Bizarre Problem with Game

Steve Christmas · 12-09-2004, 02:52 AM

Up until last week, I was able to run OOTP 6.11 with no problems whatsoever... but for reasons I've yet to determine (because there was nothing changed between the last time the program would run and not run), when I try to start OOTP, the first time I load a Windows profile I will get an hourglass briefly... then nothing, no resources being used, no slowdown or lag, and most importantly, no OOTP running...

The one truly bizarre thing is that I now have two E-License Control folders in my Control Panel window... one which is empty, the other with takes forever to load and eventually just becomes Windows Explorer

Now here are the factors:

- It's not an Admin issue as I've tried it out of every possible setting that WinXP:Pro (SP2 BTW... arrrgh!) allows
- Viral scanner has been turned off/on and no effect has been shown
- I've un/reinstalled the program
- Like I said before, I had gone several successful runs of the program since my last change of any sort
- I've even tried uninstalling the E-License Control, but the useless folder still exists
- When running the game (or attempting) in Win ME/98 mode, I get an error 23, which means that I need to run the game as an admin (which I know I'm logged in as)
- I'll leave out memory and processor stuff, because I'm sufficiently above system requirements and I haven't made any hardware changes for quite a while

I think that about covers it... any idea what's wrong?

Steve Kuffrey · 12-09-2004, 06:05 AM

In XP: Control Panel>Admin Tools>Services. Make sure LicCtrl is enabled.

f.montoya · 12-09-2004, 10:00 AM

Have you or anyone else installed any other software on this pc? Although not as common as in the Windows95,98,ME days, XP will still occasionally refuse to let two or more programs co-exist on the same computer.

When you install a program, Dll's, various files including registry entries are put in a number of places on your computer. Sometimes files and DLL's (Dynamic Link Library files) from two different applications will share the same name and/or reside in the same folder. With Win98 the newest one overwrote the older one but now they can both exist together in the same place. Still, when one program's DLL points to a file it needs, it may mistakenly point to the wrong file of the same name. And you'll get an "hourglass" while the program and you wait for the inevitible freeze or error after several minutes go by. People who write these programs can't possibly know the names of every file in the world so avoiding this problem is impossible at the moment.

I thought I'd mention this possibility because your problem COULD be as simple as uninstalling software that was very recently installed on your system.

As I also mentioned in my "PC Slow or Bogging?" post, keep a log of everything you do to your computer and how and when you do it. Troubleshooting will often be as simple as backtracking until you find what caused your problem(s).

I recommend you see my post http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=86636 for options on how to improve pc performance as sometimes low resources can wreak havoc on your gaming experiences.

Fidel

Steve Christmas · 12-09-2004, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

In XP: Control Panel>Admin Tools>Services. Make sure LicCtrl is enabled.

Son of a... that did it... thanks Mr. Kuffrey

And thanks for the tip f.montoya, because my immediate concern now is how it got shut off (my guess, probably Ad-Aware or something)

12-09-2004, 02:52 AM	#1
Steve Christmas Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2	Bizarre Problem with Game Up until last week, I was able to run OOTP 6.11 with no problems whatsoever... but for reasons I've yet to determine (because there was nothing changed between the last time the program would run and not run), when I try to start OOTP, the first time I load a Windows profile I will get an hourglass briefly... then nothing, no resources being used, no slowdown or lag, and most importantly, no OOTP running... The one truly bizarre thing is that I now have two E-License Control folders in my Control Panel window... one which is empty, the other with takes forever to load and eventually just becomes Windows Explorer Now here are the factors: - It's not an Admin issue as I've tried it out of every possible setting that WinXP:Pro (SP2 BTW... arrrgh!) allows - Viral scanner has been turned off/on and no effect has been shown - I've un/reinstalled the program - Like I said before, I had gone several successful runs of the program since my last change of any sort - I've even tried uninstalling the E-License Control, but the useless folder still exists - When running the game (or attempting) in Win ME/98 mode, I get an error 23, which means that I need to run the game as an admin (which I know I'm logged in as) - I'll leave out memory and processor stuff, because I'm sufficiently above system requirements and I haven't made any hardware changes for quite a while I think that about covers it... any idea what's wrong?

12-09-2004, 06:05 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	In XP: Control Panel>Admin Tools>Services. Make sure LicCtrl is enabled. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

12-09-2004, 10:00 AM	#3
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,077	Sudden Problems... Have you or anyone else installed any other software on this pc? Although not as common as in the Windows95,98,ME days, XP will still occasionally refuse to let two or more programs co-exist on the same computer. When you install a program, Dll's, various files including registry entries are put in a number of places on your computer. Sometimes files and DLL's (Dynamic Link Library files) from two different applications will share the same name and/or reside in the same folder. With Win98 the newest one overwrote the older one but now they can both exist together in the same place. Still, when one program's DLL points to a file it needs, it may mistakenly point to the wrong file of the same name. And you'll get an "hourglass" while the program and you wait for the inevitible freeze or error after several minutes go by. People who write these programs can't possibly know the names of every file in the world so avoiding this problem is impossible at the moment. I thought I'd mention this possibility because your problem COULD be as simple as uninstalling software that was very recently installed on your system. As I also mentioned in my "PC Slow or Bogging?" post, keep a log of everything you do to your computer and how and when you do it. Troubleshooting will often be as simple as backtracking until you find what caused your problem(s). I recommend you see my post http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=86636 for options on how to improve pc performance as sometimes low resources can wreak havoc on your gaming experiences. Fidel