A Fictional Fling beginning in 1961

[Brad K]

I know everyone wants to beat the Yankees in the WS but it's something only NL teams can do. LOL.

[David Watts]

Spring Training strikes again. Ugh! Bob Gibson and Hank Aaron both go down with season ending injuries before the season even gets underway.

[David Watts]

The Twins added Al Kaline and Willie Mays during the offseason. Mays is still playing CF, even though his fielding ratings have decreased significantly. I think he's a orange 30 now.

The pre-season predictions have the Yankees winning 105 games in 1967. The San Francisco Giants are picked to win the NL. I was surprised to see the Pirates picked to finish 2nd, after losing Bob Gibson and Earl Francis in Spring Training.

Willie Horton finished the 66 season hitting .333 with 50 home runs and 100+ RBI. His .333 average tied him with Rod Carew for best in the AL, but the game awarded the batting title to Carew, so I'm guessing he was slightly ahead overall. Horton would once again be snubbed for the leagues MVP award, losing out to Boston's Rico Petrocelli. Sometimes I wish there was a way to turn off WAR during periods that it didn't exist. I'm guessing Horton isn't that great in the field, as his WAR was way lower than Rico's.

WAR also played a roll in the NL Cy Young race. Ken Johnson of the Pirates took home the award even though he was only 13-12 on the season. Meanwhile Dock Ellis of the Giants won 20+ games with less than 10 losses on the season.

[David Watts]

Hoping 1967 is a comeback year for the Cubs Billy Williams. Billy spent significant time on the IL in 1966 and never really got things going at the plate. He's healthy to start 67, so maybe he can return to MVP form.

[David Watts]

Not sure I want to keep this league going anymore. I'm up to June 7th 1967 and Lou Brock only has 2 stolen bases. Maury Wills the same. Lou Brock not stealing bases is pretty much a game breaker. Kind of like playing the early 2000's and having Barry Bonds hit 3 or 4 home runs a season. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. It's probably back to recalc for me.

[Brad K]

So they broke something else.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Brad K

So they broke something else.

The league totals for steals are very accurate.

[David Watts]

Definitely looking like a product of no recalc. Same setup. League begins in 1961, 1 year recalc, development turned off. First season top stolen base guy has 40 stolen bases, followed by 36. 1962 Dick Howser leads AL with 63 followed by Chuck Hinton with 33. National League is led by Maury Wills with 81, followed by Willie Davis with 40.

[Reed]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Definitely looking like a product of no recalc. Same setup. League begins in 1961, 1 year recalc, development turned off. First season top stolen base guy has 40 stolen bases, followed by 36. 1962 Dick Howser leads AL with 63 followed by Chuck Hinton with 33. National League is led by Maury Wills with 81, followed by Willie Davis with 40.

I still can’t figure out why SBs for good base stealers would take such a hard hit. Another reason not to play using just development I suppose. Along with good players in their mid 30s like Aaron and Mays take a hard hit with just development on.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Reed

I still can’t figure out why SBs for good base stealers would take such a hard hit. Another reason not to play using just development I suppose. Along with good players in their mid 30s like Aaron and Mays take a hard hit with just development on.

It makes no sense. They changed the origin of the ratings. How could this have anything to do with how the engine uses the ratings?

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Definitely looking like a product of no recalc. Same setup. League begins in 1961, 1 year recalc, development turned off. First season top stolen base guy has 40 stolen bases, followed by 36. 1962 Dick Howser leads AL with 63 followed by Chuck Hinton with 33. National League is led by Maury Wills with 81, followed by Willie Davis with 40.

This is so difficult to believe as an accidental event that it could start a rumor of a saboteur among the devs.

[Bill Veeck]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Not sure I want to keep this league going anymore. I'm up to June 7th 1967 and Lou Brock only has 2 stolen bases. Maury Wills the same. Lou Brock not stealing bases is pretty much a game breaker. Kind of like playing the early 2000's and having Barry Bonds hit 3 or 4 home runs a season. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. It's probably back to recalc for me.

Was hoping to see this continue but understand. I decided to run 1961 forward with 1 TCR - having never used the development engine - just been a user of recalc. Thought I might follow it up with 100 TCR and 200 TCR - 1961-1975, but got bogged down in how interesting 1962 and 1963 were.

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by Brad K

The value of OBP wasn't understood during these years. But with today's understanding the Reds got a steal on the trade even if Morgan hadn't turned into a HR hitter.

November 29, 1971: Traded by the Houston Astros with Ed Armbrister, Jack Billingham, César Gerónimo and Denis Menke to the Cincinnati Reds for Tommy Helms, Lee May and Jimmy Stewart.

Helms did have 2 GG prior to trade and 2 AS appearences earlier.
Morgan and Helms had about the same avg. Morgan tore up the bases, Helmes didn't.

Try to get Morgan Peak seasons to work after 30. A peak season is Peak season. It shouldn't matter what year you import him (player) the Peak should be the same. I definitely doesn't work after 29. And sometimes works if you import under the age.

I guess real life had TCR swing positive for morgan and negative for helmes after the trade : )