Competitive balance discussion - Page 16

Whoofe · 11-30-2018, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

And that is the main problem here. They see a guy with certain cards and immediately point fingers. They don't even know whether the guy spent money. He gets blamed anyway. Lots of malicious envy making the rounds.

There is a team in my entry pool that has four perfects and eight diamonds. Did the guy spend money? Probably! But if he was dumb-lucky enough to draw a perfect on Wednesday and sold it for A LOT in the heated market then he could have gotten *a lot* of packs. Enough for four perfects? I don't know.

Malicious envy. Beware.

yeah, ppl need to quit worrying about what others are doing and concentrate on their own team

(I am not immune to the envy, but then I reflect on it, and take above advice)

zrog2000 · 11-30-2018, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Whoofe

yeah, ppl need to quit worrying about what others are doing and concentrate on their own team

(I am not immune to the envy, but then I reflect on it, and take above advice)

It's as if they see the real prize in this game is to win the highest league level before anyone else and if they don't win, they have failed and the game isn't fun. I don't see it that way at all. Just remember that on a long enough timeline, everyone will have a team of perfects and diamonds. I'd rather it take a lot longer because the journey is what is fun, not the end point.

If you win that highest league level first with all perfects and diamonds, then what? Time to quit because there is nothing else to accomplish. Fun game while it lasted for a few weeks. I'll enjoy it for as long as I can. I kind of like not having a stacked team like I had in beta because there is so much more to do. With my stacked team, I barely changed the roster or my lineups or rotation. I'd just login to see how many PP I got that I couldn't do much with because there weren't many upgrade options. So I'd just buy packs and packs and more packs and pull cards that wouldn't upgrade my roster.

captainbuttercream · 11-30-2018, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

This! We are currently debating wether we should start off with 3 levels on Monday, sorted by winning pct from the Entry Pool. This will balance things out from the start. Thoughts?

Edit: It's decided, we'll do it this way.

I actually really like the 3 level system. I saw you closed the other thread before I could clarify my post. My team is just hot garbage right now, so I know I would be going straight to bronze.

It's a good idea.

Whoofe · 11-30-2018, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by captainbuttercream

I actually really like the 3 level system. I saw you closed the other thread before I could clarify my post. My team is just hot garbage right now, so I know I would be going straight to bronze.

It's a good idea.

it was a good idea, but I think the reason ppl were against it is because it wasn't presented that way beforehand.

no one likes rules changes mid-stream

Westheim · 11-30-2018, 09:56 AM

I am now also somewhat miffed that I wrote 1,000 words on pros and cons as requested in the other thread that was closed before I could hit submit.

It's in the void now.

Socali · 11-30-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Whoofe

it was a good idea, but I think the reason ppl were against it is because it wasn't presented that way beforehand.

no one likes rules changes mid-stream

Yeah, i liked it too but Markus made the right decision to renege. This entry pool starting mid-week I haven't had the time to do anything with my team and on auto-pilot...well it ain't pretty. So I had a wry grin when I saw Markus post re:graduating highest level teams to higher levels. Oh well, too bad they didn't think of that beforehand.

Personally, games being simmed every half hour is too much for me BUT it has a great upside....instead of "wait'll next year!"...it is now, wait'll next WEEK! LOL

AirmenSmith · 11-30-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

This! We are currently debating wether we should start off with 3 levels on Monday, sorted by winning pct from the Entry Pool. This will balance things out from the start. Thoughts?

Edit: It's decided, we'll do it this way.

So they tanking begins!!!!

In theory couldn't a P2P player that has nothing but silver/gold/diamond cards tank in the entry pool. Then be placed in the lowest level and then start his real team to get massive achievement points since the competition is a lot worse?

Socali · 11-30-2018, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

So they tanking begins!!!!

In theory couldn't a P2P player that has nothing but silver/gold/diamond cards tank in the entry pool. Then be placed in the lowest level and then start his real team to get massive achievement points since the competition is a lot worse?

Markus changed his mind.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=296037

AirmenSmith · 11-30-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Socali

Markus changed his mind.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=296037

Well then....

Orcin · 11-30-2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

So they tanking begins!!!!

In theory couldn't a P2P player that has nothing but silver/gold/diamond cards tank in the entry pool. Then be placed in the lowest level and then start his real team to get massive achievement points since the competition is a lot worse?

Again, why does someone with a great team need to tank to get a great team? The concept makes no sense. The rewards from doing this over what you could do one or two levels higher are not worth the week(s) it would take.

Dogberry99 · 11-30-2018, 12:10 PM

This issue regarding entry league promotion is putting on display just how much everyone on these forums - EVERYONE, on all side of the issue - complains.

And yes, I recognize and embrace the irony of a complaint against everyone complaining.

stl jason · 11-30-2018, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogberry99

This issue regarding entry league promotion is putting on display just how much everyone on these forums - EVERYONE, on all side of the issue - complains.

And yes, I recognize and embrace the irony of a complaint against everyone complaining.

I'd say yours is more of an observation than a complaint

Dogberry99 · 11-30-2018, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stl jason

I'd say yours is more of an observation than a complaint

But that makes it less funny

acclaim99 · 11-30-2018, 04:30 PM

He is 75-10, pulling a Golden State Warriors record. Good luck to whoever has to face him in the future lol.

CrazyWR · 11-30-2018, 04:35 PM

What a pitching staff, my god

acclaim99 · 11-30-2018, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyWR

What a pitching staff, my god

It's his whole team
-jason kelce

lol

zrog2000 · 11-30-2018, 04:45 PM

Boy that will be fun for about 5 more minutes. What does he do now? See how many PP he can collect without anything to spend it on?

Whoofe · 11-30-2018, 04:45 PM

next 3 teams aren't lookin too bad either in the W/L dept

I think that's the league I am in. happy to have a more or less .500 record with those giants in the league

I imagine some poor guy has to be the punching bag down on the bottom

acclaim99 · 11-30-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Whoofe

next 3 teams aren't lookin too bad either in the W/L dept

I think that's the league I am in. happy to have a more or less .500 record with those giants in the league

I imagine some poor guy has to be the punching bag down on the bottom

What's your team name? Lowest team is 29-57
EDIT - Nvrmnd, looked up user name, no Cedar Rapids in this league.

acclaim99 · 11-30-2018, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Whoofe

next 3 teams aren't lookin too bad either in the W/L dept

I think that's the league I am in. happy to have a more or less .500 record with those giants in the league

I imagine some poor guy has to be the punching bag down on the bottom

I'm almost .500 lol, 41-45

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acclaim99 Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 486	I'm jealous of this guys team in my lg He is 75-10, pulling a Golden State Warriors record. Good luck to whoever has to face him in the future lol.

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Dogberry99 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Posts: 1,328	This issue regarding entry league promotion is putting on display just how much everyone on these forums - EVERYONE, on all side of the issue - complains. And yes, I recognize and embrace the irony of a complaint against everyone complaining.

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CrazyWR All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 549	What a pitching staff, my god

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zrog2000 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,335	Boy that will be fun for about 5 more minutes. What does he do now? See how many PP he can collect without anything to spend it on?

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Whoofe All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 590	next 3 teams aren't lookin too bad either in the W/L dept I think that's the league I am in. happy to have a more or less .500 record with those giants in the league I imagine some poor guy has to be the punching bag down on the bottom