Data base updates.

[PWillisTheMan]

Originally Posted by hamed2

Not that I've heard, I think it's the full 147 lb limit.

What you wrote about Tim @ WW makes sense, I honestly wasn't too impressed the last/only time he went to 147. He's not even a big puncher @ 140 so unless he's vastly improved or Manny is shot, I can't see Tim giving Manny too much trouble. Holt was even able to drop Tim @ 140.

Sadly, Bradley could win 10 rounds and he still won't get a decision.

[hamed2]

Originally Posted by PWillisTheMan

Sadly, Bradley could win 10 rounds and he still won't get a decision.

True, I just can't see his punches hurting Manny & if the buzzsaw Manny returns, Tim's never faced a guy as active or who punches as hard/fast either.

[hamed2]

Originally Posted by Jackyle

Nishioka is in there for sure... He's been there a while. If you can't find him let me know and I will post him in the Mods section for you.

Also IceTea added Tex Cobb. Do they even have a rating for a chin of titanium?

yeah, I found him - he was @ FW.

[hamed2]

Originally Posted by dragon29

Thanks for the info, guys.

While we are kind of on topic, what is everyone's opinion on the in-game auto adjustments? There are very differing opinions on this. Some dont use auto adjust when its a jump from/to a JR weight class from the original. I have also thought, at times, that the in game adjustments in weight class jumps really weaken the fighter moving in weight.

Do you guys think that using a JWW Bradley as a WW (letting the game adjust for the weight class difference) would give a good interpretation of his performance at 147? Another example...there is not a JFW verison of Donaire but would the BW Donaire fighting @ JFW (computer adjusted/fighting a JFW) be pretty accurate to what a seperate JFW rating represent?

Thanks everyone!

That's a good question - I think we'll have a much better feel for what Tim does @ 147 after June 9th.

[IceTea]

Starlight Rollins changed to Edward Starlight Rollins

[hamed2]

Thanks for the updates of Bradley & Bailey @ WW!

BTW - forgot to include that Bailey won his 1st fight @ WW via an uppercut KO - just like in real with the KO of Mike Jones!

See how accurate this sim is?

[hamed2]

Great job on Humberto Soto @ 140!

[PWillisTheMan]

First off, you guys do a fantastic job of rating fighters. I make my tweaks but I don't do any testing and am nowhere near as good as you guys at accurate ratings. During the course of my tournaments in the basement I've added many divisions for fighters.

Some are obvious, others are a few fights. As much work as you put in on current fighters, I figured a list might be of aid in case you decide to work on some of the older guys.

Again, certainly not meant as a slight to all of the unappreciated and constant work done. I just think it might add to the data base as you forge forward and add some extra fun for users.

Newsboy Brown- BW
Jimmy McClarnin- Fly & LW
Fighting Harada- Fly & FW
Mark Johnson- JBW & BW
Chatchai Sasakul- Fly
Jimmy Barry- Fly
Johnny Coulon- Fly
Johnny Buff- Bantam
Orlando Canizales- Fly & JFW
Little Dado- Bantam
Vic Darchinayn- JBW
Nonito Donaire- JBW
Frankie Genaro- BW
Willie Jensen- Fly
Arthur Johnson- Fly
Danny Kid- BW
Fidel labarba- BW, FW & JLW
Santos Laciar- JBW
Little Pancho- Fly
Midget Wolgast- BW
Leo Gamez- SW, Jr Fly, JBW & BW
Rosendo Alvarez- SW & Jr Fly
Johnny Bredahl- JBW
Katsuhige Kawashima- JBW ( he never did much of anything at BW)
Nona Konadu- JBW
Cristian Mijares- BW
Sung Kil Moon- BW
Gerry Penalosa- BW & JFW
Sugar Baby Rojas- JFW
Johnny Tapia- BW, JFW & FW
Paulie Ayala- JFW
Hogan Bassey- BW
Mbulelo Botile- FW
Luisito Espinosa- BW
Jeff Fenech- BW & JLW
Wilfredo Gomez- BW
Jhonny Gonzalez- JFW
Bushy Graham- FW
Junior Jones- BW
Pornsawang Krattingdaenggym- JFW
Jorge Lujan- FW
Wayne McCullough- BW
Manuel Ortiz- FW
Raul Perez- JFW
Bernardo Pinango- JFW
Greg Richardson- JFW
Wilfredo Vazquez- BW & JFW
Daniel Zaragoza- BW
Carlos Zarate- JFW
Clarence Adams- JFW
Vuyani Bungu- FW
Bernard Dunne- JFW(no need to list him at FW)
Tracy Patterson- JFW
Daniel Ponce-Deleon- FW
George Araujo- FW
Alexis Arguello- JWW
Baby Arizmendi- LW
Battling Battalino- LW
Tony Canzoneri- FW
Kid Chocolate- JLW
Frank Erne- FW
Louis Kaplan- LW
Juan LaPorte- JLW
Rocky Lockridge- FW
Sean O'Grady- FW
Jorge Paez- FW
Willie Pep- LW
Zahir Raheem- FW
Sugar Ramos- LW
Sandy Saddler- JLW & LW
Eddie Shea- JLW
Cornelius Boza-Edwards- LW
Hector Camacho Sr- LW, JWW & WW
Diego Corrales- LW
Gabriel Elorde- LW
Angel Robinson Garcia- JLW
Frankie Klick- LW
Jesse James Leija- LW & JWW
Tony Lopez- LW
Roger Mayweather- JLW & LW
John John Molina- LW
Orlando Zulueta- JLW
Terrence Alli- LW
Jack Berg- LW
Jack Blackburn- WW
Livingstone Bramble- JWW
Pedro Carrasco- JWW
Howard Davis Jr- JWW
Oscar DelaHoya- JWW
Esteban Dejesus- JWW
Leonard Dorin- LW
Sammy Fuller- JWW
Joe Gans- WW
Greg Haugen- JWW
Anthony Jones- LW
Willie Joyce- LW
Sam Langford- WW
Juan Lazcano- LW
Benny Leonard- WW
Niccolino Locche- LW
Duilio Loi- LW
Sharmba Mitchell- LW & WW
Jose Napoles- LW
Carlos Ortiz- JWW
Vinny Pazienza- LW, JMW & SMW
Freddie Pendleton- LW
Frankie Randall- LW
Edwin Rosario- JWW
Pernell Whitaker- JWW & JMW
Ike Williams- WW

That's up through Lightweight. I'll make another post later with the rest, unless nobody wants me to.

[pisdpaul]

Can I just say a BIG THANK YOU to all of you that keep the data up to date...

Thanks guys....

[IceTea]

Ron Martinez changed to Roni Martinez

[PWillisTheMan]

Hey guys, Marvin Johnson has what seems like a mix up to me. 8HP & 10 END. I'd imagine they were meant to be the other way around. His endurance was his greatest weakness and he was one of the bigger punchers I've ever seen. A good comparison to me would be Shavers.

[Hanson Bros]

Originally Posted by PWillisTheMan

Hey guys, Marvin Johnson has what seems like a mix up to me. 8HP & 10 END. I'd imagine they were meant to be the other way around. His endurance was his greatest weakness and he was one of the bigger punchers I've ever seen. A good comparison to me would be Shavers.

I agree with that, when he lost it was because he ran out of gas (except for Spinks) ... one thing that sucks about TBCB is you can't duplicate his ability to cut opponents, he was one of the best at it.

[bear]

Originally Posted by Hanson Bros

I agree with that, when he lost it was because he ran out of gas (except for Spinks) ... one thing that sucks about TBCB is you can't duplicate his ability to cut opponents, he was one of the best at it.

That was available in the old board game.

[PWillisTheMan]

Originally Posted by bear

That was available in the old board game.

Yeah it was, I think Ali & Luis Rodriguez were the only 7's if my old age isn't failing me.

[PWillisTheMan]

Randall Bailey WW- that has probably been updated
Diosbelys Hurtado- WW
Aaron Pryor- LW
Eddie Perkins- WW
Vince Phillips- JWW
Rafael Pineda- WW
Ben Tackie- JWW
Meldrick Taylor- WW ( I personally think he is underrated at JWW in the rankings and I use the regular rating for WW)
Otkay Urkal- JWW
Ponchito Bojado- JWW- no reason for a WW rating
Johnny Bratton- LW
Lou Brouillard- WW
Charley Burley- WW
Jimmy Clabby- WW
Bobby Dykes- MW
Ceferino garcia- WW
Kid Gavilan- MW
Emile Griffith- JMW
Kevin Howard- WW
Charley Humez- WW
Joel Julio- WW
Pete Latzo- LHW
Harry Lewis- MW
Sergio Martinez- WW
Vince Pettway- WW
Wilfredo Rivera- WW
Luis Rodriguez- MW
Mike Sullivan- MW
Holman Williams- WW
Fritzie Zivic- MW
Nino benvenuti- JMW
Carl Daniels- JMW
Herol Graham- JMW
Keith Holmes- JMW
John David Jackson- JMW
Matthew Macklin- JMW
Harry Simon- JMW
John Mugabi- MW
Jack Chase- LHW
Billy Conn- MW
Bobby Czyz- MW
Jack Dillon- MW
Jimmy Ellis- MW
Tiger Flowers- LHW
Harry Greb- HW
Len Harvey- MW
Reggie Johnson- LHW
James Kinchen- MW
Don Lee- SMW
Bert Lytell- MW
Jock McAvoy- LHW
Archie Moore- MW
Jimmy Bivins- MW
Ezzard Charles- MW
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien- MW & HW
Merqui Sosa- MW
Frank Tate- SMW
James Toney- LHW
Tommy Gibbons- HW
William Guthrie- CW

[IceTea]

I must have accidentally deleted the Reggie Johnson LHW rating. I remember creating it some years ago. I remember doing a Harry Greb HW rating some time ago, but didn't post it. I'll update both soon.

[PWillisTheMan]

Originally Posted by IceTea

I must have accidentally deleted the Reggie Johnson LHW rating. I remember creating it some years ago. I remember doing a Harry Greb HW rating some time ago, but didn't post it. I'll update both soon.

I remember the Greb rating in the game, there used to be a WW for Langford too. Considering how vast the data base is,and how much work ya'll put in updating current guys, that really isn't that many fighters.

[IceTea]

Bryan Vazquez changed to Bryan Vasquez

[hamed2]

Meant to say thanks for the quick rating of Guerrero @ 147 by Sunday morning!

[dragon29]

My exact thoughts on Sunday, as well. Thanks for the nice turnaround time!