Please fix the "1 year signings" by the free agents

[BURNS81]

PLEASE FIX THIS ALL THE PLAYERS ARE SIGNING FOR ONLY ONE YEAR ITS SO UNREALISTIC.

[matskralc]

No it isn't.

[Mike D]

Please fix your caps lock, it's annoying. And players sign in baseball for one year a lot of times, go check it out. Usually it's one and an option, and as of right now, Markus has put in the option to give option years.

[BURNS81]

AROD singing for 1 year at 3 million is not real lol when he had a 5 year 89 million offer to him, would u take the one year??? i doubt it.

[Skipaway]

Be more specific? A player goes for 3 million when he has a 89 million deal or had a 89 million deal?

[BURNS81]

he took the 1 year 3 mil over the 89 mill 1

[Skipaway]

Originally posted by BURNS81
he took the 1 year 3 mil over the 89 mill 1

When? During the free agent period? You offered him 89 million while he signed the 3 million deal with another team during the free agent period?

[clarnzz]

Burns is right, the FA logic could stand to be improved.

[BURNS81]

durring the fa period happens every year

[gordyhulten]

I don't believe you, mostly because your posts are unclear and incoherent. In 26 years of my league, I've never seen anything like this, even losing players over a $300k difference over a 7-year, $100million deal.

Please post some more details. Be as specific and clear as you can, and please use punctuation and enough of a sentence structure so that those of us over the age of 14 can understand what you've written.

[SSG Troyer]

Originally posted by BURNS81
AROD singing for 1 year at 3 million is not real lol when he had a 5 year 89 million offer to him, would u take the one year??? i doubt it.

he took the 1 year 3 mil over the 89 mill 1

Which is it, 5 years at 89mil or 1 year at 89mil? Gimme a break. No way anyone would even be allowed to offer $89mil in this game without some serious editing to the financial system. Teams just don't have that much cash available. You must have totally edited, and therefore trashed, the financials.

The way you stated this at first kinda sounds like a r/l contract, 5 years totaling $89mil. And the game doesn't work that way. Do you even own this product, or are you trolling from a competetor, trying to make OOTP look bad so your product looks better?

And yes. Look it up. Many, many r/l players sign 1 year deals.

[mad0die]

We brought this up a few days ago as well and since then have added house rules to the FIBB OOTP FA process to account for the overwhelming number of one year deals that are being signed.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...threadid=62761

[RonCo]

Gentlemen -- Perhaps BURNS81 will come back and say I'm wrong, but it seems clear to me that he has said that A-Rod turned down a 5-year deal worth a total of $89M ($17.8M/Year) to sign a 1-year deal worth $3M. I hope we could all agree that this seems...er...odd.

[draven085]

This thread is a perfect example of how tone and presentation are important. Had I not experienced the same thing that BURNS81 is alluding to I would probably have a negative reaction to his obnoxious and relatively uninformative initial post. When people have valid concerns, and there are many of them, they should really take the time to write a well thought out post full of information that OOTPD can look at. That will do a lot more to alleviate their frustration THAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL LOL THX

[Another Mike D]

Originally posted by gordyhulten
I don't believe you, mostly because your posts are unclear and incoherent. In 26 years of my league, I've never seen anything like this, even losing players over a $300k difference over a 7-year, $100million deal.

Please post some more details. Be as specific and clear as you can, and please use punctuation and enough of a sentence structure so that those of us over the age of 14 can understand what you've written.

I am well over the age of 14 and I understand it clearly. Why must every reply on this board be negative when somebody posts a potential problem. I have seen this as well, not so bad as a guy turning down a 14M difference, but I have seen players favor 1 year contracts in several of my leagues...so much so we have a rule against offering them. I only have anectodotal evidence, but I do not see players under 34 signing 1 year deals too much in real life, unless they are trying to "prove" themselves or are in non-traditional situations.

Now that several people have verified this and most have satisfied your need for sentence structure and punctuation, can we stop the attacks and talk about the problem at hand. A person brought up what he believes is an issue, albeit an extreme version of one, and people are accusing him of trolling for competitors and sabotaging OOTP? Get real...OOTP has a solid following and is expanding its reach with each version. Maybe he is 14 and was just frustrated and didn't feel like posting in complete sentences...who cares.

[Another Mike D]

Dola...draven is correct, but it doesn't justify the reponse. It's not the thread starters post that sabotage the game, it's the negative replies from people. To quote the Simpsons...I bring you peace, I bring you love...

[Henry]

What "IS" important, however, is the extreme. If the $89 versus $3 is an exageration, that doesn't help us define the extent of the problem. If it's only an issue of veterans prefering one year contracts - that's a lot different than someone ignoring a no-brainer.

Does anyone have real examples ?

Henry

[Another Mike D]

Too many posts in 5 minutes...

To add something to the debate, I see many players sign high 1 yr contracts in online leagues, only to give a discount in an extension. This is why the league I am in banned it. You can sign a player who is market value of 10M to a 1yr contract worth 18M, only to be able to extend him for like 7M x 4 yrs or something. If you have revenue and cap space, the player will just grab the high offer, and then give a huge discount almost "forgetting" the insane amount he got in free agency.

Check out this dude in NGBL Withers. He scorned lots of multiple year deals to sign a 1 yr deal at 14M. Good deal (look at history). But now look at what he's making. He "forgot" what he got on the open market and took a low offer with no downgrade or anything. We can debate whether he was better off with a 14M x 1 followed by a 3.5M x 4, versus the 9M he was offered per year in free agency...but there is a problem when guys under 28 sign 1 year deals and then extend for 5x less.

Edit: He took that 14M x 1 deal over an 11M x 3 deal...then signed a 5 yr extension for what you see there. This was v5, but from what I can see in my solo play, if you offer them 1-3M over what their high bid is and give them 1 yr, a high percentage of the time they'll take it regardless of age. Then you can extend them for cheaper.

[gordyhulten]

Originally posted by Another Mike D
I am well over the age of 14 and I understand it clearly. Why must every reply on this board be negative when somebody posts a potential problem. I have seen this as well, not so bad as a guy turning down a 14M difference, but I have seen players favor 1 year contracts in several of my leagues...so much so we have a rule against offering them. I only have anectodotal evidence, but I do not see players under 34 signing 1 year deals too much in real life, unless they are trying to "prove" themselves or are in non-traditional situations.

Now that several people have verified this and most have satisfied your need for sentence structure and punctuation, can we stop the attacks and talk about the problem at hand. A person brought up what he believes is an issue, albeit an extreme version of one, and people are accusing him of trolling for competitors and sabotaging OOTP? Get real...OOTP has a solid following and is expanding its reach with each version. Maybe he is 14 and was just frustrated and didn't feel like posting in complete sentences...who cares.

Mike,

I (and apparently some others here) couldn't really understand what the guy was talking about. I was asking him to re-post a little more coherently, and I should have left out the crack about 14-year-olds. I still don't know if this is a problem. I just haven't seen it in the 26 years of my league that I play very close attention to, and in the hundreds of seasons I fast-simmed to play with settings.

Edit: The posts above explain why I've never seen it - because it (huge one-year deal followed by cheap extension) is not something the AI GMs do, and it's not something I do. Sounds like a problem for online leagues that allow do their contract negotiations in-game. Or is there a wider problem here that I'm not seeing?

[gmo]

My first thoughts on seeing a thread about too many 1-year deals in OOTP6 were back to last year when there was some discussion here of something I was noticing it my solo league in OOTP5. That was seemingly a lot of low- to mid-tier veterans signing 3-4 year deals in free agency for say something like $1-3M per year, then getting released very early in the contract.