Screen resolution

JHDOhio · 02-14-2002, 02:48 PM

I have a laptop and the highest resolution it goes to is 800 * 600 and since I'm a newbie I just downloaded the demo to ootp3 and the letters were almost illegible.My question is does this game only work on newer video cards because i searched the web for updates but none were made . I'll be very pissed if this means i can't get ootp4 why cant they make it 800 * 600 compatible

JHDOhio · 02-14-2002, 03:34 PM

Can no one answer my question?

bigmike75th · 02-14-2002, 03:44 PM

I'm afraid me and you are in the same boat buddy, we cant run the game, i guess the game isnt configured to run on the 800 x 600.

Draft Dodger · 02-14-2002, 03:47 PM

worked fine for me on my laptop in 800x600.

try turning off 3d acceleration.

bigmike75th · 02-14-2002, 03:49 PM

If youre referring to the options in graphics setup where it says Direct 3D enabled/disabled I tried it to no avail.

Draft Dodger · 02-14-2002, 03:57 PM

not necessarily a solid answer here, but some relevant discussion anyway...

<a href="http://www.forumplanet.com/sportplanet/ootp3/topic.asp?fid=3666&tid=325148" target="_blank">Click me or don't; it's really your choice</a>

bigmike75th · 02-14-2002, 04:03 PM

Actually yeah I was looking for that topic earlier, I'm assuming from Markus's earlier post that this issue has not been adressed and it will not run on 800 x 600, apparently this must be a difficult issue to correct or I'm sure he would have implemented it in this year's edition, OOTP5 maybe?????? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Steve Kuffrey · 02-14-2002, 04:06 PM

It appears to possibly be video card specific as some are able to and others are not. With so many options it is just hard to test for all. I had an older laptop and it worked on that rez for me. Fairly certain if you d/l and purchase the game and it does not work you can get a refund.

JML · 02-14-2002, 04:15 PM

Maybe it's a laptop thing, because when I had my desktop monitor set at 800*600, OOTP looked fine IN FULL SCREEN MODE, as opposed to windowed mode. With OOTP in a window I had the problem you guys are having.

bigmike75th · 02-14-2002, 04:22 PM

Yeah I may try that route Steve d/l it and if it doesnt work try for the refund, I'd LOVE to be able to run this game but if not I suppose I'll get over it. The thing thats peeving me right now is missing nearly the entire baseball season on my May through September deployment!!!!

JML · 02-14-2002, 04:26 PM

ATTENTION: I am NOT a moron.

I just have a tendency to skim over posts a little too fast.

[ February 14, 2002: Message edited by: JML ]</p>

bigmike75th · 02-14-2002, 04:31 PM

Huh?

dpwoodford · 02-15-2002, 03:37 AM

The reason that it's not been fixed (from the first or second post) is that it would just cost too much to fix (too many combinations) and the cost would outweigh the revenue of the people who could now use it..

davep1967 · 02-15-2002, 04:38 AM

[quote]Originally posted by JHDOhio:
<strong>Can no one answer my question?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Turn off that HUGE pic in your signature!!!! How annoying.

Henry · 02-15-2002, 05:13 AM

Unfortunately, the explanation of the screen resolution problem I wrote last year got lost when the original board went down. Without trying to write all that again, for what it's worth, let me offer this.

1st: Not all 800x600 machines have a problem. It depends entirely of the way the drivers were written, when they were written, and how that compares to the environment Markus is developing in. To expect Markus to buy/lease all the combinations necessary to do effective testing is simply too much. Large corporations (3DO, etc) have the resources to do that.

2nd: Looking at resolutions, 800x600 is truly on it's way out - in favor of 1024x768 and above. To provide some justification of this, I looked at the counter details from those that visit my website (BigCityBaseball) and found the following;

Since December 1st 2001 :

1600x1200 55 visitors
1280x1024 932 visitors
1152x864 204 visitors
1024x768 3,586 visitors
800x600 1,265 visitors
640x480 32 visitors
"other" 229 visitors

As you can see, 800x600 represents about 20% of the total - and considering that most of my visitors are "probably" OOTP owners, I would think many of those 800x600 individuals can use OOTP just fine.

The major thing that can be summarized from the numbers, however, is that a full 75% of this group is already at 1024x768 or higher.

For Markus to spend any effort on the other 25%, when many of them will be replacing their machines over the next 12 months - doesn't make much business sense.

I hope this helps, and was only provided to help explain the issue

Draft Dodger · 02-15-2002, 08:39 AM

yes, Henry - but the real question is...Do you know what I was wearing when I visited.

hellfrozeover · 02-15-2002, 02:39 PM

Hopefully not what the person in the pic is wearing....unless you two are part of a larger entity in a symbiotic relationship....*x-files music*. Ohhh yeah, I need a lot more sleep.

Henry · 02-16-2002, 04:27 PM

Since someone asked....
Visitor's attire since December 1st 2001 :

Shirt/slacks 3,586 visitors
sportswear 1,265 visitors
robe/pajamas 932 visitors
underwear 204 visitors
blouse/skirt/dress 55 visitors (1 male)
naked 32 visitors

[ February 16, 2002: Message edited by: Henry ]</p>

Specs · 02-16-2002, 04:34 PM

Umm... I just got up... I was changing my boxers... *runs away ashamed*

Mike D · 02-16-2002, 04:37 PM

well, if you can find out what visitors are wearing, I better start wearing clothes

02-14-2002, 02:48 PM	#1
JHDOhio Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	Screen resolution I have a laptop and the highest resolution it goes to is 800 * 600 and since I'm a newbie I just downloaded the demo to ootp3 and the letters were almost illegible.My question is does this game only work on newer video cards because i searched the web for updates but none were made . I'll be very pissed if this means i can't get ootp4 why cant they make it 800 * 600 compatible __________________ DaMn!

02-14-2002, 03:34 PM	#2
JHDOhio Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 10	Can no one answer my question? __________________ DaMn!

02-14-2002, 03:47 PM	#4
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	worked fine for me on my laptop in 800x600. try turning off 3d acceleration. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

02-14-2002, 03:57 PM	#6
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	not necessarily a solid answer here, but some relevant discussion anyway... <a href="http://www.forumplanet.com/sportplanet/ootp3/topic.asp?fid=3666&tid=325148" target="_blank">Click me or don't; it's really your choice</a> __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

02-14-2002, 04:06 PM	#8
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	It appears to possibly be video card specific as some are able to and others are not. With so many options it is just hard to test for all. I had an older laptop and it worked on that rez for me. Fairly certain if you d/l and purchase the game and it does not work you can get a refund. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

02-14-2002, 03:44 PM	#3
bigmike75th Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 15	I'm afraid me and you are in the same boat buddy, we cant run the game, i guess the game isnt configured to run on the 800 x 600.

02-14-2002, 03:49 PM	#5
bigmike75th Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 15	If youre referring to the options in graphics setup where it says Direct 3D enabled/disabled I tried it to no avail.

02-14-2002, 04:03 PM	#7
bigmike75th Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 15	Actually yeah I was looking for that topic earlier, I'm assuming from Markus's earlier post that this issue has not been adressed and it will not run on 800 x 600, apparently this must be a difficult issue to correct or I'm sure he would have implemented it in this year's edition, OOTP5 maybe?????? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

02-14-2002, 04:15 PM	#9
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	Maybe it's a laptop thing, because when I had my desktop monitor set at 800*600, OOTP looked fine IN FULL SCREEN MODE, as opposed to windowed mode. With OOTP in a window I had the problem you guys are having.

02-14-2002, 04:22 PM	#10
bigmike75th Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 15	Yeah I may try that route Steve d/l it and if it doesnt work try for the refund, I'd LOVE to be able to run this game but if not I suppose I'll get over it. The thing thats peeving me right now is missing nearly the entire baseball season on my May through September deployment!!!!

02-14-2002, 04:26 PM	#11
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	ATTENTION: I am NOT a moron. I just have a tendency to skim over posts a little too fast. [ February 14, 2002: Message edited by: JML ]</p>

02-14-2002, 04:31 PM	#12
bigmike75th Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 15	Huh?

02-15-2002, 03:37 AM	#13
dpwoodford Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 103	The reason that it's not been fixed (from the first or second post) is that it would just cost too much to fix (too many combinations) and the cost would outweigh the revenue of the people who could now use it..

02-15-2002, 04:38 AM	#14
davep1967 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 176	[quote]Originally posted by JHDOhio: <strong>Can no one answer my question?</strong><hr></blockquote> Turn off that HUGE pic in your signature!!!! How annoying. __________________ Try the StickWare Schedule Generator!

02-15-2002, 05:13 AM	#15
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	Unfortunately, the explanation of the screen resolution problem I wrote last year got lost when the original board went down. Without trying to write all that again, for what it's worth, let me offer this. 1st: Not all 800x600 machines have a problem. It depends entirely of the way the drivers were written, when they were written, and how that compares to the environment Markus is developing in. To expect Markus to buy/lease all the combinations necessary to do effective testing is simply too much. Large corporations (3DO, etc) have the resources to do that. 2nd: Looking at resolutions, 800x600 is truly on it's way out - in favor of 1024x768 and above. To provide some justification of this, I looked at the counter details from those that visit my website (BigCityBaseball) and found the following; Since December 1st 2001 : 1600x1200 55 visitors 1280x1024 932 visitors 1152x864 204 visitors 1024x768 3,586 visitors 800x600 1,265 visitors 640x480 32 visitors "other" 229 visitors As you can see, 800x600 represents about 20% of the total - and considering that most of my visitors are "probably" OOTP owners, I would think many of those 800x600 individuals can use OOTP just fine. The major thing that can be summarized from the numbers, however, is that a full 75% of this group is already at 1024x768 or higher. For Markus to spend any effort on the other 25%, when many of them will be replacing their machines over the next 12 months - doesn't make much business sense. I hope this helps, and was only provided to help explain the issue

02-15-2002, 08:39 AM	#16
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	yes, Henry - but the real question is...Do you know what I was wearing when I visited. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

02-15-2002, 02:39 PM	#17
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Hopefully not what the person in the pic is wearing....unless you two are part of a larger entity in a symbiotic relationship....x-files music. Ohhh yeah, I need a lot more sleep. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

02-16-2002, 04:27 PM	#18
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	Since someone asked.... Visitor's attire since December 1st 2001 : Shirt/slacks 3,586 visitors sportswear 1,265 visitors robe/pajamas 932 visitors underwear 204 visitors blouse/skirt/dress 55 visitors (1 male) naked 32 visitors [ February 16, 2002: Message edited by: Henry ]</p>

02-16-2002, 04:37 PM	#20
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,802	well, if you can find out what visitors are wearing, I better start wearing clothes __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.