Strat-o-matic Football?

icvu42 · 09-30-2004, 10:59 AM

Just wondering if anyone has played the computer version of this game and can provide any info on it. I have been to their website, but they really don't give much info about the game. I know that it is a replay, but am curious about:

Does the CPU make trades with other cpu controlled teams, cut players?
How detailed is the play calling? Are there specific offense and defense plays, or just run inside/ run outside?
It said that you can buy the computer version with cards... what would you need cards for on the computer version?

I'd appreciate any feedback.

Thank you.

phenom · 09-30-2004, 11:38 AM

I know a guy who runs a strat-o-matic site with forums... lemme see if I can find him.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-30-2004, 11:40 AM

CPU makes NO GM moves at all. Game is fairly solid otherwise.

phenom · 09-30-2004, 11:41 AM

here's his forums: http://www.stratfanforum.com/forums/

Splitter24 · 09-30-2004, 11:42 AM

Not sure about the absolute latest version, but the SOM Football that I have doesn't have a computer GM so to speak. But it does have a computer coach to play against if you're playing solo. It doesn't have pre-made team-specific plays or anything like that. You basically call where you want your running back to carry the ball or where you want your intended receiver to catch the ball. You can pick from a good amount of offensive and defensive formations. On defense you have lots of optios as to who to blitz, who to double team, where to position your safeties, etc.

You don't need the player cards. If you're old-school, you can play head-to-head with someone by just using the cards. If that ain't your bag, then don't bother ordering them.

In summary, I've been a fan of SOM games for a long time. But they're best used to replay one particular season. It's not a game like OOTP where you run a franchise over the course of multiple seasons.

icvu42 · 09-30-2004, 04:08 PM

Thanks for the info guys! I've checked out the forum and it has been pretty helpful.

jtsly2000 · 10-01-2004, 12:10 PM

If you want a solid replay football sim with great head to head play I would recommend Action! Football. I have played both games and this one is much more in depth. www.dksports.com

GeoWar · 10-01-2004, 11:39 PM

If these games at www.dksports.com are like Dave's work on Season Ticket Football 2003 ........... I would not buy the game. I bought STFB3 and it was so bug filled that I played less than 30 minutes - uninstalled and put the game away .... I looked for a patch or update that fixed the game but no luck ....... Does anyone else have the game.

Steve Kuffrey · 10-01-2004, 11:49 PM

Yeah, it's not bad.......but FOR ME I'd rather have FOF 2004 and a career mode. But APCF is a pretty good replay game.

Dan Theman · 10-02-2004, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoWar

Season Ticket Football 2003 ........... I would not buy the game. I bought STFB3 and it was so bug filled that I played less than 30 minutes - uninstalled and put the game away .... I looked for a patch or update that fixed the game but no luck ....... Does anyone else have the game.

I bought it some time ago and couldn't even get it to work once. I gave up in what would have been disgust, but the game cost me very little so I just gave it a "pfft!"

jtsly2000 · 10-02-2004, 02:02 AM

I had similar concerns. From what I heard from Dave Season Ticket Football 2003 is no longer made. Action! Football is a totally different product. For replay's Action! 2004 has been more accurate than my newest version of strat. Strat simply has to many ties to a board game for my taste.

GeoWar · 10-04-2004, 07:44 PM

(IMO) ---- Dave's reputation for customer satisfaction is questionable based on STFB 2003.

That is why I would be very careful ....... since STFB 2003 is his product he should make it useable and not this junk ..... Thanks for FOF and TPF ...

phenom · 10-04-2004, 08:39 PM

I'm in an online league using STF/Action!

originalgamer · 10-16-2004, 12:38 AM

Same guy make season ticket basketball? That was unplayable.

fluffone · 10-16-2004, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by originalgamer

Same guy make season ticket basketball? That was unplayable.

Season Ticket was Infogrames/Atari's marketing title for 3 games by 3 different developers.

Season Ticket Baseball = OOTP for those that don't know (no complaints here,I purchased STB(OOTP3),STB2k3(OOTP4)and just got OOTP6

Season Ticket Football = Dave Koch Sports(Developer of Action Football)
admittedly it's as buggy as the day is long and one of my worst experiences,but for those familiar with the STB/OOTP situation,the developer usually creates the patch for the original(A la Markus' incredible support for OOTP and a few weeks later Infogrames publishes the patch for Season Ticket,well unfortunately this seems to have fallen through the cracks as I've seen many upgrades and service updates for Action Football on Dave Koch's site,but Infogrames never bothered to patch STFootball(the interface was workable enough,but there were too many other bugs to list,numerous crashes,and no sense of accuracy). Don't get scared off of Action based on Season Ticket,I recently purchased Action Baseball and while the Seasons are
generally e-mailed or on 3.5(I don't have one),customer service created a CD on request,so the customer service is there and the game is pleasant enough(more of an APBA,SOM,DMB single seasonreplay game than a GM/Fantasy/Career Replay like OOTP)

Season Ticket Basketball (I believe this is repackaged Fast Break Basketball)and I haven't played it enough to give a valid opinion (not enough coaching detail for me,and the whole NBA salary cap system makes the NFL look like preschool in terms of complexity.

GeoWar · 10-16-2004, 09:15 PM

SO - If Dave is so attentive to customer service -- Why ?? didn't he "fix", "patch", or update Season Ticket Football ... He dumped it on the market (I got my copy after STBaseball 2003) took the money made and is now asking you to buy another game ...

NO - he needs to do something with STFBk3 first. It is reputation as developer

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09-30-2004, 10:59 AM	#1
icvu42 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Liverpool, NY Posts: 53	Strat-o-matic Football? Just wondering if anyone has played the computer version of this game and can provide any info on it. I have been to their website, but they really don't give much info about the game. I know that it is a replay, but am curious about: Does the CPU make trades with other cpu controlled teams, cut players? How detailed is the play calling? Are there specific offense and defense plays, or just run inside/ run outside? It said that you can buy the computer version with cards... what would you need cards for on the computer version? I'd appreciate any feedback. Thank you. __________________ Rick

09-30-2004, 11:38 AM	#2
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,774	I know a guy who runs a strat-o-matic site with forums... lemme see if I can find him. __________________ reported

09-30-2004, 11:40 AM	#3
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	CPU makes NO GM moves at all. Game is fairly solid otherwise. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-30-2004, 11:41 AM	#4
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,774	here's his forums: http://www.stratfanforum.com/forums/ __________________ reported

09-30-2004, 04:08 PM	#6
icvu42 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Liverpool, NY Posts: 53	Thanks for the info guys! I've checked out the forum and it has been pretty helpful. __________________ Rick

09-30-2004, 11:42 AM	#5
Splitter24 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Willsboro, NY Posts: 2,895	Not sure about the absolute latest version, but the SOM Football that I have doesn't have a computer GM so to speak. But it does have a computer coach to play against if you're playing solo. It doesn't have pre-made team-specific plays or anything like that. You basically call where you want your running back to carry the ball or where you want your intended receiver to catch the ball. You can pick from a good amount of offensive and defensive formations. On defense you have lots of optios as to who to blitz, who to double team, where to position your safeties, etc. You don't need the player cards. If you're old-school, you can play head-to-head with someone by just using the cards. If that ain't your bag, then don't bother ordering them. In summary, I've been a fan of SOM games for a long time. But they're best used to replay one particular season. It's not a game like OOTP where you run a franchise over the course of multiple seasons.

10-01-2004, 12:10 PM	#7
jtsly2000 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 173	Football Sims If you want a solid replay football sim with great head to head play I would recommend Action! Football. I have played both games and this one is much more in depth. www.dksports.com

10-01-2004, 11:39 PM	#8
GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	If these games at www.dksports.com are like Dave's work on Season Ticket Football 2003 ........... I would not buy the game. I bought STFB3 and it was so bug filled that I played less than 30 minutes - uninstalled and put the game away .... I looked for a patch or update that fixed the game but no luck ....... Does anyone else have the game. __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

10-01-2004, 11:49 PM	#9
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Yeah, it's not bad.......but FOR ME I'd rather have FOF 2004 and a career mode. But APCF is a pretty good replay game. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

10-02-2004, 02:02 AM	#11
jtsly2000 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 173	Football Sims I had similar concerns. From what I heard from Dave Season Ticket Football 2003 is no longer made. Action! Football is a totally different product. For replay's Action! 2004 has been more accurate than my newest version of strat. Strat simply has to many ties to a board game for my taste.

10-04-2004, 07:44 PM	#12
GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	(IMO) ---- Dave's reputation for customer satisfaction is questionable based on STFB 2003. That is why I would be very careful ....... since STFB 2003 is his product he should make it useable and not this junk ..... Thanks for FOF and TPF ... __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

10-04-2004, 08:39 PM	#13
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,774	I'm in an online league using STF/Action! __________________ reported

10-16-2004, 12:38 AM	#14
originalgamer Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 61	Same guy make season ticket basketball? That was unplayable.

10-16-2004, 09:15 PM	#16
GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	SO - If Dave is so attentive to customer service -- Why ?? didn't he "fix", "patch", or update Season Ticket Football ... He dumped it on the market (I got my copy after STBaseball 2003) took the money made and is now asking you to buy another game ... NO - he needs to do something with STFBk3 first. It is reputation as developer . __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY ! Last edited by GeoWar; 10-18-2004 at 06:39 PM.