Do you want Bonds to break the HR record? - Page 2

Terpripken · 11-19-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherAlias

It's only important to Baseball purists. The people that don't care, or actually want him to break Aaron's record, just aren't purist enough to let Bonds' hunt for the record bother them. It's as simple as that.

If someday it's proven that Aaron or Ruth used enhancements/steroids when they first set the records, then, and only then, would I be of the opinion that Bonds deserves the record.

After all, if Aaron or Ruth cheated in the same way it's alleged that Bonds had been cheating...who knows? The record could be near 950 or 1,000, and Barry would be far from breaking it today. However, we can readily assume Aaron and Ruth weren't on steroids I believe...LOL. But if they were, who can rightly say what the record might be?

Well....I think it is safe to say that the Babe was on "substances" at times when he played. I wonder what it is like to hit a fastball drunk? LOL

marc · 11-19-2006, 11:44 AM

I would rather he didn't break the record that's for sure. I don't get as worked up about it as some, but maybe that's because baseball is like my 4th or 5th favorite sport.

AnotherAlias · 11-19-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Terpripken

Well....I think it is safe to say that the Babe was on "substances" at times when he played. I wonder what it is like to hit a fastball drunk? LOL

A good point that begs the question: If we took away Bonds' choice of enhancement - steroids - and replaced it with Ruth's choice of enhancement - alcohol - would Bonds have ever reached 700 homers?

Dagrims · 11-19-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by darkenigma510

No hatred for Jeremy Giambi?

I hate him and his brother Jason, and don't want either one of them to break the career HR record.

CommishJoe · 11-19-2006, 12:38 PM

I don't want to see Bonds break the record, but I also wouldn't want to see him break his leg. He might be a jerk in my eyes, but he's still a human and I don't wish ill on other people. Not even my ex-wife

canadiancreed · 11-19-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

I would rather he didn't break the record that's for sure. I don't get as worked up about it as some, but maybe that's because baseball is like my 4th or 5th favorite sport.

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only with even less caring. With 1994 and the Expos fiasco, MLB brand baseball as vaulted to the basement of "I give a crap" in the sports world.

disposableheros · 11-19-2006, 01:25 PM

i dont want to see him do it, not that i dont want someone to, just not him. its not so much the steroid thing for me, its his attitiude and demeanor towards the public. id rather a "nice guy" do it.

Jestor · 11-19-2006, 05:00 PM

Hell no! On the other hand, it'd give me yet another reason to despise San Francisco.

pat · 11-19-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jestor

Hell no! On the other hand, it'd give me yet another reason to despise San Francisco.

Well, he's not in San Fran anymore.

AnotherAlias · 11-19-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

I don't wish ill on other people. Not even my ex-wife

WAFFLE!!!

I can relate...

Raderick · 11-19-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

Where are the I hope Shawn Merriman breaks his leg posts? Since, you know, he actually tested positive for a banned substance.

There is a difference between "I know what I did and I regret it" and "I'm going to do it and I don't give a damn if you care or not".

magnet · 11-19-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

There is a difference between "I know what I did and I regret it" and "I'm going to do it and I don't give a damn if you care or not".

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MuertoDesagradecido · 11-19-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

There is a difference between "I know what I did and I regret it" and "I'm going to do it and I don't give a damn if you care or not".

Well of course Shawn Merriman would say that: he got caught. Barry has never tested positive so you don't really know if he would say anything different. There's no difference at all, other than the fact that Merriman is an admitted steroid user and Barry an alleged one. You just like Shawm Merriman a lot more.

I'd like to see him do it, but it's not a huge deal to me; a few more homers here and there aren't going to change his career value much and if it weren't for the park he played in he'd have well over 755 anyway.

Raderick · 11-19-2006, 08:38 PM

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There is a difference between "I know what I did and I regret it" and "I'm going to do it and I don't give a damn if you care or not".[/QUOTE
Well of course Shawn Merriman would say that: he got caught. Barry has never tested positive so you don't really know if he would say anything different.

I'd like to see him do it, but it's not a huge deal to me; a few more homers here and there aren't going to change his career value much and if it weren't for the park he played in he'd have well over 755 anyway.

But he admitted it in front of the Federal Grand Jury.

MuertoDesagradecido · 11-19-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

But he admitted it in front of the Federal Grand Jury.

No, he admitted to something that was very likely steroid use. You think it was, I think it was, it still isn't a positive test.

molarmite · 11-19-2006, 08:44 PM

He won't so it doesn't really matter. I still don't think Aaron should've passed Ruth but oh well.

MuertoDesagradecido · 11-19-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

He won't so it doesn't really matter. I still don't think Aaron should've passed Ruth but oh well.

Eh? Why not? To the latter statement, not the former (though I'd be amazed if Bonds didn't break the record, that's a pretty bold prediction).

Raderick · 11-19-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MuertoDesagradecido

No, he admitted to something that was very likely steroid use. You think it was, I think it was, it still isn't a positive test.

But he did it, and he admitted it. What other proof is needed? He might had gone off the juice once they started testing full time in 2004.

MuertoDesagradecido · 11-19-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

But he did it, and he admitted it. What other proof is needed? He might had gone off the juice once they started testing full time in 2004.

But, see, he didn't admit it. That's my point.

andymac · 11-19-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

There is a difference between "I know what I did and I regret it" and "I'm going to do it and I don't give a damn if you care or not".

Yes, they are two different sentences. Of course, I have never heard anyone say the second one.

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marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	I would rather he didn't break the record that's for sure. I don't get as worked up about it as some, but maybe that's because baseball is like my 4th or 5th favorite sport. __________________

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CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	I don't want to see Bonds break the record, but I also wouldn't want to see him break his leg. He might be a jerk in my eyes, but he's still a human and I don't wish ill on other people. Not even my ex-wife __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

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molarmite Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,929	He won't so it doesn't really matter. I still don't think Aaron should've passed Ruth but oh well. __________________ From the wise mind of Davey Eckstein "Now all you need is a signature. A quote or initial, perhaps." [