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Old 07-07-2004, 02:48 PM   #1
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Questions for commishes

o Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?

o Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?

o What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?

o Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation of a sign that no changes were needed?

o Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make?
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Old 07-07-2004, 03:24 PM   #2
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Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?

No. I don't delete old exports so I have an idea of who didn't export each time I hit the import all button. Futhermore, If I need to check I can see when the last export was. EDIT: I do know which guys never miss an export as well

Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?

Usually, no.

What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?

I think it's quality not quality. Leaving an injured player on the roster or newly traded for players in the minors obviously isn't acceptable. I ask for at least one export every five sims as a matter of courtesy.

Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation of a sign that no changes were needed?

Depends on whether or not changes were needed

Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make

I think you can infer my answere here from other answers
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Old 07-07-2004, 03:38 PM   #3
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Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?
Yes, I do this now. The first year I was a commish, I didn’t, but now I do. The main reason is to check for people who have disappeared (which doesn’t happen to me often, but it’s nice to be able to check and see how long someone has been absent). It’s nice to have an overall idea of an owner’s participation history. Overall, I don’t have a lot of practical reasons for keeping track, but I find the info convenient sometimes.

Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?
No, I require no special notice that an owner will be back. I figure everyone is in indefinitely, unless they tell me otherwise.

What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?
I expect an owner to submit at least one lineup per season (at the beginning of a new season). Many owners’ management style is to not submit lineups regularly, especially if their team is playing well.

Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation, or a sign that no changes were needed?
Generally I consider it a sign that the owner had no changes. No submission for an extended period of time, and a lack of other communication as well, is another story.

Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make?
No. It’s nice when an owner tells you ‘No changes’ but it’s not necessary. If every single owner who isn’t making changes would tell their Commish, it would make things run more smoothly, and even give the Commish a chance to run the sim a little early, if everyone else is accounted for. I don’t expect it though; many owners probably don’t even know if they’re going to submit a team file until a couple of hours before the sim.

These are good questions. Ideally, a Commish will know all his owners well enough to be aware of their personal styles and circumstances. In my two leagues, I know the motivations and techniques of most of the owners, so I know what to expect from each of them. Of course, a new owner is an unknown for a while, but I have gotten to know most of my owners well enough to be able to tell why who’s doing what.
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Old 07-07-2004, 03:42 PM   #4
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Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?

Yes.

Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?

Yes.

What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?

I think it's unacceptable to have an injured (or in my case, an eliminated) player on your roster for more than 2 consecutive sims.

Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation or a sign that no changes were needed?

Depends on whether or not changes were needed, but generally I consider it a sign of non-participation.

Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make

No. If there are no changes to be made, then there is no need to submit a lineup.



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Old 07-07-2004, 03:52 PM   #5
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o Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?

Yes. You really have to. Otherwise, you would never know when a person abandons a team. And abandon teams are just a horrible thing for the league.

o Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?

No. I think it's assumed everyone is coming back. Otherwise, they will let you know. Perhaps that is just an assumption made on having a mature group of owners though.

o What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?

There is no exact percentage. If you run three sims a week and an owner missed every Sunday sim for some reason, but another owner misses four sims in a row, you have different situations, but the same number of exports missed. (Assuming 12 sims make up one season.) You are more likely to remove the latter owner, who has left his team abandoned for a decent stretch, then the owner who misses sims on a certain day, since the team is more likely to be actively run.

o Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation of a sign that no changes were needed?

It's a sign of non-participation. It takes about 30 seconds to send a no changes E-Mail, which is all you need to do. It shows you are paying attention and care. Whereas not sending a lineup or an E-Mail makes it look like you are out of touch. But we are very clear about how we interpret that.

o Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make?

Or a no changes E-Mail. This way we know everyone is participating and we don't have six teams that are losing 110 games because no one is minding the store.
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Old 07-07-2004, 03:55 PM   #6
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Thanks but I don't think I have time. I have been trying to get one of my better GM's to join. His AIM is belle 882002 if you wanna give it a run.
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Old 07-07-2004, 03:56 PM   #7
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Nope! Having fun there...

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Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?

Yes

Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?

Informally we do. Generally, the response is by sending in an export or participating in off-season activities. If someone isn't doing this, then we try to make contact with the owner. However, I would still expect that an owner would let us know if they don't wish to continue in the league.

What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?

At least one export or "no changes" email per real week.

Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation of a sign that no changes were needed?

Without an export, we would still like to have owners tell us there are no changes so that we don't have to guess about this.

Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make?

A no-changes email is good enough if there aren't any to make.
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Old 07-07-2004, 04:28 PM   #9
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o Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?
I personally keep track of the exports with a export tracker

o Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?I do require it in most leagues.

o What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?
Unnacceptable in my eyes is more than 3 in a row.

o Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation of a sign that no changes were needed?
I dont think so. Sometimes people have no changes, now after the 3rd missed export and i havent talked to them the entire time, i will send an email to find out what the deal is. If no answer in 48 hours, i move on with the team. Now i take all vacations and "i will be away" into account when this happens, but sometimes i run into the "my interent was down and i couldnt get a hold of you" so i have to take that into consideration. If they have been in my league or in more than 1 of my leagues for a while and then just *poof* they are gone, i tend to be a little more relaxed on missed exports. Most of the time, it was a computer error or an emergency so it all works out

o Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make?I myself do not require lineups if there is no changes, but i do like to know that there is no changes that way i can take my attention of that team and move it to a team that isnt exporting
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Old 07-07-2004, 04:51 PM   #10
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Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)? Not officially, I have a good enough memory to realize when some teams have missed an absurd amount in a row.

o Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season? In some cases. We're converting to ootp 6 now and I am requiring everyone sends an email stating if they are in or not.

o What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?

I dont care what % is sent in.

o Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation of a sign that no changes were needed?

Only if changes were needed.

o Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make?

No. Even still, I am trying to do a better job of this in my other leagues. Have I missed an export yet Shane?

My attitude has a lot to do with the league. The UBL is a historic league and I know a lot of owners just like watching the history unfold.

If I were commishing a fictional league (which is something I want to do at some point) I would probably be a little more strict.
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o What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?
Unnacceptable in my eyes is more than 3 in a row.
My mistake, I worded that question badly. I was thinking more along the lines of league wide. I've seen some commishes get very upset when only 16 to 18 of the 30 owners exported lineups. From my experience, that seems to be the norm rather than the exception.
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From my experience, that seems to be the norm rather than the exception.

Oh. I'd agree.
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My mistake, I worded that question badly. I was thinking more along the lines of league wide. I've seen some commishes get very upset when only 16 to 18 of the 30 owners exported lineups. From my experience, that seems to be the norm rather than the exception.
less than 80% is cutting it close in my eyes (24 of 30)....now if the stars align right and the moons of Saturn are orbiting at a constant speed i may get 85%, but in my leagues we average around 75% on a constant basis.....my SBL league runs a little less because it is historical and the player database is still growing so some teams just CANT make changes because there isnt too many options yet
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...I worded that question badly. I was thinking more along the lines of league wide.
In my leagues, I never see less than 50% league-wide turnout. I’ve peaked at 100%. I’d say that 75% is about average (for my leagues of sixteen and twenty-four teams).

I’ve been in a league where a Commish postponed a sim because of low turnout. That’s not something I would do, unless I recognized some overall cause for the low turnout, and it was beyond the owners’ control. Delaying a sim in order to wait for more team exports punishes the people who turned their stuff in on time, plus ‘the show must go on.’
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o Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?

Yes

o Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?

No

o What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?

Depends on the team....no concrete %.

o Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation of a sign that no changes were needed?

No

o Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make?

No, that is just pointless.


As long as an effort is made to keep the team viable I tend to let things go, there will always be different levels of participation amongst owners. Online leagues are for the enjoyment of each owner not just the commish, and each owner can determine his/her level of commitment. I have been in OOTP online leagues as long as just about everyone and I consider myself very competitive but I just shake my head at the level of participation demanded by some leagues...
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o Do you keep track of owner participation (lineup exports, etc)?
Yes, check out our GM list for details @ www.ourfamiglia.com/OOTP/FORT

o Do you require owners to respond if they are going to be returning for the next season?
Yes, we do an activity check each post-season

o What do you consider to be an unacceptable percentage of lineup exports (not including opening day which should be 100% participation IMO)?
We require a minimum of 1 export per week or email or post on forums astating no changes

o Do you consider a lack of lineup export by an owner to be a sign of non-participation of a sign that no changes were needed?
It depends on the sutuation. In FORT last 3 times I did an activity check EVERY team responded within 36 hours. Generally if somebody does not do an export I assume they are out of town, or did not need to make any changes.

o Do you ask or require owners to submit lineups even if they have no changes to make?
Read above, we require 1 export per week minimum.
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I’ve been in a league where a Commish postponed a sim because of low turnout. That’s not something I would do, unless I recognized some overall cause for the low turnout, and it was beyond the owners’ control. Delaying a sim in order to wait for more team exports punishes the people who turned their stuff in on time, plus ‘the show must go on.’
Oh i agree....i never postpone a sim for that reason. It's their teams and if they want to let it go then it is up to them. If they are in a playoff race and dont export is what baffles me.
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I run a league myself, and the only reason I have post-poned sims in the past had to due with hurricanes, or my wife...
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Im with him......or sometimes Comcast has a brain fart and will "go down"
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