Updates from Andreas? - Page 2

Mugsy · 08-24-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevebydac

I keep imagining Andreas thinking of us this way:

Andreas = smiley, us = fly.

You would think Andreas would just come out with a patch or something so we'd shut up and leave him alone

Cap · 09-03-2009, 12:44 PM

I sent an email to Andreas yesterday asking for a brief progress report, but no reply yet. He is a busy guy though, and will, no doubt, get back to us very soon. Unless something else comes up to delay him. Which can happen. It is September after all. Busy time. School for his kids, I guess. Work on OOTP patches. Grocery shopping. Paint the doghouse. Fix that sink trap. Trim the hedge. Busy time.

Yes sir. Busy time.

Cap

Mugsy · 09-03-2009, 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=Cap;2812987]I sent an email to Andreas yesterday asking for a brief progress report, but no reply yet. He is a busy guy though, and will, no doubt, get back to us very soon. Unless something else comes up to delay him. Which can happen. It is September after all. Busy time. School for his kids, I guess. Work on OOTP patches. Grocery shopping. Paint the doghouse. Fix that sink trap. Trim the hedge. Busy time.

Yes sir. Busy time.

I have no doubt he is very busy, as most of us are with out jobs and families and other responsibilities. However, it doesnt take but a few minutes to respond to an e-mail.

CONN CHRIS · 09-03-2009, 03:02 PM

I wish that I knew what the future holds for TBCB but I just do not. I sent Andreas a PM as well - hopefully, he can pop down and just let everyone know what is or isn't on his mind.

Christopher

gene21253 · 09-03-2009, 06:21 PM

It is a shame everyone is being left out in the cold .This is a great game and can even be a better one with a little more TLC .
What also makes this game outstanding is the forum and the wealth of knowledge from all within it

Bogie · 09-03-2009, 06:42 PM

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh crap...I forgot the hedges!

stevebydac · 09-03-2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

This is a great game and can even be a better one with a little more TLC . What also makes this game outstanding is the forum and the wealth of knowledge from all within it

Perfect summary.

Andreas Raht · 09-04-2009, 12:17 PM

Hey guys, I'm still here

I'm still looking for a programmer who would help me with some great TBCB ideas. Unfortunately they either cannot code or they already have a job.

I'm working 100% on OOTP all the time at the moment. Sorry guys

BigFiasco · 09-04-2009, 01:01 PM

thanks for the update though

Cap · 09-04-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

Hey guys, I'm still here

I'm still looking for a programmer who would help me with some great TBCB ideas. Unfortunately they either cannot code or they already have a job.

I'm working 100% on OOTP all the time at the moment. Sorry guys

Good to hear you're still alive, Andreas. Does this mean you won't have time to work on Title Bout for the foreseeable future because of OOTP duties?

According to recent statistics there are roughly 36 million unemployed in the West. Hard to believe there isn't even one person around able to code Title Bout.

Cap

gene21253 · 09-04-2009, 04:08 PM

I guess it is going to be a very long time .OOTP has a lot wrong with it and is not a very good historical replay game .You cant even play a ALL STAR game .Historical stats way off ..good luck

BigFiasco · 09-04-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap

Good to hear you're still alive, Andreas. Does this ?

According to recent statistics there are roughly 36 million unemployed in the West. Hard to believe there isn't even one person around able to code Title Bout.

Cap

haha no kidding.

Anyway, can we get the commentary update soon?

Bogie · 09-04-2009, 07:14 PM

Kind of sounds pretty bleak for TBCB, he didn't find time (or someone) to work on our game during his down-time from OOTP again this time.

It seems to me we have what we have...where have all the Trunzo's gone

Mugsy · 09-04-2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

Hey guys, I'm still here

I'm still looking for a programmer who would help me with some great TBCB ideas. Unfortunately they either cannot code or they already have a job.

I'm working 100% on OOTP all the time at the moment. Sorry guys

Well it's not the answer we wanted to hear, but at least he finally acknowledged we exist. Hopefully one day he'll find time, or a person who can code and get the boxing game to where it can be even better. But like previously posted, most likely it seems this is the game we are going to live with. Shame cause as great as it is, if the minor issues could be fixed it would be even better.

Cap · 09-05-2009, 11:05 AM

Well, me boyos, if Andreas can't find someone to code the game in the present conditions of high unemployment, then he ain't going to find someone, period. That seems to mean Title Bout is now an afterthought for OOTP. Wonder if they are shopping it around to some other gormless bunch of tech wallies. You'd think there'd be someone in North America who would be interested. Maybe Andreas should get in touch with Dave Koch of DK Sports Games and see if he might be a willing partner.....

Cap

IceTea · 09-05-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap

Well, me boyos, if Andreas can't find someone to code the game in the present conditions of high unemployment, then he ain't going to find someone, period. That seems to mean Title Bout is now an afterthought for OOTP. Wonder if they are shopping it around to some other gormless bunch of tech wallies. You'd think there'd be someone in North America who would be interested. Maybe Andreas should get in touch with Dave Koch of DK Sports Games and see if he might be a willing partner.....

Cap

Gotta give people the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure that they will locate someone who can assist in coding the game. As is it is the best boxing simulation on the market.

IceTea · 09-05-2009, 04:54 PM

Dave Koch does have a good football game. I have a league using his game that is starts season #10 next week.

All of that said, TB Boxing is the best text simulation out there.

Lee · 09-05-2009, 06:55 PM

I think the biggest issue is the coder needs to live on Andreas' side of the pond. You are right, there are probably plenty of people in north America available, but you have to remember the problems the Trunzos had using an abstentia programmer. There was a lot lost in terms of communication and they were unable to be hands on soto speak because they snail mailed updates back and forth at the time. Even though technology has improved and communication and file exchanges would be improved, I don't fault Andreas for wanting someone he can communicate with face ti face as needed.

The final thing is, Andreas paid to take over this title, I am pretty sure at some point he wants a greater return on his investment than he has received, so he (or someone he hires) will be working on fixes and new ideas at some point. In the meantime the Fighter updates and little things like continuing to build the commentary database will have to suffice and can still keep the game fresh, despite some of the existing issues with strategies, cuts, etc.

Antonin · 09-05-2009, 07:25 PM

*sigh*

Syd Thrift · 09-05-2009, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap

Well, me boyos, if Andreas can't find someone to code the game in the present conditions of high unemployment, then he ain't going to find someone, period. That seems to mean Title Bout is now an afterthought for OOTP. Wonder if they are shopping it around to some other gormless bunch of tech wallies. You'd think there'd be someone in North America who would be interested. Maybe Andreas should get in touch with Dave Koch of DK Sports Games and see if he might be a willing partner.....

I like Action! PC football all right I guess (I started a 1988 replay but killed it because it would have taken way too freaking long to make the 3-4 teams actually play 3-4 and I don't want to play defense in every game), but Dave Koch is appealing to a totally different market than OOTP and the retooled TBCB. Koch made one foray into making A!PC into a season-to-season GM sim and the results were disastrous (it was the football game released by WizardWorks several years ago). He doesn't seem to make major changes to his games from one year to the next and he certainly does not make an attempt to keep up with the latest in sports technology the way Markus and Andreas have with OOTP. I don't see how that would work for either side...

I'd actually like to see Adam Ryland get on board with boxing. He seems to be much more interested in pro wrestling and MMA but man... TCBC with a Total Extreme Warfare kind of take on promotions, titles, and so on would be fantastic.

09-03-2009, 12:44 PM	#22
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,957	I sent an email to Andreas yesterday asking for a brief progress report, but no reply yet. He is a busy guy though, and will, no doubt, get back to us very soon. Unless something else comes up to delay him. Which can happen. It is September after all. Busy time. School for his kids, I guess. Work on OOTP patches. Grocery shopping. Paint the doghouse. Fix that sink trap. Trim the hedge. Busy time. Yes sir. Busy time. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

09-03-2009, 03:02 PM	#24
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,005	I wish that I knew what the future holds for TBCB but I just do not. I sent Andreas a PM as well - hopefully, he can pop down and just let everyone know what is or isn't on his mind. Christopher __________________ Check Out My Cards!

09-04-2009, 12:17 PM	#28
Andreas Raht Administrator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hollern/Stade/Germany Posts: 8,992	Hey guys, I'm still here I'm still looking for a programmer who would help me with some great TBCB ideas. Unfortunately they either cannot code or they already have a job. I'm working 100% on OOTP all the time at the moment. Sorry guys __________________ Andreas Raht andreas@ootpdevelopments.com Out of the Park Developments

09-05-2009, 11:05 AM	#35
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,957	Well, me boyos, if Andreas can't find someone to code the game in the present conditions of high unemployment, then he ain't going to find someone, period. That seems to mean Title Bout is now an afterthought for OOTP. Wonder if they are shopping it around to some other gormless bunch of tech wallies. You'd think there'd be someone in North America who would be interested. Maybe Andreas should get in touch with Dave Koch of DK Sports Games and see if he might be a willing partner..... Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

09-05-2009, 04:54 PM	#37
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,834	Dave Koch does have a good football game. I have a league using his game that is starts season #10 next week. All of that said, TB Boxing is the best text simulation out there. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

09-03-2009, 02:33 PM	#23
Mugsy Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 243	[QUOTE=Cap;2812987]I sent an email to Andreas yesterday asking for a brief progress report, but no reply yet. He is a busy guy though, and will, no doubt, get back to us very soon. Unless something else comes up to delay him. Which can happen. It is September after all. Busy time. School for his kids, I guess. Work on OOTP patches. Grocery shopping. Paint the doghouse. Fix that sink trap. Trim the hedge. Busy time. Yes sir. Busy time. I have no doubt he is very busy, as most of us are with out jobs and families and other responsibilities. However, it doesnt take but a few minutes to respond to an e-mail.

09-03-2009, 06:21 PM	#25
gene21253 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 15	It is a shame everyone is being left out in the cold .This is a great game and can even be a better one with a little more TLC . What also makes this game outstanding is the forum and the wealth of knowledge from all within it

09-03-2009, 06:42 PM	#26
Bogie All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 561	Ohhhhhhhhhhhh crap...I forgot the hedges!

09-04-2009, 01:01 PM	#29
BigFiasco Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 213	thanks for the update though

09-04-2009, 04:08 PM	#31
gene21253 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 15	I guess it is going to be a very long time .OOTP has a lot wrong with it and is not a very good historical replay game .You cant even play a ALL STAR game .Historical stats way off ..good luck

09-04-2009, 07:14 PM	#33
Bogie All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 561	Kind of sounds pretty bleak for TBCB, he didn't find time (or someone) to work on our game during his down-time from OOTP again this time. It seems to me we have what we have...where have all the Trunzo's gone

09-05-2009, 06:55 PM	#38
Lee Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Scorched Desert Posts: 4,652	I think the biggest issue is the coder needs to live on Andreas' side of the pond. You are right, there are probably plenty of people in north America available, but you have to remember the problems the Trunzos had using an abstentia programmer. There was a lot lost in terms of communication and they were unable to be hands on soto speak because they snail mailed updates back and forth at the time. Even though technology has improved and communication and file exchanges would be improved, I don't fault Andreas for wanting someone he can communicate with face ti face as needed. The final thing is, Andreas paid to take over this title, I am pretty sure at some point he wants a greater return on his investment than he has received, so he (or someone he hires) will be working on fixes and new ideas at some point. In the meantime the Fighter updates and little things like continuing to build the commentary database will have to suffice and can still keep the game fresh, despite some of the existing issues with strategies, cuts, etc.

09-05-2009, 07:25 PM	#39
Antonin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,536	sigh __________________ "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" - Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), San Francisco, 14 January 1978