Coming from OOTP6, the interface is completely alien and non-sensical - Page 2

RchW · 06-05-2009, 09:01 PM

I completely respect those who have had problems with the not so "new" interface. Somehow I was lucky and this set up worked for me. Must be some sort of cognitive thing because I find it seamless for my needs.

Aytumious · 06-05-2009, 10:53 PM

Does anyone else think the regular player profile should be the default click with the right click taking you to the HTML? I rarely ever look at HTML player pages.

Is there a reason it is this way, since over time this adds a ton of extra (unneccesary IMO) clicks?

Malleus Dei · 06-05-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fantom1979

4 years later I still don't like this interface.

From what I've read here a lot of people agree with you.

JWay · 06-06-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

From what I've read here a lot of people agree with you.

And from what I've read there's a lot that do like it.

CoachDirty · 06-06-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tysok

But you can't shop 2 players in the same trade. I've found I wished I could do that a lot and it's not possible. He has a very valid gripe here.

If I'm looking to trade Bob and George off I'll go talk to Atlanta for a while... can't find a good match there so I switch so I can talk to Philly for a while, but I have to go find Bob and George again. Why is a good question...
I'm wanting to talk to multiple teams about trading Bob and George, no good reason(beyond possibly code issues) why I should constantly have to add Bob and George back into the window.

You also get a message from the other team immediately. Nothing as simple as the old "who would make it work" button but you get feedback.

I just tested this out and tried to trade someone to KC... throw up a KC player and it says "I'm sorry, but I will not accept trades that include vastly overpaid veterans." I know it's useless to continue talking to KC about my player now.
I change my player and it now says "OK, that doesn't sound to bad. I agree to execute this trade now."

Personally I like challenge, but I want instant gratification and feedback as well. IMO this does both, it's more challenging to put together a trade, and I get feedback so I don't sit and waste my time waiting on an email that probably won't be worth reading anyhow (especially when it comes near the trading dead line).

There is a make this trade work now button, which will tell you what players on your team will complete the trade. (instantly)

cnrd · 06-06-2009, 12:13 AM

It seems ok to me. Im coming from 6.5 shich I love and the adjustment it takes to acclimate to 10 is minimal. There is a lot more detail but it is intuitive to handle and I havent been having a problem with it.

It's a lot more complex but I like that. It will take longer to fully digest and learn it all and become expert with it.

It's a nice step up in detail from 6.5.

Malleus Dei · 06-06-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JWay

And from what I've read there's a lot that do like it.

There's just no accounting for taste, is there?

JWay · 06-06-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

There's just no accounting for taste, is there?

Yeah, can't win them all... What do you do...

fantom1979 · 06-06-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JWay

And from what I've read there's a lot that do like it.

I have been really close to liking it in the past, but then something happens which makes me hate it again. Not being able to adjust your minor league transactions quickly comes to mind (both an AI and interface issue).

I haven't played this year's version yet, so maybe it has taken that next step.

I must admit, the HTML player card is greatly improved from what I remember.

JWay · 06-06-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fantom1979

Not being able to adjust your minor league transactions quickly comes to mind

That's my one gripe, which sucks because I tend to overlook my minor leagues now. However that one negative is small to me. I miss the arrows and stuff =/

tysok · 06-06-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachDirty

There is a make this trade work now button, which will tell you what players on your team will complete the trade. (instantly)

So there is. I'd not noticed that before.

Malleus Dei · 06-06-2009, 01:18 AM

I keep on hoping that Markus will bring the arrows back one day. They were great.

Neags23 · 06-06-2009, 01:25 AM

There are so many things people complain about with the interface that they can't do or wish it was easier to do, but it almost always turns out that you can do it, they just didn't know how.

Of course, that's 50% user fault, 50% designer fault. A really slick interface enables a user to not really have to "figure out" how to do things. A really slick user can figure things out anyway.

Le Grande Orange · 06-06-2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cody8200

WHY is the home page a web page in HTML format? And many other pages for that matter? It seems almost all of these pages could just as easily have been rendered in-game.

There are quite a few such inconsistencies and issues in OOTP's interface. Nothing major, but enough minor things that, to the aesthetically minded at any rate, they can get annoying.

I classify the OOTP inferface as workmanlike, which means it gets the job done fairly well, but it isn't as pretty or efficient as it could be.

cody8200 · 06-06-2009, 02:24 AM

BTW,

I didn't say the line attributed to me above. Someone else did

I'm fine with the interface because I have been using it for a few years. There are definitely some peculiarity to it but I don't mind.

Malleus Dei · 06-06-2009, 10:20 AM

Markus needs to rewrite the interface anyway to allow for mass select.

GMahler · 06-06-2009, 10:36 AM

There is still an influence from SI's Football Manager when you look at the interface but it is much better than the first "post 6.5" version!

SSG Troyer · 06-06-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

There's just no accounting for taste, is there?

Or the lack of it....

Eugene Church · 06-06-2009, 01:29 PM

Read the manual line-by-line when you set up a league.

Going from OOTP6 to OOTP10 is a huge jolt. I was so overwhelmed I didn't even play a league using OOTPB 2006 because of the difficulty.

You have a huge learning curve.

But given time and study, you will adjust to the new interface.

I loved OOTP6.51, but it is not in the ballpark in comparison to OOTP10.

There were 5 shutout news stories in OOTP6.51.
About 200 in OOTP10.

I'm sure there are other comparable comparisons in other areas of the game.

PBP is far, far better in OOTP10.

It is a far more complex game than OOTP6. Hence a far more complex interface.

OOTPB is a great game. We just have to adjust to the changes that are made version-to-version.

ComputerFreek129 · 06-06-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eugene Church

PBP is far, far better in OOTP10.

Really? So far I'm finding it really, really dry. Every play reads the same for me - no colorful descriptions of great over the wall catches or TOWERING SHOT or the like, so far...

06-05-2009, 09:01 PM	#21
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	I completely respect those who have had problems with the not so "new" interface. Somehow I was lucky and this set up worked for me. Must be some sort of cognitive thing because I find it seamless for my needs. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

06-06-2009, 01:25 AM	#33
Neags23 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,577	There are so many things people complain about with the interface that they can't do or wish it was easier to do, but it almost always turns out that you can do it, they just didn't know how. Of course, that's 50% user fault, 50% designer fault. A really slick interface enables a user to not really have to "figure out" how to do things. A really slick user can figure things out anyway. __________________ GM Havana Sugar Kings, World Baseball League - 2000, 2003, 2005 WBL Champions Former GM Washburn Sea Wolves Dog Days Baseball - 1981 & 1986 Kennel Cup Champions

06-05-2009, 10:53 PM	#22
Aytumious Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 268	Does anyone else think the regular player profile should be the default click with the right click taking you to the HTML? I rarely ever look at HTML player pages. Is there a reason it is this way, since over time this adds a ton of extra (unneccesary IMO) clicks?

06-06-2009, 12:13 AM	#26
cnrd Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 39	It seems ok to me. Im coming from 6.5 shich I love and the adjustment it takes to acclimate to 10 is minimal. There is a lot more detail but it is intuitive to handle and I havent been having a problem with it. It's a lot more complex but I like that. It will take longer to fully digest and learn it all and become expert with it. It's a nice step up in detail from 6.5.

06-06-2009, 02:24 AM	#35
cody8200 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,436	BTW, I didn't say the line attributed to me above. Someone else did I'm fine with the interface because I have been using it for a few years. There are definitely some peculiarity to it but I don't mind.

06-06-2009, 10:36 AM	#37
GMahler Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 43	There is still an influence from SI's Football Manager when you look at the interface but it is much better than the first "post 6.5" version!

06-06-2009, 01:29 PM	#39
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,984	Read the manual line-by-line when you set up a league. Going from OOTP6 to OOTP10 is a huge jolt. I was so overwhelmed I didn't even play a league using OOTPB 2006 because of the difficulty. You have a huge learning curve. But given time and study, you will adjust to the new interface. I loved OOTP6.51, but it is not in the ballpark in comparison to OOTP10. There were 5 shutout news stories in OOTP6.51. About 200 in OOTP10. I'm sure there are other comparable comparisons in other areas of the game. PBP is far, far better in OOTP10. It is a far more complex game than OOTP6. Hence a far more complex interface. OOTPB is a great game. We just have to adjust to the changes that are made version-to-version.