Manny Ramirez is incredibly dumb

Danny · 10-16-2004, 08:45 PM

Just incase you didn't already know.

Dargone · 10-16-2004, 08:46 PM

Not a good decision, but it does look like he was safe...

Danny · 10-16-2004, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargone

Not a good decision, but it does look like he was safe...

After seeing it on replay I agree with you Dargone, but I've always been taught that you never make the first or third out at third if there is any question that you might get thrown out. For a moment there I was actually angry at him, like I wanted to beat him up

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benchwarmer · 10-16-2004, 08:49 PM

1)He was safe
2)He shouldn't have gone, i agree
3)He has been the sox MVP arguablly,
4)without him, the sox would not have even been here. So i'll take a bad call from the umpire and continue to have manny tear it up in the postseason!

Danny · 10-16-2004, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by benchwarmer

1)He was safe
2)He shouldn't have gone, i agree
3)He has been the sox MVP arguablly,
4)without him, the sox would not have even been here. So i'll take a bad call from the umpire and continue to have manny tear it up in the postseason!

No doubt we wouldn't be here without Manny, but he's still dumb.

benchwarmer · 10-16-2004, 08:53 PM

I dont think he is 'dumb'. If anything he is guilty of trying to make something happen. With the sox struggling in the first 6 innings of each game, the sox know this and are aware, and will try to score by being agressive.

NIXON MAKES IT 3-2!

Danny · 10-16-2004, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by benchwarmer

I dont think he is 'dumb'. If anything he is guilty of trying to make something happen. With the sox struggling in the first 6 innings of each game, the sox know this and are aware, and will try to score by being agressive.

NIXON MAKES IT 3-2!

Did it not make you a little angry though?

Looks like they're starting to put some good wood on the ball, Millar drove that one pretty good.

REVERSE THE CURSE!

Danny · 10-16-2004, 09:01 PM

Oh and by the way Tim McCarver is really dumb too...

Dargone · 10-16-2004, 09:06 PM

Lol

mlyons · 10-16-2004, 09:12 PM

Ramirez isn't dumb; he was just doing what the third base coach told him to do. On a play hit to right field, the runner has no choice but to trust his third base coach. He can't look behind him while he's running, can he?

Danny · 10-16-2004, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyons

Ramirez isn't dumb; he was just doing what the third base coach told him to do. On a play hit to right field, the runner has no choice but to trust his third base coach. He can't look behind him while he's running, can he?

Going from first to third is usually a decision made by the baserunner because the play is in front of him. At least that's what it's like in my experience.

mlyons · 10-16-2004, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Going from first to third is usually a decision made by the baserunner because the play is in front of him. At least that's what it's like in my experience.

Once the ball was out of the infield, the only time the play was in front of Ramirez was when the tag was applied. He spent most of the play with his back to the ball, running away from it. How would Ramirez possibly have known whether Sheffield had fielded the ball cleanly?

disposableheros · 10-16-2004, 09:25 PM

manny has to know the situation before the pitcher even throws the first pitch of the AB *ok, 2 out im on first, i should be stopping at 2B, unless something wacky happens*

Dargone · 10-16-2004, 09:26 PM

It was a mistake.

Dargone · 10-16-2004, 09:28 PM

Especailly because he didn't get a good jump...

mlyons · 10-16-2004, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargone

It was a mistake.

By the third base coach.

Seriously, watch the replay. He was waving him in. Let's put the blame where the blame is due, shall we?

Dargone · 10-16-2004, 09:33 PM

If that's the case then I totally agree with you...

jazzrack · 10-16-2004, 10:08 PM

I agree, it wasn't manny's fault he has to trust his coach.

9-6 yuckies

benchwarmer · 10-16-2004, 10:23 PM

I'm really wondering how many times Seuve(sp?) has to blow a call and cause an out before he himself, gets the axe!

Will be back next season you think?

Danny · 10-16-2004, 10:26 PM

Let's hope not. I don't even know where he came from to begin with.

10-16-2004, 08:45 PM	#1
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10-16-2004, 08:46 PM	#2
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Not a good decision, but it does look like he was safe... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-16-2004, 09:01 PM	#8
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10-16-2004, 09:06 PM	#9
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Lol __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-16-2004, 09:12 PM	#10
mlyons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,725	Ramirez isn't dumb; he was just doing what the third base coach told him to do. On a play hit to right field, the runner has no choice but to trust his third base coach. He can't look behind him while he's running, can he? __________________ Things can always be worse.

10-16-2004, 08:49 PM	#4
benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,461	1)He was safe 2)He shouldn't have gone, i agree 3)He has been the sox MVP arguablly, 4)without him, the sox would not have even been here. So i'll take a bad call from the umpire and continue to have manny tear it up in the postseason!

10-16-2004, 08:53 PM	#6
benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,461	I dont think he is 'dumb'. If anything he is guilty of trying to make something happen. With the sox struggling in the first 6 innings of each game, the sox know this and are aware, and will try to score by being agressive. NIXON MAKES IT 3-2!

10-16-2004, 09:25 PM	#13
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10-16-2004, 09:26 PM	#14
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	It was a mistake. __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-16-2004, 09:28 PM	#15
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Especailly because he didn't get a good jump... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-16-2004, 09:33 PM	#17
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	If that's the case then I totally agree with you... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-16-2004, 10:08 PM	#18
jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 3,229	I agree, it wasn't manny's fault he has to trust his coach. 9-6 yuckies __________________ . "Never confuse composure for ease" Was once Head Cheese of Corporate League Baseball

10-16-2004, 10:23 PM	#19
benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,461	I'm really wondering how many times Seuve(sp?) has to blow a call and cause an out before he himself, gets the axe! Will be back next season you think?

10-16-2004, 10:26 PM	#20
Danny Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Not there. Unless there is here. In which case I would be there. Posts: 52	Let's hope not. I don't even know where he came from to begin with. __________________ Remember, if at first you don't succeed, deny you were even trying.