Career ending injury!!

Steve G · 02-15-2002, 02:07 AM

Ouch! I had a pitcher blow a rotator cuff and suffer a career ending injury. Other than the fact that I was counting on this guy as a #2 or #3 starter the next several years, the crappy thing is that he is signed for something like $1.3 million per year for the next 4 years.

I'm not sure I understand the ramifications of cutting him and baically paying him off vs. just keeping him around on the dl until the contract ends. If I cut him this year and take the loss, would that increase my budget for free agents next year? What do you folks normally do in these situations?

I need one of those insurance policies that the Reds took out on Jose Rijo way back when...when he got hurt, the insurance company made good the salary. Will we see this in OOTP4?

batman · 02-15-2002, 02:47 AM

When this has happened to me, I placed the "victim" on the DL and at the end of the season, he voluntarily retired. There didn't seem to be any financial ramifications. The debt obligation retired with him.

Batman

Hammer755 · 02-15-2002, 03:18 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Steve G:
I'm not sure I understand the ramifications of cutting him and baically paying him off vs. just keeping him around on the dl until the contract ends. If I cut him this year and take the loss, would that increase my budget for free agents next year? What do you folks normally do in these situations?<hr></blockquote>

Yes, Bruce Wayne, errr, Batman is correct with his answer. Do not release the player, but put him on your DL. He will retire at the end of the year regardless of where he is, but if you release him you will take a cash hit of the entire amount of his contract. However, if he retires from your team, you are absolved from the remainder of the deal.

spleen1015 · 02-15-2002, 06:23 AM

Maybe you should cut the guy so he can get all of his money. He might have a family to take care of and need the money.

Steve G · 02-15-2002, 09:41 AM

[quote]Originally posted by spleen1015:
Maybe you should cut the guy so he can get all of his money. He might have a family to take care of and need the money.<hr></blockquote>

Naw, if he's man enough to retire and not take money he hasn't earned, I'm not going to force it on him. If he needs the cash that badly, we can talk about a coaching position.

alhill · 02-15-2002, 01:01 PM

Depending on your sense of fair play, you can also trade the player to another team. This way you get rid of the salary and you get a good player to compensate you for your loss.

hellfrozeover · 02-15-2002, 02:08 PM

Computer doesn't bother to check for injuries....but I see that as cheating.

Specs · 02-15-2002, 02:22 PM

[quote]Originally posted by hellfrozeover:
Computer doesn't bother to check for injuries....but I see that as cheating.

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If you want to make yourself feel less guilty, trade for a player who's out of the season, or edit your new guy to out for the season...

PSUColonel · 02-15-2002, 03:12 PM

hmm.. maybe these loopholes(cheats) should be fixed

hellfrozeover · 02-15-2002, 07:27 PM

Yeah it would be nice, but the computer won't offer injured players, so the only problem comes with human players who want to cheat the computer by offering those kinds of bad deals. I don't see it necessary because people who are going to cheat will anyway and if you're not going to cheat, it doesn't matter because then you won't screw the computer that way. It doesn't bother me one way or another of someone else just wants to win at all costs even if it means taking advantage of loopholes, I don't intend on doing it, but I'm not going to try and stop anyone from doing it.

02-15-2002, 02:07 AM	#1
Steve G Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 157	Career ending injury!! Ouch! I had a pitcher blow a rotator cuff and suffer a career ending injury. Other than the fact that I was counting on this guy as a #2 or #3 starter the next several years, the crappy thing is that he is signed for something like $1.3 million per year for the next 4 years. I'm not sure I understand the ramifications of cutting him and baically paying him off vs. just keeping him around on the dl until the contract ends. If I cut him this year and take the loss, would that increase my budget for free agents next year? What do you folks normally do in these situations? I need one of those insurance policies that the Reds took out on Jose Rijo way back when...when he got hurt, the insurance company made good the salary. Will we see this in OOTP4?

02-15-2002, 09:41 AM	#5
Steve G Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 157	[quote]Originally posted by spleen1015: <strong>Maybe you should cut the guy so he can get all of his money. He might have a family to take care of and need the money.</strong><hr></blockquote> Naw, if he's man enough to retire and not take money he hasn't earned, I'm not going to force it on him. If he needs the cash that badly, we can talk about a coaching position.

02-15-2002, 02:08 PM	#7
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Computer doesn't bother to check for injuries....but I see that as cheating. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

02-15-2002, 07:27 PM	#10
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Yeah it would be nice, but the computer won't offer injured players, so the only problem comes with human players who want to cheat the computer by offering those kinds of bad deals. I don't see it necessary because people who are going to cheat will anyway and if you're not going to cheat, it doesn't matter because then you won't screw the computer that way. It doesn't bother me one way or another of someone else just wants to win at all costs even if it means taking advantage of loopholes, I don't intend on doing it, but I'm not going to try and stop anyone from doing it. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

02-15-2002, 02:47 AM	#2
batman Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Maine Posts: 9	When this has happened to me, I placed the "victim" on the DL and at the end of the season, he voluntarily retired. There didn't seem to be any financial ramifications. The debt obligation retired with him. Batman

02-15-2002, 03:18 AM	#3
Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,348	[quote]Originally posted by Steve G: <strong>I'm not sure I understand the ramifications of cutting him and baically paying him off vs. just keeping him around on the dl until the contract ends. If I cut him this year and take the loss, would that increase my budget for free agents next year? What do you folks normally do in these situations?</strong><hr></blockquote> Yes, Bruce Wayne, errr, Batman is correct with his answer. Do not release the player, but put him on your DL. He will retire at the end of the year regardless of where he is, but if you release him you will take a cash hit of the entire amount of his contract. However, if he retires from your team, you are absolved from the remainder of the deal.

02-15-2002, 06:23 AM	#4
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,008	Maybe you should cut the guy so he can get all of his money. He might have a family to take care of and need the money.

02-15-2002, 01:01 PM	#6
alhill Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 79	Depending on your sense of fair play, you can also trade the player to another team. This way you get rid of the salary and you get a good player to compensate you for your loss.

02-15-2002, 03:12 PM	#9
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,143	hmm.. maybe these loopholes(cheats) should be fixed