"Our League" Season 4--Who Wants To Play Our Way?

[Edster007]

I was looking at a few of Coney Island’s box scores from yesterday. The AI makes some curious moves but if I had the ability to fire him I would have for not making one. Jay Howell comes in to protect a 2-0 lead in the top of the 9th and walks all six batters he faces before finally being removed, probably because he was exhausted not because he couldn’t throw a strike. We ended up dropping the game 5-3. I looked back at the couple of games prior and pen should have had more than enough rested arms to not hang him out to dry.

Maybe I just dont get the analytics


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[Tinkerman]

Originally Posted by Edster007

I was looking at a few of Coney Island’s box scores from yesterday. The AI makes some curious moves but if I had the ability to fire him I would have for not making one. Jay Howell comes in to protect a 2-0 lead in the top of the 9th and walks all six batters he faces before finally being removed, probably because he was exhausted not because he couldn’t throw a strike. We ended up dropping the game 5-3. I looked back at the couple of games prior and pen should have had more than enough rested arms to not hang him out to dry.

I've seen this too many times not to have become suspicious tbh. Looks an awful lot like sabotage. The ai is inclined to run the bullpen in a way that no sane minded human would!

Originally Posted by Stanley Kuppchaser

Waffletown posted a 10-1, record to grab the top spot, while Knockemstiff did what their name implies, recording a 13-3 mark to rise quickly, though they couldn't get by Lemp Ave., which swept their lone three-game series.

Knockemstiff are some crazy SOB's. From 20-20, they went 2-16, then they went 18-5!!! I think the drinking and brawling is affecting their consistency

[HRBaker]

I would second the idea of the OOTP team reviewing bullpen use. I also seen too many times when guys are left in when they obviously can't find the plate - or the entire bullpen is worn out at the same time.

[HRBaker]

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[revmcgator]

Parity has found OL B205. First to last is a 3-game difference, meaning anyone can rise up...or fall down...in the second half of the season.

Cleveland, Gettysburg and Lumberton are all facing relegation at the moment.

[stl jason]

With Keith Foulke struggling in the bullpen, the Waffletown GM decided to make a move and called up a new recruit. Joining the relief squad:

100 - Ron Guidry (1978)

[Stanley Kuppchaser]

The leader board was much the same through July, as Waffletown, 2-1, Lemp Ave., 12-6, and Knockemstiff, 8-6, remained in control of the chase.

[Stanley Kuppchaser]

Originally Posted by Edster007

I was looking at a few of Coney Island’s box scores from yesterday. The AI makes some curious moves but if I had the ability to fire him I would have for not making one. Jay Howell comes in to protect a 2-0 lead in the top of the 9th and walks all six batters he faces before finally being removed, probably because he was exhausted not because he couldn’t throw a strike. We ended up dropping the game 5-3. I looked back at the couple of games prior and pen should have had more than enough rested arms to not hang him out to dry.

Maybe I just dont get the analytics


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I don't think it's you, Ed. I gave up looking at the box scores with any intent of trying to understand how the AI works. I should more correctly say, why it doesn't work. I suspect the inner logic has gotten too clever by a magnitude sufficient to render it kind of loopy, to be kind. That's as opposed to saying, "Effing stupid." Sometimes it seems the teams are shaken up and flung against the wall, whereupon the game engine endeavors to back fill in the results to match the order they landed. How Port Ruppert went from a division winner in gold last year to a cellar dwelling .343, with the only changes being a new 1b against righties (who is doing better than the guy he replaced) and a new DH against lefties (who has only had 35 AB), doesn't seem to me to be something I could solve by a deep dive into whatever "logic" a study of the box scores might reveal. I guess my point is, I don't think there's much one can do.

[Edster007]

Originally Posted by Stanley Kuppchaser

I don't think it's you, Ed. I gave up looking at the box scores with any intent of trying to understand how the AI works. I should more correctly say, why it doesn't work. I suspect the inner logic has gotten too clever by a magnitude sufficient to render it kind of loopy, to be kind. That's as opposed to saying, "Effing stupid." Sometimes it seems the teams are shaken up and flung against the wall, whereupon the game engine endeavors to back fill in the results to match the order they landed. How Port Ruppert went from a division winner in gold last year to a cellar dwelling .343, with the only changes being a new 1b against righties (who is doing better than the guy he replaced) and a new DH against lefties (who has only had 35 AB), doesn't seem to me to be something I could solve by a deep dive into whatever "logic" a study of the box scores might reveal. I guess my point is, I don't think there's much one can do.

To me the OOTP game engine is great for the base game not so great for PT. It's all based on getting the league to season total in all categories. If you put together these PT teams in APBA or Strat you wouldn't see someone batting .344 like Pete Rose is currently in gold because the pitching is too good. While you can say that the pitchers wouldn't be as good because of the better hitters the effect should be slight as Rose hit .303 lifetime. If he loses one or two hits here and there he becomes a .250 hitter pretty quickly which is more likely outcome of the pitcher/hitter confrontation in this setup.

[revmcgator]

Still tight in Bronze, with West Burlington edging into the lead.

OL highlight for the Farmhands was a 10-inning complete game from Slim Jones against Inland Empire. The Wranglers gave up 6 runs in the 10th for the loss.

Until l I looked at that extra-inning game, along with a 16-inning affair the Farmhands won later in the month, I didn't realize PT doesn't use the current "runner on 2nd to start the 10th" MLB rule.

[HRBaker]

Not a good week for the hometeam(s).


Gettysburg (Bronze), Cleveland (Bronze), and Baltimore (Silver) all looking to be relegated. If it wasn't for OL this would be the point I give up and wait till next year.


Unfortunately, however, my OL results aren't much better LOL. Just a bad week all around.


Gettysburg ............46-58..............(OL) 10-11

Cleveland..............46-60..............(OL) 12-10

Baltimore...............47-57..............(OL) 15-13


One thing is certain. Running a team on PPs earned, Drops from Twitch, casual Mission completions and occasional reviews of the AH isn't going to get you far unless you have exceptional luck (which, this year, has been horrendous). Thinking seriously of cutting back next year to only one or two teams so I can focus the time I do spend on PT to fewer rosters.


On the other hand, if I win the lottery, I'll become a Whale. Then again, maybe I'll be too busy to play PT

[Boomcoach]

Originally Posted by HRBaker

One thing is certain. Running a team on PPs earned, Drops from Twitch, casual Mission completions and occasional reviews of the AH isn't going to get you far unless you have exceptional luck (which, this year, has been horrendous). Thinking seriously of cutting back next year to only one or two teams so I can focus the time I do spend on PT to fewer rosters.

On the other hand, if I win the lottery, I'll become a Whale. Then again, maybe I'll be too busy to play PT

I think I am starting to get a better feel for how I can enjoy PT this year. I did my first theme team and am enjoying it a lot. I will probably do a couple themes next year.

I made the mistake of deciding to throw some money at one of my teams and realized that throwing a little money is very much a short term buzz. I cannot continue to put in whale levels of money. I ended up with a team that completed a few missions faster than my other 2 teams, but other than that, it is now pretty much at the same levels as my other teams, but I can no longer join OL with it and I find myself leaving it to run itself more than my other two. I won't make that mistake again.

[Infinity]

Originally Posted by Stanley Kuppchaser

Welcome aboard! I have found your team, the San Francisco Giants, in rookie 55. Please edit your team name so the -OL comes at the end of the Giants, i.e. San Francisco Giants -ol. Also, please add a + to the end of your team's abbreviation, a la SFG+. It makes it easier to find them on the schedule. Finally, please post your team's logo so it can be used for future award placement. If you want help with making one, just throw out some ideas and somebody will help. Again, welcome aboard.

Done and Done and here's the logo

[IanIachimoe]

any ideas on how to stop the bleeding? not sure I've ever seen one go on this long. from 2nd best in the league to being run out of it...

[ColbyVargas]

Originally Posted by IanIachimoe

any ideas on how to stop the bleeding? not sure I've ever seen one go on this long. from 2nd best in the league to being run out of it...

I remember this happening last year as well. As more powerful cards come out, the spenders (trying to move beyond the cetacea-insensitive "whale" pejorative) make it very difficult to keep swimming in the top leagues. I was a couple of wins away from Perfect (hum the tune of "Glory Days" everybody) a few weeks ago, but was chased out of Diamond soon thereafter. I'm assuming some of the best cards from last night will continue this trend. The content release strategy makes good sense, just makes FTP a tougher strategy as the year progresses.

On the happier side, as an FTP player you aren't spending money on these computer models of historical players, and are instead saving it for (choose answer that best applies):

a. other computer simulations (Jai-Alai, Steeplechase?).
b. rent.
c. merchandise for teams that don't exist anymore.
d. pain meds, for a problem resulting from hunching over your computer too long.

[HRBaker]

Originally Posted by ColbyVargas

I remember this happening last year as well. As more powerful cards come out, the spenders (trying to move beyond the cetacea-insensitive "whale" pejorative) make it very difficult to keep swimming in the top leagues.

This.


As I said in my "Too Soon - Too Fast" post, the release of the "superman" cards this early in the game year might increase profits for OOTP from the heavy investers, but at the cost of leaving everyone else in the dust. It sure would be nice if at this point in the game year (4 months into it) we were still using Gold Cards as our best-line players.

[Edster007]

Coney Islands cards and coffee yielded a perfect Zack Wheeler, another Shane Bieber, a live gold and couple of sellable historic silvers and a historic gold that are all part of missions I have no intention of completing. I put Ginger Beaumont and George Uhle up for auction from my reserve roster. The points raised will get reinvested into the pitching staff based on best available vs. cost.

[Stanley Kuppchaser]

The Syrups remain on top as the calendar turns to September, but all four top contenders have a busy month ahead, with Cary re-joining the fray after a couple of months on the sidelines. All four teams have at least seven OL games yet to play, so the race is wide open.

[stl jason]

not a bad little pack.... though even Clemens might hit the AH to see if I can convert him into a nice chunk of points to put towards other things

[IanIachimoe]

just got in. will check on my team & update the OL Diamond standings if not already done. will take a bit as I tossed the paper I used mid-season.