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Old 01-18-2015, 09:07 PM   #21
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the only DLC i would support would be Inside the Park Baseball.
I'm thinking we'll be waiting forever
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:24 PM   #22
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Right....inflation and a better product can at times result in a price increase..and that's fine.
Or maybe the cost of an MLB license...
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 01-18-2015, 11:25 PM   #23
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Fact of the matter is that I have recently purchased an audio editing program and have been dabbling. I'd like to start overlaying some organ sounds that I have found but my background sounds are slim-pickings. Also blending the texture of the sound overlays is currently challenging for me. And I keep getting this beep sound at the end of my files.
Which program are you using?
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:38 AM   #24
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I hope we never go down this road. OOTP should continue to come complete and be priced accordingly. My 2 cents.
This. Unless the market drastically changes down the road...
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:00 AM   #25
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This. Unless the market drastically changes down the road...
There's some wisdom for you.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 01-19-2015, 12:52 PM   #26
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I would highly encourage those of you who would pay for mods to support mod makers that give you the same free stuff with donations. It's a tremendous encouragement to those who spend a lot of time on mods. Mods like Questdog's name pack, Getch's OOTP:OU, and Justafan's graphics utils take quite a bit of work. If you love them, toss a few bucks their way and I'm sure you'll continue to see efforts like that.

In my experience, you can find someone willing to mod just about anything you ask for if you ask nicely.
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This. Unless the market drastically changes down the road...
Good to hear. The market does seem very DLC oriented already though, so I really hope it doesn't get even more so lol.
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I would highly encourage those of you who would pay for mods to support mod makers that give you the same free stuff with donations. It's a tremendous encouragement to those who spend a lot of time on mods. Mods like Questdog's name pack, Getch's OOTP:OU, and Justafan's graphics utils take quite a bit of work. If you love them, toss a few bucks their way and I'm sure you'll continue to see efforts like that.

In my experience, you can find someone willing to mod just about anything you ask for if you ask nicely.

Agreed. And don't forget tnfoto who has done utterly great things for us with the photos:

https://sites.google.com/site/tnfoto.../home/facepack
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Actually OOTP is all about DLC.

We get it in a form of a new game version every year, nothing wrong with that and it is expected. I actually have a lifetime membership.
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Old 01-19-2015, 07:52 PM   #30
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I would highly encourage those of you who would pay for mods to support mod makers that give you the same free stuff with donations. It's a tremendous encouragement to those who spend a lot of time on mods. Mods like Questdog's name pack, Getch's OOTP:OU, and Justafan's graphics utils take quite a bit of work. If you love them, toss a few bucks their way and I'm sure you'll continue to see efforts like that.

In my experience, you can find someone willing to mod just about anything you ask for if you ask nicely.
I personally would rather to see the better mods incorporated into the game directly and the people who did them being paid for them and getting design credit. Justafans three uniform/logo mods, for instance, could be built into the game.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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I would highly encourage those of you who would pay for mods to support mod makers that give you the same free stuff with donations. It's a tremendous encouragement to those who spend a lot of time on mods. Mods like Questdog's name pack, Getch's OOTP:OU, and Justafan's graphics utils take quite a bit of work. If you love them, toss a few bucks their way and I'm sure you'll continue to see efforts like that.

In my experience, you can find someone willing to mod just about anything you ask for if you ask nicely.
Gambo is still the Babe Ruth of modders, with the historical facegen project and databases...if you play historical. With facegens. Like I do. Justafan's a close second. Maybe he's the Ted Williams, since he's a Red Sox fan.
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I detest the in-game purchases in FM. It destroys my respect for the game.
Speaking in terms of more common usage, in-game purchases are not the same as DLC. The former is known as 'microtransactions' and are found most frequently in (nominally) free apps. DLC tends to feature bigger items/downloads, often tied to the so-called 'season passes'. (Anyone who's been a console gamer for any length of time is familiar with both.)
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Speaking in terms of more common usage, in-game purchases are not the same as DLC. The former is known as 'microtransactions' and are found most frequently in (nominally) free apps. DLC tends to feature bigger items/downloads, often tied to the so-called 'season passes'. (Anyone who's been a console gamer for any length of time is familiar with both.)
I love ya LGO, but I've been a console gamer for more than 20 years and I've never heard the term "microtransactions" used when referring to a purchased add-on to a game. I completely understand your post, but I've never once heard that term.

DLC is widely used to refer to anything the user needs to purchase to add to the game. Is it technically the correct term to use? No, but it's the term people use.
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:13 AM   #34
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Gambo is still the Babe Ruth of modders, with the historical facegen project and databases...if you play historical. With facegens. Like I do. Justafan's a close second. Maybe he's the Ted Williams, since he's a Red Sox fan.
Just in case you wondered, I've always thought of myself as the Phil Coke of modders
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:30 AM   #35
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Speaking in terms of more common usage, in-game purchases are not the same as DLC. The former is known as 'microtransactions' and are found most frequently in (nominally) free apps. DLC tends to feature bigger items/downloads, often tied to the so-called 'season passes'. (Anyone who's been a console gamer for any length of time is familiar with both.)
Well I'm not a console gamer and most everybody here seemed to know what the reference was about. FM and OOTP are the leading products in this niche and I was simply pointing out that in-game purchases were detestable. Terminology does not change the point being made.
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Markus, please, please, please make season disks like in DDS: Pro Basketball!

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Just in case you wondered, I've always thought of myself as the Phil Coke of modders
Phil Coke is awesome, looked at in the right light. He's a 32 year old who has made more than $6 million dollars in his career. He has a pension of at least $100k a year starting at age 62. If he stays in the bigs through the end of the '18 season, the pension rises to nearly $200k a year. He might just get there with a pinch of luck as a LOOGY.
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Phil Coke is awesome, looked at in the right light. He's a 32 year old who has made more than $6 million dollars in his career. He has a pension of at least $100k a year starting at age 62. If he stays in the bigs through the end of the '18 season, the pension rises to nearly $200k a year. He might just get there with a pinch of luck as a LOOGY.
Alright, I may have over stepped a little.....I'm the Richie Lewis of modders
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I love ya LGO, but I've been a console gamer for more than 20 years and I've never heard the term "microtransactions" used when referring to a purchased add-on to a game. I completely understand your post, but I've never once heard that term.
Heh, I've only been a console gamer for six years but apparently I'm more up on the current lingo and trends than you are. And I'm old.


Microtransactions are those small purchases one can make directly in a game, usually to bypass having to grind through various parts of the game. So rather than playing the game for X number of hours to unlock that item, you can pay $2 and have it unlocked now. As the transactions are usually small (a few dollars at a time typically) hence the name 'microtransactions'.

They are usually found most frequently in the so-called 'free-to-play' games. In those they are understandable, as such small transactions are how the devs make a return on their investment. But microtransactions have on occasion popped up in major triple-A titles, much to the annoyance of gamers who have already plopped down $60 to buy the big title.

DLC typically refers to the bigger packages/collections of items that come with a larger cost. One does not need to purchase and download the DLC, the game will still run perfectly fine without it, but one will find oneself missing out on new maps, mini-campaigns, and the like as a result. An annoyance for gamers here is DLC that is on the game disc (which means arguably the gamer has already purchased it) yet which cannot be unlocked without a further purchase (in spite of having already spent $50-$60 to buy the game and own the disc).
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ok sorry to ask but what is a DLC?
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