The 2023 NFL Season Thread - Page 14

Ragnar · 10-18-2023, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pilight

No one on the kicking team touched him except the guy that was blocked into him. The receiving team can't be penalized for interfering with their own fair catch.

If you watch the opposite angle, the player on the kicking team does indeed hit him.

Ragnar · 10-18-2023, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

And what drives PR? The corrupt "news" media and shrieking voices on Twitter/X and other social media, neither of which is a real or accurate representative or representation of the public.

As long as businesses don't stand up to this, nothing will change, and they will forever be held hostage by the outrage merchants.

But business never stands up to this. They take the easy way out all the time. Why shouldn't they?

Think about it. Is it that far out of the question that Irvin said some things that he shouldn't have said? Think of the business.

Cobra Mgr · 10-19-2023, 10:41 AM

Tom Brady has the frikkin' nerve to complain the NFL has gotten too soft????!!?

low · 10-19-2023, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Tom Brady has the frikkin' nerve to complain the NFL has gotten too soft????!!?

The irony is completely lost on him.

Ragnar · 10-19-2023, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Tom Brady has the frikkin' nerve to complain the NFL has gotten too soft????!!?

Well of course he's going to complain every time he gets touched, because the refs have set that standard. Look at some of these roughing calls on Allen. Just give QBs a flag already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymUH2FBXWSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfQYul_AQ8U

Any contact with the QB can result in a roughing call. There is no standard.

Cobra Mgr · 10-22-2023, 06:15 PM

I've got a new bet for Vegas to take next time KC plays the Chargers. Who gets shown on TV more: Andy Reid, Taylor Swift, or the crazy lady Chargers fan?

pilight · 10-22-2023, 06:26 PM

CBS is excited that they actually found a Chargers fan

Le Grande Orange · 10-22-2023, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

I've got a new bet for Vegas to take next time KC plays the Chargers. Who gets shown on TV more: Andy Reid, Taylor Swift, or the crazy lady Chargers fan?

Wait, are you saying a football broadcast should stick to showing football?

Cobra Mgr · 10-22-2023, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Wait, are you saying a football broadcast should stick to showing football?

Nope. But I do say tv shouldn't shove ancillary stories down our throat. Football fans tuning into a football broadcast want to see the reaction of football players. If Kelce scores, I can pretty much assume Swift is happy. If the Chargers score, I can pretty much assume the crazy Charger lady is happy. But I want to know how the defense reacts. Did someone miss an assignment? Was the D confused? Did the coach go against the gameplan? Was some one out of position? That is what football fans want to see.

If they were showing a Taylor Swift concert, would they expect fans to want cut ins to Travis dancing in the aisles? No. Swifties want the cameras stuck on stage.

mytreds · 10-24-2023, 02:05 AM

I’m selling on the Niners. Gone from Super Bowl contenders to Wild Card weekenders real quick. Division is Seattle’s to win.

Cobra Mgr · 10-24-2023, 10:46 AM

IDK who to buy or sell. As soon as I was convince Purdy might have something he lost 2 in a row. As soon as I thought the Bills might have righted the ship they played 3 stinkers in a row. As soon as I thought KC's offense could no longer carry them they start winning w/D. Detroit didn't look like they belonged in the same league as the Ravens. At the start of the year did not think Cincy would be in last, Rams would have 3 wins & the Panthers would have zero. The Jets Wilson led offense is better than the Giants'. Somehow, Philly doesn't look as good as last season, yet has one loss. Am I ready to call Baltimore a favorite when Lamar has never won a playoff game?

Syd Thrift · 10-24-2023, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mytreds

I’m selling on the Niners. Gone from Super Bowl contenders to Wild Card weekenders real quick. Division is Seattle’s to win.

I'm a Hawks fan and all but I'll need to see them actually take down the 9ers first. Seattle's defense is really, really coming to play now but at the same time it seems like Geno Smith is going from being a mild asset to a mild detriment. I don't know, that might be a bit much, and they were without DK Metcalf this week. Still, he straight up took points off the board with a really, really dumb pick this week - his 2nd INT in the red zone in the last 2 weeks - and we were very fortunate that the Cardinals' offense was so bad that they could muster just 3 points off of those turnovers (I mean, kiiiind of 6 since the interception prevented the Seahawks from scoring on that drive). And of course the fumble - those things happen but one thing that made Smith stand out last season was that he was a guy who gambled a lot but also managed to not turn the ball over very much. The bloom seems to be coming off that rose.

It's too bad we didn't get a 3rd year of Denver's 1st rounders! The Hawks could have drafted Marcus Penix...

Ragnar · 10-24-2023, 12:38 PM

I love how everyone says Purdy lost his first game when they lost against the Browns. The kicker missed the game winning FG. Are people stupid?

Ragnar · 10-24-2023, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mytreds

I’m selling on the Niners. Gone from Super Bowl contenders to Wild Card weekenders real quick. Division is Seattle’s to win.

The Seahawks are not winning the division. The 49ers are winning the division. They pretty much have a better everything.

damientheomen3 · 10-24-2023, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

I love how everyone says Purdy lost his first game when they lost against the Browns. The kicker missed the game winning FG. Are people stupid?

I mean, yeah, anybody that tries to reduce a team's performance to something as simple as QB wins or losses is being pretty stupid. Purdy was bad for almost the entire Cleveland game, even if the final result came down to a missed field goal that doesn't change that, but that still doesn't mean the loss is completely on him, and it's not like all of his wins as the starting QB are all because of him either.

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I'm a Hawks fan and all but I'll need to see them actually take down the 9ers first. Seattle's defense is really, really coming to play now but at the same time it seems like Geno Smith is going from being a mild asset to a mild detriment. I don't know, that might be a bit much, and they were without DK Metcalf this week. Still, he straight up took points off the board with a really, really dumb pick this week - his 2nd INT in the red zone in the last 2 weeks - and we were very fortunate that the Cardinals' offense was so bad that they could muster just 3 points off of those turnovers (I mean, kiiiind of 6 since the interception prevented the Seahawks from scoring on that drive). And of course the fumble - those things happen but one thing that made Smith stand out last season was that he was a guy who gambled a lot but also managed to not turn the ball over very much. The bloom seems to be coming off that rose.

It's too bad we didn't get a 3rd year of Denver's 1st rounders! The Hawks could have drafted Marcus Penix...

Geno was either 1st or 2nd last season for PFF for most turnover-worthy plays, meaning that he had very strong turnover luck on the year to finish with only 15 turnovers (I think they had him at around 35 turnover-worthy plays). He was also strong in their metric big-time throws, I think top 5, so he still graded well for the season, but it seems like his turnover luck is drying up. The good thing is that the Seahawks didn't have to give him a massive, franchise-QB type deal, so if that stays that way and he ends up hurting the team's chances of being as good as they can be they can get out of the deal pretty easily.

thehef · 10-24-2023, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

I love how everyone says Purdy lost his first game when they lost against the Browns. The kicker missed the game winning FG. Are people stupid?

I think you answered your own question

By my rough calcs, the Chiefs have averaged a tick under 26 points per game in their 18 regular season losses since Mahomes became the starter. Seven of those times they scored 30+ points...

Cobra Mgr · 10-24-2023, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

I love how everyone says Purdy lost his first game when they lost against the Browns. The kicker missed the game winning FG. Are people stupid?

And the Browns had PJ Walker @ QB. As a Panther watcher, I can vouch that makes it much worse.

mytreds · 10-24-2023, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

The Seahawks are not winning the division. The 49ers are winning the division. They pretty much have a better everything.

Maybe. But my gut and eyes says losing to the browns and Vikings are a referendum on the current defense and Shanahan. Seahawks have a spark the Niners do not.

mytreds · 10-24-2023, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I'm a Hawks fan and all but I'll need to see them actually take down the 9ers first. Seattle's defense is really, really coming to play now but at the same time it seems like Geno Smith is going from being a mild asset to a mild detriment. I don't know, that might be a bit much, and they were without DK Metcalf this week. Still, he straight up took points off the board with a really, really dumb pick this week - his 2nd INT in the red zone in the last 2 weeks - and we were very fortunate that the Cardinals' offense was so bad that they could muster just 3 points off of those turnovers (I mean, kiiiind of 6 since the interception prevented the Seahawks from scoring on that drive). And of course the fumble - those things happen but one thing that made Smith stand out last season was that he was a guy who gambled a lot but also managed to not turn the ball over very much. The bloom seems to be coming off that rose.

It's too bad we didn't get a 3rd year of Denver's 1st rounders! The Hawks could have drafted Marcus Penix...

Seattles home field advantage is immense. After watching them flail against the Browns and Vikings, I don’t think this crop of Niners have a chance in Seattle

mytreds · 10-24-2023, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

I love how everyone says Purdy lost his first game when they lost against the Browns. The kicker missed the game winning FG. Are people stupid?

I’m still on the Purdy train. He’s fine. It’s leaky defense and questionable play calling from Shanahan that I’m basing my opinions.

10-19-2023, 10:41 AM	#263
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 7,014	Tom Brady has the frikkin' nerve to complain the NFL has gotten too soft????!!? __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

10-22-2023, 06:15 PM	#266
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 7,014	I've got a new bet for Vegas to take next time KC plays the Chargers. Who gets shown on TV more: Andy Reid, Taylor Swift, or the crazy lady Chargers fan? __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

10-24-2023, 02:05 AM	#270
mytreds All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 1,029	I’m selling on the Niners. Gone from Super Bowl contenders to Wild Card weekenders real quick. Division is Seattle’s to win. __________________ “Baseball isn’t statistics; it’s Joe DiMaggio rounding second.” “Once, centuries ago, it was the beloved national pastime of the Americas, Wesley. Abandoned by a society that prized fast food and faster games. Lost to impatience.” “ The term ‘WAR’ should be replaced by ‘WAG’. WAR isn’t an actual measurement; it’s just a wild-ass guess” -Bill James RIP National League 1876-2022 Floreat semper vel invita morte. I make custom ballparks.

10-24-2023, 10:46 AM	#271
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 7,014	IDK who to buy or sell. As soon as I was convince Purdy might have something he lost 2 in a row. As soon as I thought the Bills might have righted the ship they played 3 stinkers in a row. As soon as I thought KC's offense could no longer carry them they start winning w/D. Detroit didn't look like they belonged in the same league as the Ravens. At the start of the year did not think Cincy would be in last, Rams would have 3 wins & the Panthers would have zero. The Jets Wilson led offense is better than the Giants'. Somehow, Philly doesn't look as good as last season, yet has one loss. Am I ready to call Baltimore a favorite when Lamar has never won a playoff game? __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

10-22-2023, 06:26 PM	#267
pilight All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Action is Posts: 1,879	CBS is excited that they actually found a Chargers fan

10-24-2023, 12:38 PM	#273
Ragnar Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,126	I love how everyone says Purdy lost his first game when they lost against the Browns. The kicker missed the game winning FG. Are people stupid?