Suggestion for "League of Champions" - Page 2

Steve T · 01-01-2005, 12:15 PM

Like I said..if you need any help with running this, let me know.

Cyclone792 · 01-01-2005, 01:24 PM

Just a couple more things to point out...

I recently mentioned in another thread that it'd be phenomenal to participate in a league with 40 premier owners and this type of league seems like a great blueprint for actually being able to make that happen. You could just make it all fictional, allow owners to name their own teams to make it more personal, etc.

Plenty of leagues I'm in actually have multiple owners who would fit the bill so it maybe wouldn't be a bad idea to expand the league reps to perhaps two per league (or possibly even three if there was open spots). For example, if it was expanded to two owners per league with 40 teams, you could split each league's owner reps into separate leagues within the league (i.e. AL/NL). Obviously, what would determine that would be how much broad interest this league would generate... if there's only room for one rep per league to participate then that's all there'd be.

I'm just throwing some ideas out as they pop in my head... the general idea seems great.

potatoman · 01-01-2005, 01:42 PM

Well, I never kept track of all the leagues I've been in. I've narrowed it down to one league for now, I hope I can get in. I do think my team has had the most success in the GFBL anyway. Atleast the most success under 1 GM.

Also, I'd suggest a TALENT only league. More of a challange for top notch GMs!

allstar50 · 01-01-2005, 01:42 PM

This does seem great idea. Im guessing fictional would be the best way to go. But otherise how would the rules be created? IE.. All these league's have there own little quirks that make them great. Would the commish (if there were just 1) make them up himself or would there be some sort of "committee" or vote.

Whatever the case may be, Id be willing to help in any way possible

Steve T · 01-01-2005, 01:52 PM

I, too, think fictional would be the way to go. I would say some sort of committee would be the best way to go, if Stacy wanted to make this more of a 'community' thing.

I would not be interested in participating as a GM in this league, but I would be interested in helping out with setting it up, and with running it. My e-mail is matrey7@ptd.net if you need to talk to me[or, PM me].

PurdueBrad · 01-01-2005, 03:22 PM

I think this is a terrific idea as well and have posted a link to this thread in the USBA Forum as a means of spreading the message. Good luck and I hope to see a USBA rep included when this takes off.

allstar50 · 01-01-2005, 03:32 PM

Perhaps a 3 man commish team. Each with a defined role. As we all know having ONE GUY shoulder everything is a lot to ask.

Maybe one do the simming, one recruit and write articles, and another handle the financials and track trades, etc I would volunteer to be one (i know, who asked me).

A 3 man team would also work as there would be no "dictator" in any league disputes, not that that ever happens

Steve T · 01-01-2005, 03:36 PM

Good idea, and I would also volunteer to be one of the commishes.

tibbotobbins · 01-01-2005, 04:41 PM

Yeah, 3 Person Board would keep things even.

potatoman · 01-01-2005, 05:36 PM

Let's get this started...

allstar50 · 01-01-2005, 05:38 PM

More of my 2 cents ...

I would suggest a 16 or 20 team league (24 if there was a TON of interest, but no more)... The reason is while these are supposed to be the best of the best, real life still intervines and replacements are going to happen. Also if it does well you can always expand later.

It might be neat if each team could create player (name, position, everything) based on a set point alotment. Setting stadium features would also be great. I like the idea of starting after the draft (IE, with a set team). I think this forces owners to be a little more creative if you werent dealt something ideal (by you drafting the team).

So the real question is, how do you get the ball rolling?

Steve T · 01-01-2005, 05:46 PM

Well, that is up to Stacy. Stacy has the web space, so we need to get a website rolling.

I think we should start off with 20 teams, and be very picky when selecting GMs. We need to make sure to only select the best, of the best. We should def. start hiring GMs, after we have had the computer do a fanatasy draft. That way, we can see how good these GMs really are.

Each league should nominate a couple GMs, with the GMs permission of course, and then we could select from that.

This idea has a lot of potential. We need to get things rolling with a website.

potatoman · 01-01-2005, 05:47 PM

Possibly we can have 2 - 3 GMs from each league join all working together one one team. We can probably try to simulate real life, each GM will have a certain role. 1 will be the GM, 1 will be heard scouting director (or maybe 1 for batting scouts and 1 for pitching scouts) and then 1 manager.

For this to work good, we could set up the league with NO RATINGs at all and we'd have to judge players by stats.

When all said and done, we'll be able to see which league has the best GMs

allstar50 · 01-01-2005, 06:04 PM

Potatoman.... The 2-3 GM Per team idea, while sounding good, im not sure it would work.. If the 3 were good friends and talked often, etc then it might, but otherwise i think you would get a lot of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing etc.

Steve T · 01-01-2005, 06:10 PM

Yeah..I have the same feeling. With that many people working together, problems are going to arise. I know when I am running a team, I like having full control over every aspect.

pallison14 · 01-01-2005, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czzccr

Think it's a great idea. Count the NGBL in if you decide to kick this off.

:whathesaid:

Sounds like a great idea, and I'd defeintly be interested in contributing an owner to this league if/when Stacy gets it kicked off.

RBLwebguy · 01-01-2005, 08:36 PM

Better still, an idea could see fictional leagues take their best players (vote by league) and compete against other fictional leagues top stars....

potatoman · 01-01-2005, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBLwebguy

Better still, an idea could see fictional leagues take their best players (vote by league) and compete against other fictional leagues top stars....

Ah, this was done before by the infamous CUSS!

Steve T · 01-01-2005, 09:21 PM

We are generating a lot of good ideas for this league, and I think it really could be a success. Cant wait to get started!

RBLwebguy · 01-01-2005, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potatoman

Ah, this was done before by the infamous CUSS!

hmmm didn't realize this was done before

01-01-2005, 01:24 PM	#22
Cyclone792 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 572	Just a couple more things to point out... I recently mentioned in another thread that it'd be phenomenal to participate in a league with 40 premier owners and this type of league seems like a great blueprint for actually being able to make that happen. You could just make it all fictional, allow owners to name their own teams to make it more personal, etc. Plenty of leagues I'm in actually have multiple owners who would fit the bill so it maybe wouldn't be a bad idea to expand the league reps to perhaps two per league (or possibly even three if there was open spots). For example, if it was expanded to two owners per league with 40 teams, you could split each league's owner reps into separate leagues within the league (i.e. AL/NL). Obviously, what would determine that would be how much broad interest this league would generate... if there's only room for one rep per league to participate then that's all there'd be. I'm just throwing some ideas out as they pop in my head... the general idea seems great. __________________ Jason POTD: Co-Commish and Glacier Bay Ice Pirates

01-01-2005, 01:42 PM	#23
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Well, I never kept track of all the leagues I've been in. I've narrowed it down to one league for now, I hope I can get in. I do think my team has had the most success in the GFBL anyway. Atleast the most success under 1 GM. Also, I'd suggest a TALENT only league. More of a challange for top notch GMs! __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

01-01-2005, 03:22 PM	#26
PurdueBrad All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 871	I think this is a terrific idea as well and have posted a link to this thread in the USBA Forum as a means of spreading the message. Good luck and I hope to see a USBA rep included when this takes off. __________________

01-01-2005, 03:32 PM	#27
allstar50 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 61	Perhaps a 3 man commish team. Each with a defined role. As we all know having ONE GUY shoulder everything is a lot to ask. Maybe one do the simming, one recruit and write articles, and another handle the financials and track trades, etc I would volunteer to be one (i know, who asked me). A 3 man team would also work as there would be no "dictator" in any league disputes, not that that ever happens __________________ Nick Co-Commish - WBF - Bangkok Blaze - www.wbfbaseball.com Maelstrom - Cin Reds - www.baseballmaelstrom.com TSTBL - Long Island Ducks - 8 Divison Champs, 3 WS, 2014 Champion - www.brentkick.com/tstbl/reference/teams/li/index.htm

01-01-2005, 05:36 PM	#30
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Let's get this started... __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

01-01-2005, 12:15 PM	#21
Steve T Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pocono Mountains, PA Posts: 346	Like I said..if you need any help with running this, let me know.

01-01-2005, 01:52 PM	#25
Steve T Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pocono Mountains, PA Posts: 346	I, too, think fictional would be the way to go. I would say some sort of committee would be the best way to go, if Stacy wanted to make this more of a 'community' thing. I would not be interested in participating as a GM in this league, but I would be interested in helping out with setting it up, and with running it. My e-mail is matrey7@ptd.net if you need to talk to me[or, PM me].

01-01-2005, 03:36 PM	#28
Steve T Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pocono Mountains, PA Posts: 346	Good idea, and I would also volunteer to be one of the commishes.

01-01-2005, 04:41 PM	#29
tibbotobbins Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 66	Yeah, 3 Person Board would keep things even.

01-01-2005, 05:38 PM	#31
allstar50 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 61	More thoughts.... like anyone cares... More of my 2 cents ... I would suggest a 16 or 20 team league (24 if there was a TON of interest, but no more)... The reason is while these are supposed to be the best of the best, real life still intervines and replacements are going to happen. Also if it does well you can always expand later. It might be neat if each team could create player (name, position, everything) based on a set point alotment. Setting stadium features would also be great. I like the idea of starting after the draft (IE, with a set team). I think this forces owners to be a little more creative if you werent dealt something ideal (by you drafting the team). So the real question is, how do you get the ball rolling? __________________ Nick Co-Commish - WBF - Bangkok Blaze - www.wbfbaseball.com Maelstrom - Cin Reds - www.baseballmaelstrom.com TSTBL - Long Island Ducks - 8 Divison Champs, 3 WS, 2014 Champion - www.brentkick.com/tstbl/reference/teams/li/index.htm

01-01-2005, 05:46 PM	#32
Steve T Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pocono Mountains, PA Posts: 346	Well, that is up to Stacy. Stacy has the web space, so we need to get a website rolling. I think we should start off with 20 teams, and be very picky when selecting GMs. We need to make sure to only select the best, of the best. We should def. start hiring GMs, after we have had the computer do a fanatasy draft. That way, we can see how good these GMs really are. Each league should nominate a couple GMs, with the GMs permission of course, and then we could select from that. This idea has a lot of potential. We need to get things rolling with a website. Last edited by Steve T; 01-01-2005 at 05:49 PM.

01-01-2005, 05:47 PM	#33
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Possibly we can have 2 - 3 GMs from each league join all working together one one team. We can probably try to simulate real life, each GM will have a certain role. 1 will be the GM, 1 will be heard scouting director (or maybe 1 for batting scouts and 1 for pitching scouts) and then 1 manager. For this to work good, we could set up the league with NO RATINGs at all and we'd have to judge players by stats. When all said and done, we'll be able to see which league has the best GMs __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

01-01-2005, 06:04 PM	#34
allstar50 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 61	Potatoman.... The 2-3 GM Per team idea, while sounding good, im not sure it would work.. If the 3 were good friends and talked often, etc then it might, but otherwise i think you would get a lot of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing etc. __________________ Nick Co-Commish - WBF - Bangkok Blaze - www.wbfbaseball.com Maelstrom - Cin Reds - www.baseballmaelstrom.com TSTBL - Long Island Ducks - 8 Divison Champs, 3 WS, 2014 Champion - www.brentkick.com/tstbl/reference/teams/li/index.htm

01-01-2005, 06:10 PM	#35
Steve T Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pocono Mountains, PA Posts: 346	Yeah..I have the same feeling. With that many people working together, problems are going to arise. I know when I am running a team, I like having full control over every aspect.

01-01-2005, 08:36 PM	#37
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	Better still, an idea could see fictional leagues take their best players (vote by league) and compete against other fictional leagues top stars....

01-01-2005, 09:21 PM	#39
Steve T Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pocono Mountains, PA Posts: 346	We are generating a lot of good ideas for this league, and I think it really could be a success. Cant wait to get started!