Ethics Ques

disposableheros · 11-05-2004, 12:45 AM

theres an argument going on in a league im in and i thought i would get an opinion or two from the forums here

is it ok to crack the commishes password and sim ahead a few years?

dbacks · 11-05-2004, 12:52 AM

I don't know who voted 'yes' on this one, but there's a reason online leagues have passwords.

Mike Ivie · 11-05-2004, 02:13 AM

There is a way to crack passwords? I guess if there is it seems unethical

jazzrack · 11-05-2004, 02:17 AM

yes, there is a way to crack passowords (no, I won't tell you how) and it is NOT ethical

Cuss16 · 11-05-2004, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jazzrack

yes, there is a way to crack passowords (no, I won't tell you how) and it is NOT ethical

yes, please don't for all the online leagues out there.

twins15 · 11-05-2004, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by disposableheros

is it ok to crack the commishes password and sim ahead a few years?

No, definitely not, IMO.

jazzrack · 11-05-2004, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuss16

yes, please don't for all the online leagues out there.

I am a commish myself, there is no way in hell i will ever tell, The only reason i know is because i locked myself out once and had to figure out how to crack my own league

EdGien · 11-05-2004, 03:02 PM

i do this alot

it is completely fair, why should i be punished for being more intelligent than other members of the league who can not hack files

this is also a great way to win titles since it has helped me to several

Karen Lutz · 11-05-2004, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EdGien

i do this alot

it is completely fair, why should i be punished for being more intelligent than other members of the league who can not hack files

this is also a great way to win titles since it has helped me to several

You're joking right? That statement can't possibly be serious. It is never ok to cheat, there is a reason they want to keep the information locked to begin with.

rem · 11-05-2004, 03:33 PM

It's cheating and anyone who does it should be banished from the OOTP community.

jdettbarn · 11-05-2004, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

It's cheating and anyone who does it should be banished from the OOTP community.

I agree. No question about it...

mad0die · 11-05-2004, 04:05 PM

It's OK if you are a cheater. If this sounds like you, please find fellow like-minded cheaters to form a league with and leave us alone.

ukhotstove · 11-05-2004, 05:07 PM

You don't win titles by cheating and surely you'd enjoy winning a title more by not cheating,I know when I've played computer games I've had more fun and got more satisfaction in completing a game without cheat codes than I have with completing it with cheat codes.

EdGien · 11-05-2004, 05:12 PM

no i am not serious but i do enjoy watching people get over excited about wild claims

rem · 11-05-2004, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EdGien

no i am not serious but i do enjoy watching people get over excited about wild claims

yeah right

Cowboys3356 · 11-05-2004, 09:16 PM

I don't think hacking a league file can really do much good. Even if you changed all of the ratings of your players to 100s across the board, those changes will not be saved in your FTP Export. And even if you uploaded the hacked league file to your league's website (which means you also hacked your commish's domain password) it still wouldn't make a difference because the commish is going to sim games off of the League File on his computer, not the one on the website. And finally simming ahead is pointless because players develop so randomly that you can't really learn anything from simming ahead because it will be different everytime. I voted against simming ahead in the poll because it is wrong but it is also a waste of time in my opinion.

dbacks · 11-05-2004, 10:29 PM

^^agreed

PrestonKaye · 11-06-2004, 06:17 PM

blah. BAN HIS SORRY ARSSE!

CHCfan · 11-06-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EdGien

i do this alot

it is completely fair, why should i be punished for being more intelligent than other members of the league who can not hack files

this is also a great way to win titles since it has helped me to several

Ah, good point. Cheating's fair because it helps him win.

If there's anything I can't understand more than cheating, it's the cheater's complete ignorance to the idea that it's wrong.

Brian.

Dr. Walter Doodah · 11-06-2004, 06:58 PM

It's cheating for sure.

Since it is password protected, it is implied that you have no business 'passing.' Just because you have l33t skillz and can hack through makes no difference. A league is set up for a group of people to compete at playing this game, not at who is the best at hacking the league file.

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yes	5	7.69%
no	60	92.31%
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11-05-2004, 12:45 AM	#1
disposableheros Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,332	Ethics Ques theres an argument going on in a league im in and i thought i would get an opinion or two from the forums here is it ok to crack the commishes password and sim ahead a few years? __________________ 2 Wild Cards, 11 Division Champs, 4 League Champs, 3 World Champs, and 3 Best GM awards Baseball Maelstrom - New York Mets - 180-149 .547 Corporate League Baseball - Coke Buzz - 889-649 .578 Western Hemisphere Baseball League - Santiago Saints - 672-793 .459 Record - 2428-2271 .517

11-05-2004, 02:17 AM	#4
jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 3,229	yes, there is a way to crack passowords (no, I won't tell you how) and it is NOT ethical __________________ . "Never confuse composure for ease" Was once Head Cheese of Corporate League Baseball

11-05-2004, 03:02 PM	#8
EdGien Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plainfield, WI Posts: 70	i do this alot it is completely fair, why should i be punished for being more intelligent than other members of the league who can not hack files this is also a great way to win titles since it has helped me to several __________________ my man hand is reaching for your unit

11-05-2004, 03:33 PM	#10
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	It's cheating and anyone who does it should be banished from the OOTP community. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

11-05-2004, 12:52 AM	#2
dbacks Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,735	I don't know who voted 'yes' on this one, but there's a reason online leagues have passwords.

11-05-2004, 02:13 AM	#3
Mike Ivie Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 203	There is a way to crack passwords? I guess if there is it seems unethical

11-05-2004, 04:05 PM	#12
mad0die All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: TX Posts: 913	It's OK if you are a cheater. If this sounds like you, please find fellow like-minded cheaters to form a league with and leave us alone. __________________ Commish GUBA

11-05-2004, 05:07 PM	#13
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	You don't win titles by cheating and surely you'd enjoy winning a title more by not cheating,I know when I've played computer games I've had more fun and got more satisfaction in completing a game without cheat codes than I have with completing it with cheat codes.

11-05-2004, 05:12 PM	#14
EdGien Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plainfield, WI Posts: 70	no i am not serious but i do enjoy watching people get over excited about wild claims __________________ my man hand is reaching for your unit

11-05-2004, 09:16 PM	#16
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,571	I don't think hacking a league file can really do much good. Even if you changed all of the ratings of your players to 100s across the board, those changes will not be saved in your FTP Export. And even if you uploaded the hacked league file to your league's website (which means you also hacked your commish's domain password) it still wouldn't make a difference because the commish is going to sim games off of the League File on his computer, not the one on the website. And finally simming ahead is pointless because players develop so randomly that you can't really learn anything from simming ahead because it will be different everytime. I voted against simming ahead in the poll because it is wrong but it is also a waste of time in my opinion.

11-05-2004, 10:29 PM	#17
dbacks Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,735	^^agreed

11-06-2004, 06:17 PM	#18
PrestonKaye All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cape Cod, Mass Posts: 849	blah. BAN HIS SORRY ARSSE! __________________ --Championships aren't won on paper, they are won in a computer simulation!-- Vipors Baseball.... BITCHES Xenoz http://img184.exs.cx/img184/219/keblarsig2xy.jpg Flow Storm http://img47.exs.cx/img47/328/ab1copy8hs.jpg

11-06-2004, 06:58 PM	#20
Dr. Walter Doodah Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: not Libya Posts: 199	It's cheating for sure. Since it is password protected, it is implied that you have no business 'passing.' Just because you have l33t skillz and can hack through makes no difference. A league is set up for a group of people to compete at playing this game, not at who is the best at hacking the league file.