Chicago White Sox 2007 Thread - Page 17

MogulChamp · 06-01-2007, 07:11 PM

I feel for Buehrle...

How long has he been going for win #100? Seems like a month.

You're right EJ, I dont think we have any chance at all of catching Detroit or Cleveland. Both look to be much better than us.

The funny thing is that prior to the season, everyone knew what the team needed most: bullpen and outfield help.

This is still our biggest problem. Our bullpen was filled with unproven players and 1 washed up one (Mcdoofus). The outfield wasnt even addressed.

Now we can't hit. The whole team is in a funk, and yet we are stuck with Walker as the hitting coach.

It's going to be a long season im afraid

Goodsox · 06-01-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MogulChamp

I feel for Buehrle...

How long has he been going for win #100? Seems like a month.

You're right EJ, I dont think we have any chance at all of catching Detroit or Cleveland. Both look to be much better than us.

The funny thing is that prior to the season, everyone knew what the team needed most: bullpen and outfield help.

This is still our biggest problem. Our bullpen was filled with unproven players and 1 washed up one (Mcdoofus). The outfield wasnt even addressed.

Now we can't hit. The whole team is in a funk, and yet we are stuck with Walker as the hitting coach.

It's going to be a long season im afraid

It could be worse. Our players could end up hitting eachother like on the North Side

Goodsox · 06-01-2007, 10:58 PM

Wow, nice game by Owens. He definitely was a difference maker in tonight's game. Vazquez pitched one heck of a game.

eriqjaffe · 06-01-2007, 11:07 PM

Yeah, I was impressed with Owens. Small sample size or not, he's now 5 for 11 at the big league level.

It was nice of Good Javy to show up tonight, and Bobby Jenks got used for the first time since the Eisenhower administration.

Goodsox · 06-02-2007, 10:18 PM

Here we go again

The starters need to start pitching complete games or they are going to lose. Everyone knew this bullpen sucked before the season started and KW doesn't seem to get it. Back to the alcohol for me...

eriqjaffe · 06-02-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by subheadline on whitesox.com

Guillen to contact GM Williams about relief situation

Yeah, guys, you might want to get on that.

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Originally Posted by some sobering stats from the same article

The relievers are 2-5 with a 9.06 ERA over their last 21 games. During that stretch, they have walked 37 batters and allowed 77 hits in 50 2/3 innings.

MacDougal now has a 15.00 ERA in his last 11 games. During that span, he has allowed 16 hits and nine walks over six innings.

darkhorse · 06-03-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodsox

The starters need to start pitching complete games or they are going to lose.

Seeing as there were a total of 66 complete games in the entire American League in the 2006 season, good luck with that strategy.

Goodsox · 06-03-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Seeing as there were a total of 66 complete games in the entire American League in the 2006 season, good luck with that strategy.

Yeah, just wishful thinking

Maybe they can trade for an entire new bullpen instead

darkhorse · 06-03-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodsox

Yeah, just wishful thinking

Maybe they can trade for an entire new bullpen instead

Hmmm.....just had a look at the bullpen ranking of the White Sox at BB Prospectus and they are dead last in all of MLB. They're not even pitching at replacement level.

The three other teams with bullpens below replacement level are Tampa Bay, Cincinnati, and the Yankees.

The top five pens, in order, are San Diego, by a sizeable margin over everyone else, Dodgers, Red Sox, Twins, and Braves.

Goodsox · 06-03-2007, 04:32 PM

And it continues...

This is just getting absolutely ridiculous.

Storgers · 06-03-2007, 04:39 PM

The bullpen has been bad and White Sox hitters were 0 for their last 61 vs relief pitchers before Pierzynski's double in the 9th today.

Now they are 1 for their last 65.

eriqjaffe · 06-03-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Storgers

The bullpen has been bad and White Sox hitters were 0 for their last 61 vs relief pitchers before Pierzynski's double in the 9th today.

Now they are 1 for their last 65.

That's right, everybody. MORE THAN TWO CONSECUTIVE GAMES WORTH OF NO-HITTERS.

This was posted on Sox Machine after yesterday's game:

Code:

				AB	H	R	HR	BB	K
Sox hitters vs. relievers	45	0	0	0	3	6
Hitters vs. Sox relievers	57	22	13	1	10	7

Truly, the mind absolutely boggles.

eriqjaffe · 06-03-2007, 10:51 PM

dola,

Rumor I'm hearing is that MacDoofus as AAArdsma are being sent down to AAA to get their heads on straight, and Bret Prinz and Ryan Bukvich are getting called up.

Hooray?

darkhorse · 06-04-2007, 11:18 AM

Reality check: You guys could be Rangers fans. Don't think too hard on that one, it's dangerous for your health/sanity.

eriqjaffe · 06-04-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Reality check: You guys could be Rangers fans. Don't think too hard on that one, it's dangerous for your health/sanity.

Good point.

eriqjaffe · 06-04-2007, 12:40 PM

The bullpen bloodbath is official. Aardsma and MacDougal down, Prinz and Bukvich up:

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=cws

Also, Ozuna has been transferred to the 60-day DL, which isn't a big surprise at all, since a 40-man spot had to be opened up for one of 'em (I think it's Bukvich).

It's probably too much to hope for, but the Sox really should play "Big New Prinz" by The Fall when Bret comes in to pitch.

eriqjaffe · 06-05-2007, 12:51 AM

Ah, a White Sox winner, variant #2:

Starting pitcher pitches very well into the 9th. Crappy bullpen turns a 4-run lead into a save situation, which Bobby "The Only Reliable Guy Here" Jenks converts, thus making the game more nerve-racking then it had to be.

MattH3322 · 06-05-2007, 10:30 AM

I watched the Sox Pride video this morning. I think the players need to watch it so they remember how they played 2 years ago.

eriqjaffe · 06-05-2007, 12:59 PM

Nah, if they watch that, they'll all just go on about how much they miss Aaron Rowand.

Unoriginal Name · 06-06-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

Nah, if they watch that, they'll all just go on about how much they miss Aaron Rowand.

If you listen to certain people that is the reason they haven't won since 2005. Last I checked the Amazing Rowand isn't paying dividends for the Phillies either.

06-01-2007, 10:58 PM	#323
Goodsox Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,866	Wow, nice game by Owens. He definitely was a difference maker in tonight's game. Vazquez pitched one heck of a game. __________________ GoodSox Go White Sox!

06-01-2007, 11:07 PM	#324
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,629	Yeah, I was impressed with Owens. Small sample size or not, he's now 5 for 11 at the big league level. It was nice of Good Javy to show up tonight, and Bobby Jenks got used for the first time since the Eisenhower administration. __________________

06-02-2007, 10:18 PM	#325
Goodsox Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,866	Here we go again The starters need to start pitching complete games or they are going to lose. Everyone knew this bullpen sucked before the season started and KW doesn't seem to get it. Back to the alcohol for me... __________________ GoodSox Go White Sox!

06-03-2007, 04:32 PM	#330
Goodsox Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,866	And it continues... This is just getting absolutely ridiculous. __________________ GoodSox Go White Sox!

06-03-2007, 04:39 PM	#331
Storgers Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 146	The bullpen has been bad and White Sox hitters were 0 for their last 61 vs relief pitchers before Pierzynski's double in the 9th today. Now they are 1 for their last 65. __________________ Formerly Delgadodawg USBA - Boston Pilgrims - '91 and '93 champs Last edited by Storgers; 06-03-2007 at 04:40 PM.

06-01-2007, 07:11 PM	#321
MogulChamp All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 656	I feel for Buehrle... How long has he been going for win #100? Seems like a month. You're right EJ, I dont think we have any chance at all of catching Detroit or Cleveland. Both look to be much better than us. The funny thing is that prior to the season, everyone knew what the team needed most: bullpen and outfield help. This is still our biggest problem. Our bullpen was filled with unproven players and 1 washed up one (Mcdoofus). The outfield wasnt even addressed. Now we can't hit. The whole team is in a funk, and yet we are stuck with Walker as the hitting coach. It's going to be a long season im afraid

06-03-2007, 10:51 PM	#333
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,629	dola, Rumor I'm hearing is that MacDoofus as AAArdsma are being sent down to AAA to get their heads on straight, and Bret Prinz and Ryan Bukvich are getting called up. Hooray? __________________

06-04-2007, 11:18 AM	#334
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	Reality check: You guys could be Rangers fans. Don't think too hard on that one, it's dangerous for your health/sanity. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

06-04-2007, 12:40 PM	#336
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,629	The bullpen bloodbath is official. Aardsma and MacDougal down, Prinz and Bukvich up: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=cws Also, Ozuna has been transferred to the 60-day DL, which isn't a big surprise at all, since a 40-man spot had to be opened up for one of 'em (I think it's Bukvich). It's probably too much to hope for, but the Sox really should play "Big New Prinz" by The Fall when Bret comes in to pitch. __________________ Last edited by eriqjaffe; 06-04-2007 at 12:42 PM.

06-05-2007, 12:51 AM	#337
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,629	Ah, a White Sox winner, variant #2: Starting pitcher pitches very well into the 9th. Crappy bullpen turns a 4-run lead into a save situation, which Bobby "The Only Reliable Guy Here" Jenks converts, thus making the game more nerve-racking then it had to be. __________________

06-05-2007, 10:30 AM	#338
MattH3322 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago area Posts: 752	I watched the Sox Pride video this morning. I think the players need to watch it so they remember how they played 2 years ago. __________________ People say us Irish have a bad reputation for drinking and fighting. It makes me so mad that I want to get drunk and punch someone.

06-05-2007, 12:59 PM	#339
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,629	Nah, if they watch that, they'll all just go on about how much they miss Aaron Rowand. __________________