Where's The Manual?

Klaatulou · 06-30-2004, 08:36 PM

...oh never mind; I give up.

phenom · 06-30-2004, 08:47 PM

on the floor, sticking out of the console, generally located between the front seats.

D Love · 06-30-2004, 09:44 PM

This board is your manual. I wish everyone would just fess up and admit it. Have a problem? Consult the board. Works the same. Just takes a little longer to find your answer.

tcblcommish · 06-30-2004, 10:23 PM

yeah but people can ask the manual the same question 10 times and not start a flame war

Skipaway · 06-30-2004, 10:58 PM

If you read the manual, you should have known where it is and wouldn't have to ask.

gmo · 07-01-2004, 02:20 AM

I don't know any Manuel, much less The Manuel.

Fool Inc. · 07-01-2004, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gmo

I don't know any Manuel, much less The Manuel.

Shut up and play along!

Henry · 07-01-2004, 07:01 AM

For what it's worth, here's the situation.

The manual was slated for a complete re-write, but the resources working on it got sidetracked with a new job. We are currently trying to reassign resources to complete it. We apologize for the delay and inconvienience, and we're doing what we can to move this thing forward. It was never our intention that this much time would pass. I'll try to keep you informed as anything new transpires.

phenom · 07-01-2004, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry

the resources working on it got sidetracked with a new job.

interesting way to say, "the guy quit."

Henry · 07-01-2004, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by phenom

interesting way to say, "the guy quit."

Not looking for anyone to fan the flames here. I responded to a question, and apologized for the inconvienience. I would appreciate folks not trying to start a flame war.

JimiP · 07-01-2004, 07:23 AM

yeh thats asllwelland good - but in the attempt to attract NEW owners and LOYAl customers, a MANUAL would help alot. It should be considered as aprt of the process.
Older users of V5 etc have a semblance of how thigns work in the game - but even their vast knowledge is strained by the lack of info.
yeh just a thought

Skipaway · 07-01-2004, 07:25 AM

Just hope this is the last time we have to wait for a manual.

Next year, OOTP:SI will be released with no new features but MLB licensed!!! So no new manual is needed!!!!

phenom · 07-01-2004, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry

Not looking for anyone to fan the flames here. I responded to a question, and apologized for the inconvienience. I would appreciate folks not trying to start a flame war.

sorry, should've added a

there. No intent to flame was there.

Henry · 07-01-2004, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JimiP

It should be considered as aprt of the process.

The manual was planned as part of the process - but the process got interrupted.

TheRugman · 07-01-2004, 08:34 AM

It just seems that resources are allocated to other areas without delay but completion of a manual is always put on the back burner.

It just isn't the right thing to do. Nuff said.

jaxmagicman · 07-01-2004, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry

The manual was planned as part of the process - but the process got interrupted.

If you want I will write the Manual.

Henry · 07-01-2004, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRugman

It just seems that resources are allocated to other areas without delay but completion of a manual is always put on the back burner.

It just isn't the right thing to do. Nuff said.

(Sigh)... let me explain.

Previous to the merger with SI, Markus was(is) a one man shop. The game is developed(coded) by him exclusively. About 2 months before release, Beta versions are distributed to the Beta team and testing begins. Multiple Beta versions are created and tested until release.

At that point, someone (other than Markus, since he has to work on patches) is assigned the manual. This is a volunteer assignment (remember the size of this operation). Under normal circumstances, this may take up to another month. This year, however, the manual required a complete rewrite since so many significant changes were made.

In this case, the person assigned ran into a "life change". Believing he could still complete the task, he kept plugging away - but recently realized the scope of the task was larger than expected and his time had become too limited.

We are thus currently arranging to have that task reassigned so it can be completed.

The fact that the manual is a voluntary task, and that it has to be started after the game's completion are the result of the size of the organization. I am assuming the merger with SI was, in part, to help improve this situation.

Henry · 07-01-2004, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

If you want I will write the Manual.

My understanding is Steve is going to try to work on the project while on vacation and I will do what I can, but I'm also doing some research for Markus and trying to stay on top of the board here.

We'll see what happens over the next couple weeks and then take another look.

Malleus Dei · 07-01-2004, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry

I would appreciate folks not trying to start a flame war.

That would be new and different.

I'm not sure they're up to it, Henry.

Chappy · 07-01-2004, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

That would be new and different.

I'm not sure they're up to it, Henry.

06-30-2004, 08:36 PM	#1
Klaatulou Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hays, KS Posts: 21	Where's The Manual? ...oh never mind; I give up.

06-30-2004, 08:47 PM	#2
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,774	on the floor, sticking out of the console, generally located between the front seats. __________________ reported

06-30-2004, 10:58 PM	#5
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	If you read the manual, you should have known where it is and wouldn't have to ask. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

07-01-2004, 07:23 AM	#11
JimiP Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lowcountry SC Posts: 226	yeh thats asllwelland good - but in the attempt to attract NEW owners and LOYAl customers, a MANUAL would help alot. It should be considered as aprt of the process. Older users of V5 etc have a semblance of how thigns work in the game - but even their vast knowledge is strained by the lack of info. yeh just a thought __________________ Love, Peace & Chicken Grease, chef jimiP

07-01-2004, 07:25 AM	#12
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	Just hope this is the last time we have to wait for a manual. Next year, OOTP:SI will be released with no new features but MLB licensed!!! So no new manual is needed!!!! __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

06-30-2004, 09:44 PM	#3
D Love All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 904	This board is your manual. I wish everyone would just fess up and admit it. Have a problem? Consult the board. Works the same. Just takes a little longer to find your answer.

06-30-2004, 10:23 PM	#4
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,444	yeah but people can ask the manual the same question 10 times and not start a flame war

07-01-2004, 02:20 AM	#6
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,437	I don't know any Manuel, much less The Manuel.

07-01-2004, 07:01 AM	#8
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	For what it's worth, here's the situation. The manual was slated for a complete re-write, but the resources working on it got sidetracked with a new job. We are currently trying to reassign resources to complete it. We apologize for the delay and inconvienience, and we're doing what we can to move this thing forward. It was never our intention that this much time would pass. I'll try to keep you informed as anything new transpires.

07-01-2004, 08:34 AM	#15
TheRugman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: St. Louis Posts: 22	It just seems that resources are allocated to other areas without delay but completion of a manual is always put on the back burner. It just isn't the right thing to do. Nuff said.