Who is the best Non-Pitching FA?

[attackemu]

Originally Posted by Skipaway

Now that makes much more sense than "because Boras is asking for a 10 year deal, so Beltran would get a 10 year deal".

I don't think it's unrealistic that Beltran would get a 7-year-deal with 15-17 mil per. That wouldn't be too out of line.

Alright. I'll grant it.

But my list still doesn't change.

[markwookungfu]

Originally Posted by YankeePride

If you are basing a player's overall talent from his postseason performance then you won't make it very far as a general manager.

Beltran's performance is equivalent to him having a strong two-week stretch in a full 162 game season. It says little of how he'll perform for the other 150 games, and in fact his stats over his career show that he isn't necessarily consistant as a hitter.

Yeah I know, that's not really what I meant. I mean that Beltran postseason is just more of how good he is and showed the world that he's the best. He was doing the same tihng all year...

[CMH]

Originally Posted by markwookungfu

Yeah I know, that's not really what I meant. I mean that Beltran postseason is just more of how good he is and showed the world that he's the best. He was doing the same tihng all year...

I mean I agree that the postseason could be a sign of what Beltran can do over a full season, but I would hope that most teams (those that can at least) would refrain from spending Manny/ARod type money on him based on two weeks instead of 6 years.

[lgkeeper]

1) Beltran
2) Ordonez
3) Delgado
4) Sexson
5) Nomar
6) Cabrera
7) Varitek

[Joshv02]

A few considerations:

1) Positional scarcity is a big deal, but not too big a deal.

I think that means Delgado drops out of a top five FA list. It is possible to put together a 1B platoon for <3 mm that will provide production within 2 wins. Call 2 wins $4 mm, if Delgado signs for >$7mm, you could spend money more wisely.

However, it also means that Cabrera and Renteria can't be valued too highly. Renteria perhaps is worth significant $$, if you project him to be in 2002-03 self. Cabrera only if you think his defense is back to the pre-back injury times.

2) Defense and non-OBP/SLG offense (e.g., base running, decision making, non GIDP, etc.) has a value.

And, Beltran is the king of hte hill, there. His defense is very good, his baserunning is about a win above just about anybody, and his decision making is graet... it is just that Drew's is about as good with more power/OB skills.

Those two, top my list of OFers, with a 3rd baseman in third.

3) Defense is a big deal and getting to be bigger.

Defense is starting to be valued, publically, at higher rates. Beltre is a top notch defensive 3b, perhaps the best in the game -- up there with Chavez and Rolen, iirc. There may be none better, or at least only two. That adds about $3-5mm of value to his deal.

If you think of him as a .350/.550 hitter, I think that is worth at least $5mm. He could be a .370/600 hitter, which is another 1-2 wins of value. And he is so young. I'm salivating.