builting your respect status around the league abd clubhouse.

nix · 08-02-2002, 08:11 PM

man, would u have the ability to charge the mount if you think a pitcher threw at you cause you took him out the ball park on your previous at bat.?? thast should be added.
this action would help your character gain a lot of respect from your teammates( they wont think you're a punk) and you're get respect from pitchers around the league(they're think twice about throwing at you)

nix · 08-02-2002, 08:15 PM

also i think that if you choose to be a pitcher (as your character) and your teammates was thrown at, by the opposite pitcher retalliating and hitting one of their hitter, migh help you fit in better in the clubhouse because of your couragious action.
you may become the leader of your clubhouse environment.

crackpott · 08-02-2002, 11:46 PM

wait, if you charge the mound, they WON'T think you're a punk? I know that <i>I</i> think that peaceful players who follow the rules are all punks...

nix · 08-03-2002, 04:55 AM

well , if you get beam with a 90mile fastball just because you took the pitcher deep, and dont do anything about i,t might promp teammates, guessing about your manhood. and sometimes a brawl brings unity to a clubhouse. this might help you for future deals and help your popularity to your team or something like that.

markprior22 · 08-03-2002, 03:58 PM

crackpott...i think i love u

crackpott · 08-04-2002, 12:19 AM

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this might help you for future deals

I can see it now "Do you want Vlad?" "What? You must be crazy... he hasn't started any bench-clearing brawls. He's too much of a nice guy. I want nothing to do with him... I'm gonna go see what Albert Belle is up to."

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crackpott...i think i love u

Ya, that'll happen...

CMH · 08-04-2002, 12:30 AM

what does charging the mound or walking to first peacefully have to do with your manhood?

i for one think you are a bigger man if you can walk away. let them know who's boss next at bat.

as my coach always said:

"Show 'em with your bat"

crackpott · 08-04-2002, 12:53 AM

yup. When Piazza hit a homer off Clemens in that matchup everyone was looking forward to, that was much better revenge than charging the mound... and when Estes homered off him it was much more hilarious too.

nix · 08-04-2002, 01:01 AM

whatever you guyz says , where im from(thebronx) we are taught to charge the mount everytime we get beam. you've got to understand that a man with a baseball in his hand is like a man with a loaded gun. i cant have cowards throwing at me just because im a greaT player.
piazza never charge the mount because he's a fruit-cake. just ask mike hampton and a lot of the mets players that went to the world series, what they think of mike piazza. the guy is a great player but noone and his clubhouse respect him he's a softy
mike hampton was quoted saying "Piazza is a great player but has no heart, he should had charge clement and send the yankees a message that we will not stand for this kind of bull-****"
The yankkes trashed them away like little kids and they faded into darkness like chumps.

brawls brings unity.

crackpott · 08-04-2002, 01:23 AM

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mike hampton was quoted saying "Piazza is a great player but has no heart, he should had charge clement and send the yankees a message that we will not stand for this kind of bull-****"

Can I get a source for this?

I can see how brawls bring unity. Shouldn't they be happening every day then? I guess up here in Canada we're "soft" because we don't "charge the mount every time we get beam."

...something tells me you've been "beamed" a few too many times...

nix · 08-04-2002, 02:15 AM

i dont know whether i can find the source to it, but the quote was all over new yorks newspapers about 2 months after hampton signed with the colorado rockies.
that's also one of the mean reason why the mets didnt want to trade for hampton with the rockies and bring him back to new york. piazza hate him cause he questionned his toughness.
i understand 2 wrong dont make it right but sometimes you have to defand yourserf. it takes a man to say" no! this will not go any farther because im coming to get you and im going to whip your butt for good"
letting it all hang out is good, Teammates appreciate a guy that'll stand for himserf and not take B.S! such action bring armony and toughness into a team and that may be what the doctor ordered for a playoff run.
during the mets resurection they used a similar technique, they started a brawl and there we go!! they made it all the way to the series.
asiah thomas detroit pistons used the same shiit too.

crackpott · 08-04-2002, 02:29 AM

It doesn't take a man to charge the mound, it takes a man to walk down to first base.

Nor does it take a man to say "No this will not go any further because I'm coming to get you and whip your butt for good." as that prolongs it... how does it make it not go any further?

99/100 times a player will get beaned and take his base. Does he get beaned again? No. So obviously just going to first stopped it.

I was at a Jays game where a player on the other team (Mora?) was beaned with three consecutive pitches. I didn't notice because he charged the mound, which did NOT happen, I noticed cause I looked up on the Jumbotron after Escobar hit him in the 9th and saw 5th - Hit by pitch 7th - Hit by pitch.

He was hit with 90+ MPH pitches including Escobar's to the head. To just walk it off and stay in the game... THAT earns my respect.

nix · 08-04-2002, 03:44 AM

whatever man! how about i beam you in the head and send you into a coma!!!! then, you come back from it next year, only so i can beam you again, what would you do??? just TROT TO 1B???
i was at a mets game during the met amazing run, and i think it was r.person pitching. he beaned zeile cause zeile took him deep during his last at bat, and zeile just took 1b...from that momment on, you could've hear person brain talking and saying "Yeah boy!, this is what you get for taking me deep, the next time you do it again i'll beam u again, and ill keep doing it untill you stop taking me deep"
1months past and the philles and person came to town and zeile hit a rocket that failed to go out the park by inches, what did person do????? he bean little soft zeile again but this time zeile decided that he'll stop being a girl and decided to take issue into his hands...eeventhought he didnt have time to rush the mount he did speack his mind telling person that the next time will be a scary one for him and his familly.

Nirvana91 · 08-05-2002, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by nix
whatever man! how about i beam you in the head and send you into a coma!!!! then, you come back from it next year, only so i can beam you again, what would you do??? just TROT TO 1B???
i was at a mets game during the met amazing run, and i think it was r.person pitching. he beaned zeile cause zeile took him deep during his last at bat, and zeile just took 1b...from that momment on, you could've hear person brain talking and saying "Yeah boy!, this is what you get for taking me deep, the next time you do it again i'll beam u again, and ill keep doing it untill you stop taking me deep"
1months past and the philles and person came to town and zeile hit a rocket that failed to go out the park by inches, what did person do????? he bean little soft zeile again but this time zeile decided that he'll stop being a girl and decided to take issue into his hands...eeventhought he didnt have time to rush the mount he did speack his mind telling person that the next time will be a scary one for him and his familly.

Anybody else having trouble reading this chicken scratch?

Nirvana91 · 08-05-2002, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by crackpott
It doesn't take a man to charge the mound, it takes a man to walk down to first base.

Nor does it take a man to say "No this will not go any further because I'm coming to get you and whip your butt for good." as that prolongs it... how does it make it not go any further?

99/100 times a player will get beaned and take his base. Does he get beaned again? No. So obviously just going to first stopped it.

I was at a Jays game where a player on the other team (Mora?) was beaned with three consecutive pitches. I didn't notice because he charged the mound, which did NOT happen, I noticed cause I looked up on the Jumbotron after Escobar hit him in the 9th and saw 5th - Hit by pitch 7th - Hit by pitch.

He was hit with 90+ MPH pitches including Escobar's to the head. To just walk it off and stay in the game... THAT earns my respect.

I agree. Players act way too tough these days. Last night Frank Thomas got beaned in the thigh and looked like he might charge. Instead he just looked all hard at the pitcher on his way down to first, saying a few things along the way.

The thing is, he should be HAPPY to just be getting on base, considering he's batting under .240. Of course he ended up getting thrown out at the plate on a bad baserunning play anyways, so I digress.

CMH · 08-05-2002, 10:05 AM

nix, can i take a quick guess and assume you go to LaSalle, the only new york highschool baseball team that has a bunch of bitches like you in their squad?

"lemme hit you and keep hitting you...i am taught to charge the mound!"

are you kiddin me?

if LaSalle is exactly where you go, then i feel sorry for you. That fat a** coach of yours is the thing thats wrong in highschool baseball.

if you dont go to LaSalle, i advise you apply there. The school needs more punks like you playing baseball for them.

....well that all came off rather mean. I'm not tryin to disrespect you or anything, it just bothers me that kids are being taught to charge the mound b/c that makes you a man.

obviously you have a different opinion on the subject. I guess charging the mound and gettin thrown out of the game helps your team in the later innings.

i dont know, but i rather go to first, steal second (off the pitcher), fake the Shortstop into covering second, have the righty hitting behind me drive a liner through the 5-6 hole where YOUR shortstop should be standing, run through third, score, then look straight at you as i walk back to the bench.

if you wanna hit me next at bat...we can do it all over again. if you dont wanna hit me, then i'll show you with my bat.

Scott Vibert · 08-05-2002, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by YankeePride
i dont know, but i rather go to first, steal second (off the pitcher), fake the Shortstop into covering second, have the righty hitting behind me drive a liner through the 5-6 hole where YOUR shortstop should be standing, run through third, score, then look straight at you as i walk back to the bench.

if you wanna hit me next at bat...we can do it all over again. if you dont wanna hit me, then i'll show you with my bat.

And this is the way every child playing baseball should be taught. (Maybe without the stare down part, and I won't even address the rest of this)

nix · 08-05-2002, 09:58 PM

yankeepride - why dont you take your damn opinion and shove it up your asss cause it's where it belongs....no one ask you about your piece of shiit taughts..and for you to hide behind your pc and call peoples "bitchess" is just as punk-like as charging the mount and trying to defand yourserf. If you want to call me a bitchh then i'll be glad to give you my address so we can discust this issue.. i cant stand little internet thugs that act like they're mr-tought guy but in reality you're soft.

and scottvib- i never said its the way childs suppose to play baseaball because little leaguers dont throw at each other in purpose.,
noone said anything about children charging the mount. i was just saying that if you're gonna keep getting hit by the same pitcher over and over, that a man shoul take this thing into his own hand so it could stop.i dont know about you but these players have familly to feed and everytime a player gets hits in his head, there's a good chance that it could end his career. so i dont really want to hear about you telling me that it's okay for a pitcher to trow at a player's head and not do anything about it.
as far as a know, a major league player died because a pitched beamed him in his head

crackpott · 08-06-2002, 01:54 AM

If a player is purposely throwing at you, he'd be ejected, suspended, whatever... Being beaned once is not a reason to charge...

And YankeePride... I know it defies the whole argument, but come on... take nix on.

ihatenames · 08-06-2002, 02:11 AM

Charging the mound is just dumb. Not only does it hurt your team by having you ejected, umpires remember and you don't get the close calls. And if you charge the mound you're also supended so you hurt your team ever more. To me i don't mind getting hit, it helps the team. You wanna hit me everytime, fine, i'll take first anytime. I used to even step into pitches when i played. Its called taking one for the team. You hit someone everytime you give up a free base runners, and i'll say any team will take that.

08-02-2002, 08:11 PM	#1
nix Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 67	building your respect status around the league abd clubhouse. man, would u have the ability to charge the mount if you think a pitcher threw at you cause you took him out the ball park on your previous at bat.?? thast should be added. this action would help your character gain a lot of respect from your teammates( they wont think you're a punk) and you're get respect from pitchers around the league(they're think twice about throwing at you) __________________ nix Last edited by nix; 08-03-2002 at 04:40 AM.

08-02-2002, 08:15 PM	#2
nix Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 67	also i think that if you choose to be a pitcher (as your character) and your teammates was thrown at, by the opposite pitcher retalliating and hitting one of their hitter, migh help you fit in better in the clubhouse because of your couragious action. you may become the leader of your clubhouse environment. __________________ nix

08-02-2002, 11:46 PM	#3
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	wait, if you charge the mound, they WON'T think you're a punk? I know that <i>I</i> think that peaceful players who follow the rules are all punks... __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

08-03-2002, 04:55 AM	#4
nix Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 67	well , if you get beam with a 90mile fastball just because you took the pitcher deep, and dont do anything about i,t might promp teammates, guessing about your manhood. and sometimes a brawl brings unity to a clubhouse. this might help you for future deals and help your popularity to your team or something like that. __________________ nix

08-04-2002, 12:53 AM	#8
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	yup. When Piazza hit a homer off Clemens in that matchup everyone was looking forward to, that was much better revenge than charging the mound... and when Estes homered off him it was much more hilarious too. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

08-03-2002, 03:58 PM	#5
markprior22 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, illinois Posts: 1,245	crackpott...i think i love u

08-04-2002, 12:30 AM	#7
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	what does charging the mound or walking to first peacefully have to do with your manhood? i for one think you are a bigger man if you can walk away. let them know who's boss next at bat. as my coach always said: "Show 'em with your bat"

08-04-2002, 01:01 AM	#9
nix Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 67	whatever you guyz says , where im from(thebronx) we are taught to charge the mount everytime we get beam. you've got to understand that a man with a baseball in his hand is like a man with a loaded gun. i cant have cowards throwing at me just because im a greaT player. piazza never charge the mount because he's a fruit-cake. just ask mike hampton and a lot of the mets players that went to the world series, what they think of mike piazza. the guy is a great player but noone and his clubhouse respect him he's a softy mike hampton was quoted saying "Piazza is a great player but has no heart, he should had charge clement and send the yankees a message that we will not stand for this kind of bull-***" The yankkes trashed them away like little kids and they faded into darkness like chumps. brawls brings unity. __________________ nix Last edited by nix; 08-04-2002 at 01:06 AM.*

08-04-2002, 02:15 AM	#11
nix Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 67	i dont know whether i can find the source to it, but the quote was all over new yorks newspapers about 2 months after hampton signed with the colorado rockies. that's also one of the mean reason why the mets didnt want to trade for hampton with the rockies and bring him back to new york. piazza hate him cause he questionned his toughness. i understand 2 wrong dont make it right but sometimes you have to defand yourserf. it takes a man to say" no! this will not go any farther because im coming to get you and im going to whip your butt for good" letting it all hang out is good, Teammates appreciate a guy that'll stand for himserf and not take B.S! such action bring armony and toughness into a team and that may be what the doctor ordered for a playoff run. during the mets resurection they used a similar technique, they started a brawl and there we go!! they made it all the way to the series. asiah thomas detroit pistons used the same shiit too. __________________ nix

08-04-2002, 02:29 AM	#12
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	It doesn't take a man to charge the mound, it takes a man to walk down to first base. Nor does it take a man to say "No this will not go any further because I'm coming to get you and whip your butt for good." as that prolongs it... how does it make it not go any further? 99/100 times a player will get beaned and take his base. Does he get beaned again? No. So obviously just going to first stopped it. I was at a Jays game where a player on the other team (Mora?) was beaned with three consecutive pitches. I didn't notice because he charged the mound, which did NOT happen, I noticed cause I looked up on the Jumbotron after Escobar hit him in the 9th and saw 5th - Hit by pitch 7th - Hit by pitch. He was hit with 90+ MPH pitches including Escobar's to the head. To just walk it off and stay in the game... THAT earns my respect. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

08-04-2002, 03:44 AM	#13
nix Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 67	whatever man! how about i beam you in the head and send you into a coma!!!! then, you come back from it next year, only so i can beam you again, what would you do??? just TROT TO 1B??? i was at a mets game during the met amazing run, and i think it was r.person pitching. he beaned zeile cause zeile took him deep during his last at bat, and zeile just took 1b...from that momment on, you could've hear person brain talking and saying "Yeah boy!, this is what you get for taking me deep, the next time you do it again i'll beam u again, and ill keep doing it untill you stop taking me deep" 1months past and the philles and person came to town and zeile hit a rocket that failed to go out the park by inches, what did person do????? he bean little soft zeile again but this time zeile decided that he'll stop being a girl and decided to take issue into his hands...eeventhought he didnt have time to rush the mount he did speack his mind telling person that the next time will be a scary one for him and his familly. __________________ nix Last edited by nix; 08-04-2002 at 03:50 AM.

08-05-2002, 10:05 AM	#16
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	nix, can i take a quick guess and assume you go to LaSalle, the only new york highschool baseball team that has a bunch of bitches like you in their squad? "lemme hit you and keep hitting you...i am taught to charge the mound!" are you kiddin me? if LaSalle is exactly where you go, then i feel sorry for you. That fat a** coach of yours is the thing thats wrong in highschool baseball. if you dont go to LaSalle, i advise you apply there. The school needs more punks like you playing baseball for them. ....well that all came off rather mean. I'm not tryin to disrespect you or anything, it just bothers me that kids are being taught to charge the mound b/c that makes you a man. obviously you have a different opinion on the subject. I guess charging the mound and gettin thrown out of the game helps your team in the later innings. i dont know, but i rather go to first, steal second (off the pitcher), fake the Shortstop into covering second, have the righty hitting behind me drive a liner through the 5-6 hole where YOUR shortstop should be standing, run through third, score, then look straight at you as i walk back to the bench. if you wanna hit me next at bat...we can do it all over again. if you dont wanna hit me, then i'll show you with my bat.

08-05-2002, 09:58 PM	#18
nix Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 67	yankeepride - why dont you take your damn opinion and shove it up your asss cause it's where it belongs....no one ask you about your piece of shiit taughts..and for you to hide behind your pc and call peoples "bitchess" is just as punk-like as charging the mount and trying to defand yourserf. If you want to call me a bitchh then i'll be glad to give you my address so we can discust this issue.. i cant stand little internet thugs that act like they're mr-tought guy but in reality you're soft. and scottvib- i never said its the way childs suppose to play baseaball because little leaguers dont throw at each other in purpose., noone said anything about children charging the mount. i was just saying that if you're gonna keep getting hit by the same pitcher over and over, that a man shoul take this thing into his own hand so it could stop.i dont know about you but these players have familly to feed and everytime a player gets hits in his head, there's a good chance that it could end his career. so i dont really want to hear about you telling me that it's okay for a pitcher to trow at a player's head and not do anything about it. as far as a know, a major league player died because a pitched beamed him in his head __________________ nix Last edited by nix; 08-05-2002 at 10:12 PM.

08-06-2002, 01:54 AM	#19
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	If a player is purposely throwing at you, he'd be ejected, suspended, whatever... Being beaned once is not a reason to charge... And YankeePride... I know it defies the whole argument, but come on... take nix on. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

08-06-2002, 02:11 AM	#20
ihatenames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford Posts: 2,534	Charging the mound is just dumb. Not only does it hurt your team by having you ejected, umpires remember and you don't get the close calls. And if you charge the mound you're also supended so you hurt your team ever more. To me i don't mind getting hit, it helps the team. You wanna hit me everytime, fine, i'll take first anytime. I used to even step into pitches when i played. Its called taking one for the team. You hit someone everytime you give up a free base runners, and i'll say any team will take that.