CatoBase: How long does it take you to export?

Zweiblumen · 10-21-2004, 08:43 AM

So, I started a league and decided to make use of CatoBase for the first time from the beginning. I like to sim a bit before hand so my league has history to it when I jump in, so I simed 10 seasons, importing each to Cato. Now I'm trying to build the website, and Cato is going on 32 hours of exporting. Admittedly I am producing 10 seasons at a time, but I was wondering what sort of export times other people see. I'm running on a 1Ghz machine with 256 Megs of ram.

So, how long does it take you guys that build after every season, and how much slower does it get for each season you have on the books. Am I going to be waiting a week for each season by the time I get to 20 or 30? What's the longest running league that you've used Cato consistently for?

disposableheros · 10-21-2004, 07:42 PM

disabling "year-to-year LH/RH splits" will decrease time. turning off anti-virus software will too. producing "last years stats only" will help as well.

Ktulu · 10-21-2004, 08:03 PM

32 hours sounds a little extreme. Ive exported more than 10 seasons at once and it only takes a few hours, certainly not anywhere near 32.

Using the last year only option, it usually takes about 1:30 to 2 hours for my 14 team league(25 seasons in). AMD 2600, 256mb ram(stupid other stick died

).

Zweiblumen · 10-22-2004, 12:44 AM

Wow, either winME sucks a lot more than I thought, or something is wrong. I do have year to year splits disabled, and even a single year export takes overnight. I exported 10 seasons at once, as noted above, and it took in the high 30's. I simmed and added in season #11 and it's currently on hour 11 and has gotten to the T's for player output, meaning there are still team pages and leaderboards to go.

Also, I noticed something odd....watching it chew through player outputs, players who have been retired for several years are still having their player pages recreated. This seems odd to me and I wonder if I've done something wrong. As far as I can tell the last year only option (which I'm using anyway) only applies to team pages. Does it always recreate every player's page?

Backing stuff up and going to win2k is definitely moving higher on my list of things to do this weekend. Hopefully that improves things. Maybe I should save some cash and pick up one of those $500 Dells that blows away my current machine. Don't really want to deal with all those winXP issues though....

jmm8356 · 10-22-2004, 10:04 AM

Catobase will recreate most/all player pages every year if you have the Leaderboards option under Output / Player Pages enabled. (This puts their career leaderboard ranking(s) on their page, and they change every year, so...)

Zweiblumen · 10-22-2004, 10:34 AM

Of course....I forgot about that. My 11th season update is still going here this morning....it's now about half way through positional leaderboards and on hour 17.

ctorg · 10-22-2004, 01:50 PM

It totally depends on the size of my league, but an export can take anywhere from an hour to ten hours for me. I think it once took like 15 hours. And my computer is less than 1 gHz, so I wouldn't think many people should have theirs taking much longer. Then again, I usually have small-sized leagues.

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Originally Posted by jmm8356

Catobase will recreate most/all player pages every year if you have the Leaderboards option under Output / Player Pages enabled. (This puts their career leaderboard ranking(s) on their page, and they change every year, so...)

If I were to turn that off, would it get rid of all the leaderboards, or just the ability to see them on player pages? I always figured it wouldn't have any leaderboards at all, so I've never unchecked it.

plannine · 10-22-2004, 03:01 PM

Im running a 24 team fictioal leauge (7th season) on a 333mhz laptop 256MB memory and it takes about a hour and a half to do both the import and the create html of Cato.

I defrag my harddrive daily, and clean out all temp files weekly. I also disconnect from the internet and turn off antivirus and firewall when running Cato.

jmm8356 · 10-22-2004, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

If I were to turn that off, would it get rid of all the leaderboards, or just the ability to see them on player pages? I always figured it wouldn't have any leaderboards at all, so I've never unchecked it.

I'm pretty sure it would just take the leaderboard placement charts off the player pages, since there's a separate setting for Leaderboard Pages under Team & League. However, I'm mostly just going by the readme... only one way to find out fer sure.

ctorg · 10-22-2004, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jmm8356

I'm pretty sure it would just take the leaderboard placement charts off the player pages, since there's a separate setting for Leaderboard Pages under Team & League. However, I'm mostly just going by the readme... only one way to find out fer sure.

Funny, I haven't looked at the readme since back in the days when you had to manually add in all the teams and stuff. It's amazing how far Catobase has come.

AngelinOF · 10-22-2004, 05:55 PM

Do you happen to leave your virus scanner on? I know for me disabling Norton will speed up just about everything, backing up a DVD with Norton on takes about 50 minutes with it off it takes 40 minutes. Also make sure there isn't anything running in the background and try not to use your CPU while its running. Seems like I recall Catobase takes alot of memory to run all of its processes so your biggest problem could be the small amount of memory you have. Memory is pretty cheap so you could probably double your memory for less than $50 and you will seen an overall improvment running everything on the CPU.

Also keep in mind that player pages don't have to be created after each year, usually what I would do would be create the team/league pages each your which would take very little time and then create all the player pages ever 5 season or so. I found very little time difference in running them for 1 season or 10.

SandMan · 10-23-2004, 12:30 PM

I sim 10 years then run catobase create html. I am running on a 2.4ghz with 1gig 2700 sdram with a 120 gig harddrive that is only used for ootp and it is now taking me about 32 hours to run the output, If i do it after each season it takes about 3 hours to create all reports. I am seriously thinking about networking my 2nd pc and have the catobase on the 2nd pc, I would copy the necessary files and not run catobase over the network of course....

Zweiblumen · 10-25-2004, 12:30 AM

Wow, I wonder how it can possibly be taking my machine so long....I started the process of backing stuff up so I can go to win2k, which I hope manages memory better....

Speaking of which, I finally got the end of my 20 year sim and took over a team and started to run the catobase on thoes 20 years. In the middle of the 'V' players catobase told me I had run out of memory. I had been playing a lot of ootp and doing other things since I last rebooted, but still. Quite frustrating....

Oh well, I'll reboot and try again.

Dargone · 10-25-2004, 04:27 AM

That's a long time...

Bobbuttons · 10-25-2004, 01:06 PM

I made the mistake of taking 5 or 6 years off from outputting my CatoBase pages for a league that started in 1931 and is now in 1983. Took nearly two days to get it done. Oh, well. That's life.

Gastric ReFlux · 10-25-2004, 01:12 PM

WinMe, there's a big part of it. WinME blows. Seriously. Get 2000 or XP.

10-21-2004, 07:42 PM	#2
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10-21-2004, 08:03 PM	#3
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,533	32 hours sounds a little extreme. Ive exported more than 10 seasons at once and it only takes a few hours, certainly not anywhere near 32. Using the last year only option, it usually takes about 1:30 to 2 hours for my 14 team league(25 seasons in). AMD 2600, 256mb ram(stupid other stick died ). __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

10-22-2004, 10:04 AM	#5
jmm8356 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lafayette IN (by way of Tonawanda NY) Posts: 1,673	Catobase will recreate most/all player pages every year if you have the Leaderboards option under Output / Player Pages enabled. (This puts their career leaderboard ranking(s) on their page, and they change every year, so...) __________________ Jeremy from Tonawanda --- Go Cubbies! --- Unofficial Theta Tester(tm) "Oh, we got both kinds. We got country and western!" From OOTP 6: Designated for Assignment FAQ (Includes both problems and solutions! Ooooo! )

10-23-2004, 12:30 PM	#12
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,946	110 season league... I sim 10 years then run catobase create html. I am running on a 2.4ghz with 1gig 2700 sdram with a 120 gig harddrive that is only used for ootp and it is now taking me about 32 hours to run the output, If i do it after each season it takes about 3 hours to create all reports. I am seriously thinking about networking my 2nd pc and have the catobase on the 2nd pc, I would copy the necessary files and not run catobase over the network of course....

10-25-2004, 04:27 AM	#14
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	That's a long time... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-21-2004, 08:43 AM	#1
Zweiblumen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 326	CatoBase: How long does it take you to export? So, I started a league and decided to make use of CatoBase for the first time from the beginning. I like to sim a bit before hand so my league has history to it when I jump in, so I simed 10 seasons, importing each to Cato. Now I'm trying to build the website, and Cato is going on 32 hours of exporting. Admittedly I am producing 10 seasons at a time, but I was wondering what sort of export times other people see. I'm running on a 1Ghz machine with 256 Megs of ram. So, how long does it take you guys that build after every season, and how much slower does it get for each season you have on the books. Am I going to be waiting a week for each season by the time I get to 20 or 30? What's the longest running league that you've used Cato consistently for?

10-22-2004, 12:44 AM	#4
Zweiblumen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 326	Wow, either winME sucks a lot more than I thought, or something is wrong. I do have year to year splits disabled, and even a single year export takes overnight. I exported 10 seasons at once, as noted above, and it took in the high 30's. I simmed and added in season #11 and it's currently on hour 11 and has gotten to the T's for player output, meaning there are still team pages and leaderboards to go. Also, I noticed something odd....watching it chew through player outputs, players who have been retired for several years are still having their player pages recreated. This seems odd to me and I wonder if I've done something wrong. As far as I can tell the last year only option (which I'm using anyway) only applies to team pages. Does it always recreate every player's page? Backing stuff up and going to win2k is definitely moving higher on my list of things to do this weekend. Hopefully that improves things. Maybe I should save some cash and pick up one of those $500 Dells that blows away my current machine. Don't really want to deal with all those winXP issues though....

10-22-2004, 10:34 AM	#6
Zweiblumen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 326	Of course....I forgot about that. My 11th season update is still going here this morning....it's now about half way through positional leaderboards and on hour 17.

10-22-2004, 03:01 PM	#8
plannine All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 572	Im running a 24 team fictioal leauge (7th season) on a 333mhz laptop 256MB memory and it takes about a hour and a half to do both the import and the create html of Cato. I defrag my harddrive daily, and clean out all temp files weekly. I also disconnect from the internet and turn off antivirus and firewall when running Cato.

10-22-2004, 05:55 PM	#11
AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,353	Do you happen to leave your virus scanner on? I know for me disabling Norton will speed up just about everything, backing up a DVD with Norton on takes about 50 minutes with it off it takes 40 minutes. Also make sure there isn't anything running in the background and try not to use your CPU while its running. Seems like I recall Catobase takes alot of memory to run all of its processes so your biggest problem could be the small amount of memory you have. Memory is pretty cheap so you could probably double your memory for less than $50 and you will seen an overall improvment running everything on the CPU. Also keep in mind that player pages don't have to be created after each year, usually what I would do would be create the team/league pages each your which would take very little time and then create all the player pages ever 5 season or so. I found very little time difference in running them for 1 season or 10.

10-25-2004, 12:30 AM	#13
Zweiblumen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 326	Wow, I wonder how it can possibly be taking my machine so long....I started the process of backing stuff up so I can go to win2k, which I hope manages memory better.... Speaking of which, I finally got the end of my 20 year sim and took over a team and started to run the catobase on thoes 20 years. In the middle of the 'V' players catobase told me I had run out of memory. I had been playing a lot of ootp and doing other things since I last rebooted, but still. Quite frustrating.... Oh well, I'll reboot and try again.

10-25-2004, 01:06 PM	#15
Bobbuttons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Picturesque Mentor-on-the-Lake, Ohio Posts: 3,708	I made the mistake of taking 5 or 6 years off from outputting my CatoBase pages for a league that started in 1931 and is now in 1983. Took nearly two days to get it done. Oh, well. That's life. __________________ Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do....cause they're fast! Gibson swings, and a fly ball to deep right field! This is gonna be a home run! Unbelievable! A home run for Gibson! And the Dodgers have won the game, 5 to 4; I don't believe what I just saw! I don't believe what I just saw!

10-25-2004, 01:12 PM	#16
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	WinMe, there's a big part of it. WinME blows. Seriously. Get 2000 or XP.