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Pelican · 11-03-2022, 03:09 PM

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Not "sometimes" for me. I know I'll get called an old fart but I will own it like Houston owns the Yanks. My eyes rolled so far into the back of my head when they put in a reliever that paramedics had to get a crowbar to lodge back into place.

To be fair, he was completely done. He would not have lasted three more innings, much less allowed no hits. Javier was programmed to throw no more than 100 pitches. And he threw as hard as he could as long as he could, knowing that he would not have to finish. I’m not pleased with it, either, and Larson’s feat is in diminished.

Pelican · 11-03-2022, 03:15 PM

Also, the strike zone last night was pretty much from the shoes to the cap. For both sides. Nola took advantage, too, until he forgot how to pitch in the fifth inning. Up to that point, I figured on a 0-0 game after nine innings. Calling all those low “strikes” really expands the zone, so that hitters are swinging at pitches they shouldn’t. Brings on the robot umpires!

Cobra Mgr · 11-03-2022, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman576

I don't think they deserve any praise when they still have players on their roster from the scandal and there is still a world series banner from 2017 hanging in their stadium.

The Astros scandal reflects on Dusty Baker how exactly?

Amazin69 · 11-03-2022, 04:24 PM

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I think I read somewhere that he's unlikely to pitch again in the series. If true, probably because a) Houston will be sticking with their regular rotation, and b) game 7 would be on three days rest, something he did not do during the regular season. That said, I'm sure he'd be available to pitch in relief for a game seven, but I guess the BlackStros have a pretty deep 'pen...

Two days rest, actually. We lose the travel day because of the rain-out.

Game 5 is tonight. Game 6 is tomorrow in Houston. Game 7, if needed, is Sunday.

Now Sandy Koufax threw a 3-hit shutout on 2 days' rest to win Game 7 in 1965, but it hasn't been 1965 for a while, I'll admit. Javier is dunzo,

Which, again, is why I think they should have gone as long as possible with him. Nothing to save him for, and he was cruising. Abreu, Montero and Pressly are whom Dusty needed to save, and he blew that chance.

Seriously, if Pressly gets lit up tonight and Davis and Smoltz are all "well, he's tired from last night, but what can you do?" I will laugh and laugh.

Bitterly, but still.

dsvitak · 11-03-2022, 04:45 PM

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Two days rest, actually. We lose the travel day because of the rain-out.

Game 5 is tonight. Game 6 is tomorrow in Houston. Game 7, if needed, is Sunday.

Now Sandy Koufax threw a 3-hit shutout on 2 days' rest to win Game 7 in 1965, but it hasn't been 1965 for a while, I'll admit. Javier is dunzo,

Which, again, is why I think they should have gone as long as possible with him. Nothing to save him for, and he was cruising. Abreu, Montero and Pressly are whom Dusty needed to save, and he blew that chance.

Seriously, if Pressly gets lit up tonight and Davis and Smoltz are all "well, he's tired from last night, but what can you do?" I will laugh and laugh.

Bitterly, but still.

I agree. 97 pitches, and this is his last game of the year. Let him pitch until he can't lift his arm.

thehef · 11-03-2022, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazin69

Two days rest, actually.

Yep, that's what I was trying to say/write, but got mixed up... Thanks for clarifying

Westheim · 11-03-2022, 05:14 PM

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Two days rest, actually. We lose the travel day because of the rain-out.

Game 5 is tonight. Game 6 is tomorrow in Houston. Game 7, if needed, is Sunday.

Three days' rest. Today is Thursday. Game 6 is on Saturday.

thehef · 11-03-2022, 05:18 PM

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Three days' rest. Today is Thursday. Game 6 is on Saturday.

Now I'm REALLY mixed up... But yes, that travel day remains in the schedule... So three days rest it is.

Amazin69 · 11-03-2022, 05:52 PM

Yep, I checked the schedule and I STILL got it wrong. Once again proving that Old Know-It-All doesn't know jack. My bad.

(I can't understand it, though. They went to all that trouble make sure Game 7 would be on Saturday [so no NFL conflict]. even going so far as to cancel the travel days in the LDS and LCS. Now, they just push everything back? Weird.)

thehef · 11-03-2022, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman576

I don't think they deserve any praise when they still have players on their roster from the scandal and there is still a world series banner from 2017 hanging in their stadium.

This ^^, but to also pointing out that the players went completely unpunished, ownership was given a light slap on the wrist - which is all puzzy-Manfred's fault - and they were all unrepentant.

Ragnar · 11-03-2022, 06:03 PM

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Now I'm REALLY mixed up... But yes, that travel day remains in the schedule... So three days rest it is.

He pitched on Wednesday. Isn't Sunday 4 days rest?

Now that I think of it, you guys are talking about full days rest.

thehef · 11-03-2022, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

He pitched on Wednesday. Isn't Sunday 4 days rest?

Now that I think of it, you guys are talking about full days rest.

Pitched on Wedsnesday: not a rest day
Thursday - rest day 1
Friday - rest day 2
Saturday - rest day 3
As of Sunday, he will have accumulated 3 days of rest, with Sunday TBD...

Déjà Bru · 11-03-2022, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

The Astros scandal reflects on Dusty Baker how exactly?

Well, I would say. I have respected Baker more in these last few years because it took a considerable amount of guts and skill to take over that mess when he did.

thehef · 11-03-2022, 06:51 PM

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Well, I would say. I have respected Baker more in these last few years because it took a considerable amount of guts and skill to take over that mess when he did.

A cynic might say that Baker's experience at being an apologist for Barry Bonds was preparation for the BlackStros gig

Déjà Bru · 11-03-2022, 06:53 PM

Tonight may be Verlander's last chance to shed his "WS choke artist" image. If he bombs again, it may be a lock and a permanent tarnish on an otherwise brilliant career. He is 15-5 with a 3.04 ERA in career playoff games -- as long as you remove the World Series outings. In those, he is 0-6, 6.07 ERA.

monkeyman576 · 11-03-2022, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

The Astros scandal reflects on Dusty Baker how exactly?

Guilt by association. I'm not going to rah rah someone who is managing a team that is involved in a scandle of that magnitude. He knew there were still players on the roster that were involved and that the punishment was far from adequate. He could have taken a different job if he didn't want to be associated.

thehef · 11-03-2022, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Tonight may be Verlander's last chance to shed his "WS choke artist" image. If he bombs again, it may be a lock and a permanent tarnish on an otherwise brilliant career. He is 15-5 with a 3.04 ERA in career playoff games -- as long as you remove the World Series outings. In those, he is 0-6, 6.07 ERA.

Wonder if he loses the "WS choke artist" image if he goes 5 innings, gives up 4 runs, and gets the win... Given how our sports media loves to take a simplistic approach to narratives, I'm guessing that would do it (end the "choker" image).

cephasjames · 11-03-2022, 07:44 PM

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Wonder if he loses the "WS choke artist" image if he goes 5 innings, gives up 4 runs, and gets the win... Given how our sports media loves to take a simplistic approach to narratives, I'm guessing that would do it (end the "choker" image).

If he gets a win, why wouldn't it? Even if he gives up 17 and gets a win, it's still a win. Winning is what he hasn't done. So, winning would remove the "he hasn't won" label.

Westheim · 11-03-2022, 08:18 PM

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I hate Kyle Schwarber.

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Tonight may be Verlander's last chance to shed his "WS choke artist" image. If he bombs again, it may be a lock and a permanent tarnish on an otherwise brilliant career. He is 15-5 with a 3.04 ERA in career playoff games -- as long as you remove the World Series outings. In those, he is 0-6, 6.07 ERA.

Well...

cephasjames · 11-03-2022, 08:20 PM

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Well...

Verlander's working on keeping that label.

11-03-2022, 03:15 PM	#242
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 2,939	Also, the strike zone last night was pretty much from the shoes to the cap. For both sides. Nola took advantage, too, until he forgot how to pitch in the fifth inning. Up to that point, I figured on a 0-0 game after nine innings. Calling all those low “strikes” really expands the zone, so that hitters are swinging at pitches they shouldn’t. Brings on the robot umpires! __________________ Pelican OOTP 2020-? ”Hard to believe, Harry.”

11-03-2022, 06:53 PM	#255
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,700	Tonight may be Verlander's last chance to shed his "WS choke artist" image. If he bombs again, it may be a lock and a permanent tarnish on an otherwise brilliant career. He is 15-5 with a 3.04 ERA in career playoff games -- as long as you remove the World Series outings. In those, he is 0-6, 6.07 ERA. __________________ - Bru

11-03-2022, 05:52 PM	#249
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,090 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Yep, I checked the schedule and I STILL got it wrong. Once again proving that Old Know-It-All doesn't know jack. My bad. (I can't understand it, though. They went to all that trouble make sure Game 7 would be on Saturday [so no NFL conflict]. even going so far as to cancel the travel days in the LDS and LCS. Now, they just push everything back? Weird.)