. Nomar is batting sixth for the RedSox, the Cubs have Sosa batting 5th and Corey Patterson batting 4th, the Dodgers have Joe Thurston batting 4th, Phil Nevin bats 2nd for the Padres, and so on. Just wanted to flag this for your attention. Thanks again for the roster patch and also for making it available on launch day - I really enjoy starting careers with the real name players and all the history that comes with them. __________________ aloha and mahalo HCBL Kansas City Royals 2003 AL Central Champs SMLB Houston Astros VLB Anaheim Angels UBL Pittsburgh Pirates "Barry Bonds? I'll tell you what, if he hit a home run off (Bob) Gibson or (Don) Drysdale and stood and admired it, they'd knock that earring out of his ear the next time up." - National League Umpire Doug Harvey

03-01-2003, 07:49 AM	#40
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	GForce. Thanks for your efforts on the roster set. Much appreciated. There is a small issue for you to fix with the schedule in your next release. Here is my reply on how to fix the problem from another thread. You can do this yourself in the next build and users wont have to do it themselves. This problem (no players on allstar roster or all minor leaguers) is only occurring with GForce's addon rosters and here is how to correct. Prior to starting your season go to the edit schedule option and change year starts on date to Mar 24 or 3/24 in game format. Then skip forward to July 15th and delete the allstar game. Next key in allstar date as 7/15 and the allstar game will be readded and your problems solved. This is not an OOTP5 problem but rather an issue with third party schedule addons. The same must be done with the ones I created. __________________ __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

02-28-2003, 04:02 PM	#21
X ny mets 2003 x Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 48	guys.. help please

02-28-2003, 05:44 PM	#26
SunDevil Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 373	Neuqua458, Geforce lays out the timetable in the readme file he provides. But here it is. Any players on the 40-man roster not in this set (V1: Target Date Sunday, March 9) More major leaguer adjustments (my stats, split adjusted) (constant) Any players in Baseball America’s top 30 prospects for each team (2) Possible 2003 draftees (Eventual) Opening Day rosters (April 1)

02-28-2003, 11:19 PM	#29
atomheart Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 454	Great work! Congrats on the offspring!!

02-28-2003, 11:33 PM	#33
jdurg Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oakdale, CT Posts: 20	Salaries would be nice, but I think contract lengths are more important to me. When the player's contract is up, their salary is going to change to whatever OOTP5 thinks it should be. However, the lengths of the contracts are far more important to me. (For instance, on the Yankees Jason Giambi ends up being a free agent after the 2003 season. So that and some of the other players' contract lengths may need an adjustment.) Another thing I saw that was mentioned earlier was the missing minor league team names, missing managers, incorrect coach names, etc. (However, most of those are cosmetic things that I can simply go in and change myself.) Anyways, enough anal nit-picking from me. Thanks for the roster set GeForce, and I can't wait to see what else you have in store for them. (Congrats on your son, by the way. To think, 18 years from now you'll be paying a fortune for his college education. ) EDIT: Finishes typing out post and sees that GeForce has already responded and knows about everything I was mentioning. Learns to make quicker posts.

03-01-2003, 12:17 AM	#34
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	jdurg, I agree, contract lengths are more important. I'm forgetting who right now, but somebody here sent me a salary/contract file not too long ago. If he has it updated and gets it to me, I will try to accelerate the contract length part of it, hopefully into v1, if not then definitely v2. It's really not a matter of contracts being unimportant guys, it's just a matter of getting the players rated well and into the game being more important. I'll be glad to get the contracts set well if time allows. GH

03-01-2003, 02:23 AM	#35
cubanb Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 47	ive been playing mosty my games as the giants with these rosters and cant help but notice that right now im in the month of july and the phillies are in first place by 15 games:P hehe, those phillies are always so damn good

03-01-2003, 02:43 AM	#36
LedgerSko All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,085	Whats up with Beckett sucking?