Changing a FA's position Affects Whether They Talk to Teams

LawDawg · 09-30-2004, 04:18 PM

I am in a couple of online leagues and I was a little irritated that one or two Free Agent SP or CL wouldn't talk to my team. Mostly it was the "I do not like your organization" though one said "I want to play for a winner". Anyway, goofing around, I changed that players position from SP to MR and in one from CL to MR. This was done in the FA screen during the FA offer period. After that change, I again tried to give them an offer and they were miraculously willing to deal with me. Now I didn't test this by exporting offers to these players, because I think it is cheating. But I am curious if anyone has tested this out - I only tried it with pitchers it worked everytime an SP or CL wouldn't talk to me.

Now maybe once these jimmied offers are exported they don't work when the Commish tries to import them. Has anyone got any info on this? I was just amazed to run accross it and to have it change the FAs attitude so consistently.

This also could be an issue - in that if I have a MR who is headed to FA and I want to cut down on the amount of teams he will talk to, before the season ends I change his position to CL or SP. Same could be done in reverse if I want to make sure I will be able to talk to him, I switch his position from SP or CL to MR. I haven't tried this during the year with a player on my own team, trying to extend his contract.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-30-2004, 04:22 PM

Issues of this nature are being looked into.

Ktulu · 09-30-2004, 04:24 PM

Could it be that you already have 5 starting pitchers on your roster and they don't want to play for you because there isn't a spot open?

DaveHorn · 09-30-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LawDawg

This also could be an issue - in that if I have a MR who is headed to FA and I want to cut down on the amount of teams he will talk to, before the season ends I change his position to CL or SP. Same could be done in reverse if I want to make sure I will be able to talk to him, I switch his position from SP or CL to MR. I haven't tried this during the year with a player on my own team, trying to extend his contract.

The is a known issue. You can "cheat" by changinig a player to their cheapest position, the $ difference is usually negligible, EXCEPT if it MR or DH. Then the player becomes much cheaper to resign/arbitrate. I believe Markus said he was actually working on this one in one of this last few posts.

The free agency bidding discovery is certainly interesting, I've never seen that one directly, but I may have experienced it without knowing it at the time. I had a guy who wouldn't talk to me who played about 4 different positions. After he passed me up on the first FA sim, I check him again in the 3rd FA sim and suddenly he would talk to me. I'd never seen a player change their mind during FA bidding before, I wonder if the players position was changed by me or one of the other GMs during the bidding process.

09-30-2004, 04:18 PM	#1
LawDawg Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 49	Changing a FA's position Affects Whether They Talk to Teams I am in a couple of online leagues and I was a little irritated that one or two Free Agent SP or CL wouldn't talk to my team. Mostly it was the "I do not like your organization" though one said "I want to play for a winner". Anyway, goofing around, I changed that players position from SP to MR and in one from CL to MR. This was done in the FA screen during the FA offer period. After that change, I again tried to give them an offer and they were miraculously willing to deal with me. Now I didn't test this by exporting offers to these players, because I think it is cheating. But I am curious if anyone has tested this out - I only tried it with pitchers it worked everytime an SP or CL wouldn't talk to me. Now maybe once these jimmied offers are exported they don't work when the Commish tries to import them. Has anyone got any info on this? I was just amazed to run accross it and to have it change the FAs attitude so consistently. This also could be an issue - in that if I have a MR who is headed to FA and I want to cut down on the amount of teams he will talk to, before the season ends I change his position to CL or SP. Same could be done in reverse if I want to make sure I will be able to talk to him, I switch his position from SP or CL to MR. I haven't tried this during the year with a player on my own team, trying to extend his contract.

09-30-2004, 04:22 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	Issues of this nature are being looked into. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-30-2004, 04:24 PM	#3
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,506	Could it be that you already have 5 starting pitchers on your roster and they don't want to play for you because there isn't a spot open? __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"