OOTP-server reports - Page 5

ramincol · 06-19-2002, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by kcchief19
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After this, I doubt I'll ever play in online league again. . [/B]

Kcchief19
This is not how the leagues are run. There are a lot of good leagues out there so don't let 1 bad apple ruin the experience for you.

this is better than the WWE is at this time...LOl you cant scribt this stuff..

devaneyfan · 06-19-2002, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by kcchief19
Subby hit exactly what I was going to point out. Further investigation showed that Atlanta and Milwaukee were edited and that a player from Milwaukee was edited and traded to Atlanta, although Milwaukee had no owner and the trade was never posted.

After further investigation it was discovered there was no tampering with Brewers players. There were approximately 16 Braves players that were modified, most of them prospects.

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Even after Andreas' posts, I'm still fuzzy on the resolution. If we want to dissolve the league and get our order IDs freed, what is the process?

The resolution is that Andreas asked me who to send the password info to. Nothingman, the newly selected RWBL commish, received the password information and is in complete control of the league. This resolution is satisfactory to the vast majority of owners who were involved in the league at the time of this discovery.

Returning order IDs was not an option.

Specs · 06-19-2002, 01:12 AM

Subby's always on crack and drinks a lot of Fresca. Anyone surprised?

Dean Gordon · 06-19-2002, 03:46 AM

This is the most amazing and saddest thing I have read it a while.

Why the **** - pardon my language, btw - would anyone want to cheat in an online league? Why? If you are that desperate for inner justification play solo for god's sake.....

Part of the fun of OOTP4 is losing - it makes you want to work that much harder. Hell, in about 20 seasons of combined play in FBL, CBL, GMC and EBL I have never won yet, even though my team is often the best in the regs - but who cares.

Its a god-damn game. This is not life.

If the guy did cheat - dude, you are a waste of oxygen. Nothing more, nothing less.

If he didnt cheat, then someone please explain how the hell it all happened. Another owner could not alter the file unless he altered the master, then got the password to upload it and then uploaded it. Would someone go out of the way to frame another owner in this matter? Maybe someone with just a ****load of time on his hands and no life whatsoever - there are those out there, but I just cant see it.

Jesus.....

Dean Gordon
Commish - GMC
Commish - EBL
Owner - CBL
Owner - FBL

Subby · 06-19-2002, 09:17 AM

Hats off to Devaneyfan for having the stones to bring this forward and stick with it in the face of all the bull**** and disinformation and personal attacks Hornsmaniac continually put out there...

You're welcome at FOBL <i>anytime</i>...

WWBL Commissioner · 06-19-2002, 10:09 AM

I can't believe what has gone on in this league. Makes me very thankful for the leagues I have been involved with!!! I just hope that this one example doesn't make people not want to be in online leagues. I do hope it makes people investigate leagues before they join...wow, this is better than daytime TV

spleen1015 · 06-19-2002, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by kcchief19

After this, I doubt I'll ever play in online league again.

To me, this is the sadest part of this whole thing. HM has ruined online play for this guy.

kcchief19, I hope you're willing to change your mind. As mentioned above, don't let this one experience ruin your perception of online play. There really good leagues out there.

LivnLegend · 06-19-2002, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by spleen1015

To me, this is the sadest part of this whole thing. HM has ruined online play for this guy.

kcchief19, I hope you're willing to change your mind. As mentioned above, don't let this one experience ruin your perception of online play. There really good leagues out there.

Absolutely. I have nothing short of full respect and trust for the Commissioners of my online leagues.

Dean Gordon · 06-19-2002, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by kcchief19
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After this, I doubt I'll ever play in online league again. . [/B]
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KcCgief19, dude, there are a ton of great leagues out there run by good commishes.

Eric Wedge is about the best damn Commish out there, and he runs the CBL

Tom Shaffer used to run the TBSBA. Great commish.

Joe Ramsey used to run the FBL
. Ryan Feurer now runs it, and he is about the nicest guy you ever want to meet. There are also teams availavle, btw.

Heath Peters used to run the EBL and Heath put together a great league.

Kurtis Reynolds runs the CUBL and he is a kick-ass guy as well.

My goal as a commish is to make sure the gaming experience is smooth, flawless and fun for owners because that is the experience I got as an owner with Tom, Eric, Heath and Joe.

Online play is amazing - the challange of competing against 29 or so other guys who know just about as much as you, if not more is a rush. Beating them, whether it is winning championships - which I know nothing about, apparantly - or kicking their asses in trades - which I do

- is a great feeling.

Don't give up on online play. Find a good league, talk to owners before joining and then jump in when a vacancy happens. Bug the commish for weeks, asking for a team - he will make sure you are first in line as we all love owners who give a damn.

Cheers,

Dean Gordon
Commish - EBL , GMC
Owner - EBL, GMC, FBL, CBL

Shorty · 06-19-2002, 05:20 PM

Jeff Willett runs the JBL and is the best commish I've seen (well, only him and HM have ever been my commishes, so...

)

But Jeff makes it very fun for us and the cohesion of all of our league owners makes this a really, really great league.

Judge Judy · 06-19-2002, 05:40 PM

Bert.... if anyone speaks out of turn again, I want you take your gun and shoot them.

Delgadodawg · 06-19-2002, 10:20 PM

Man am I ever glad I decided to visit the Tech Support and Trouble-Shooting Forum

JimboGM · 06-19-2002, 11:18 PM

Wow, I echo what Delgadodawg just said. This has been both unbelievably unfortunate for an online league and hilarious at the same time. My only conclusion can be that HornsManiac is actually a 12 year old. Only a 12 year old could have been that immature to do all of that crap and then attempt to defend himself the way he did.

BTW, everyone check out the post in the LBA. It's a fictional story about an occurrence that happened in the Laseron world. But it's actually a satire based on this whole drama. It's hilarious to read it and now know about this whole thing. Funny stuff.

Here's the link:

http://www.laseron.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=89

jssewell · 06-20-2002, 12:05 AM

Now this is the most entertaining thing ive seen in a long time! Someone should film this as a movie and show it every christmas!

Otops · 06-20-2002, 01:57 AM

It was FUN while it lasted!

Jermanfu · 06-20-2002, 02:33 AM

This thread is the main reason why solo leagues are a good idea

Dean Gordon · 06-20-2002, 02:37 AM

"This thread is the main reason why solo leagues are a good idea "

Nonsense....

Solo leagues, like other things you can do by yourself, are only fullfilling up to a point. At some level you need to know your place in the universe vis-a-vis other baseball owners. You need to know that you can trade better than another owner, that you an find that gem round 3 draft pick, that you can pick up that amazing free agent cheaply.

The AI in OOTP4, while good, is 1/100th of what a real owner can do.

Dean
Commish - EBL, GMC
Owner - CBL, FBL

CommishJoe · 06-20-2002, 01:57 PM

Just because 1 im-mature bafoon decided to try to cheat in his on-line league doesn't mean that the idea is a bad one. Quite the contrary in fact. For me, running an on-line league is the only reason why I bought the game. It's still too easy to rip off the AI, so it's not really a challenge. What is the challenge is dealing with 27-29 other humans in trying to put together a winner.

Yes, finding a quality on-line league can be tough. The good ones have VERY low turnover so it's hard to get into the more well known leagues. So, for the most part, the new ones are a crap shoot at best. But, to me, it's worth the risk. Once you try on-line leagues, you'll never go back

Joe
www.trueleaguebaseball.com

Jermanfu · 06-20-2002, 02:09 PM

lol woah woah guys. I never said online leagues were bad. I was just trying to lighten the mood. That's all. If you notice my sig. You'll see that I'm a part of 2 online leagues. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way, I was just trying to make light of the situation. Sometimes we all need to take a step back and put things into perspective, that's all.

Dargone · 06-22-2002, 04:31 AM

I'm with you Jermanfu

Or should I call you Kevin

06-19-2002, 03:46 AM	#84
Dean Gordon Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 354	Jesus...... This is the most amazing and saddest thing I have read it a while. Why the ** - pardon my language, btw - would anyone want to cheat in an online league? Why? If you are that desperate for inner justification play solo for god's sake..... Part of the fun of OOTP4 is losing - it makes you want to work that much harder. Hell, in about 20 seasons of combined play in FBL, CBL, GMC and EBL I have never won yet, even though my team is often the best in the regs - but who cares. Its a god-damn game. This is not life. If the guy did cheat - dude, you are a waste of oxygen. Nothing more, nothing less. If he didnt cheat, then someone please explain how the hell it all happened. Another owner could not alter the file unless he altered the master, then got the password to upload it and then uploaded it. Would someone go out of the way to frame another owner in this matter? Maybe someone with just a **load of time on his hands and no life whatsoever - there are those out there, but I just cant see it. Jesus..... Dean Gordon Commish - GMC Commish - EBL Owner - CBL Owner - FBL

06-19-2002, 10:09 AM	#86
WWBL Commissioner All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hawaii Posts: 887	wow I can't believe what has gone on in this league. Makes me very thankful for the leagues I have been involved with!!! I just hope that this one example doesn't make people not want to be in online leagues. I do hope it makes people investigate leagues before they join...wow, this is better than daytime TV __________________ Offey WWBL Commissioner(2004-2014 real life years) WWBL: Hawaii Island Warriors 2005 Pacific League Champion 2006 Pacific League Champion 2007 Pacific League Champion 2008 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION 2010 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION 2019 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION 2029 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION The Island Warriors are 21-23 in World Series play. BadAssBaseball: Boston Red Sox 1906 American League Champion 1907 WORLD CHAMPION

06-19-2002, 03:00 PM	#89
Dean Gordon Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 354	Online Commishes quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by kcchief19 [ After this, I doubt I'll ever play in online league again. . [/B] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KcCgief19, dude, there are a ton of great leagues out there run by good commishes. Eric Wedge is about the best damn Commish out there, and he runs the CBL Tom Shaffer used to run the TBSBA. Great commish. Joe Ramsey used to run the FBL . Ryan Feurer now runs it, and he is about the nicest guy you ever want to meet. There are also teams availavle, btw. Heath Peters used to run the EBL and Heath put together a great league. Kurtis Reynolds runs the CUBL and he is a kick-ass guy as well. My goal as a commish is to make sure the gaming experience is smooth, flawless and fun for owners because that is the experience I got as an owner with Tom, Eric, Heath and Joe. Online play is amazing - the challange of competing against 29 or so other guys who know just about as much as you, if not more is a rush. Beating them, whether it is winning championships - which I know nothing about, apparantly - or kicking their asses in trades - which I do - is a great feeling. Don't give up on online play. Find a good league, talk to owners before joining and then jump in when a vacancy happens. Bug the commish for weeks, asking for a team - he will make sure you are first in line as we all love owners who give a damn. Cheers, Dean Gordon Commish - EBL , GMC Owner - EBL, GMC, FBL, CBL Last edited by Dean Gordon; 06-19-2002 at 03:04 PM.

06-19-2002, 05:20 PM	#90
Shorty All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 992	Jeff Willett runs the JBL and is the best commish I've seen (well, only him and HM have ever been my commishes, so... ) But Jeff makes it very fun for us and the cohesion of all of our league owners makes this a really, really great league. __________________ Here we go Redlegs here we go!

06-19-2002, 05:40 PM	#91
Judge Judy Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4	Bert.... if anyone speaks out of turn again, I want you take your gun and shoot them. __________________ Here come da judge

06-19-2002, 09:17 AM	#85
Subby Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 375	Hats off to Devaneyfan for having the stones to bring this forward and stick with it in the face of all the bull**** and disinformation and personal attacks Hornsmaniac continually put out there... You're welcome at FOBL <i>anytime</i>...

06-19-2002, 10:20 PM	#92
Delgadodawg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Vancouver Posts: 800	Man am I ever glad I decided to visit the Tech Support and Trouble-Shooting Forum

06-19-2002, 11:18 PM	#93
JimboGM Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 69	Wow, I echo what Delgadodawg just said. This has been both unbelievably unfortunate for an online league and hilarious at the same time. My only conclusion can be that HornsManiac is actually a 12 year old. Only a 12 year old could have been that immature to do all of that crap and then attempt to defend himself the way he did. BTW, everyone check out the post in the LBA. It's a fictional story about an occurrence that happened in the Laseron world. But it's actually a satire based on this whole drama. It's hilarious to read it and now know about this whole thing. Funny stuff. Here's the link: http://www.laseron.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=89

06-20-2002, 12:05 AM	#94
jssewell Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10	Thats entertainment! Now this is the most entertaining thing ive seen in a long time! Someone should film this as a movie and show it every christmas!

06-20-2002, 01:57 AM	#95
Otops Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 18	I lack speech or text... It was FUN while it lasted! __________________ "In a perfect world we'd all be Yankee fans."

06-20-2002, 02:33 AM	#96
Jermanfu All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 899	This thread is the main reason why solo leagues are a good idea __________________ "I took the two most expensive asprins in history." - Wally Pipp on his decision to sit out a game with a headache which let Lou Gehrig into the lineup for the first time. http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a121/Jermanfu/

06-20-2002, 02:37 AM	#97
Dean Gordon Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 354	Nonsense "This thread is the main reason why solo leagues are a good idea " Nonsense.... Solo leagues, like other things you can do by yourself, are only fullfilling up to a point. At some level you need to know your place in the universe vis-a-vis other baseball owners. You need to know that you can trade better than another owner, that you an find that gem round 3 draft pick, that you can pick up that amazing free agent cheaply. The AI in OOTP4, while good, is 1/100th of what a real owner can do. Dean Commish - EBL, GMC Owner - CBL, FBL

06-20-2002, 01:57 PM	#98
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	On-Line leagues bring out the best in the game... Just because 1 im-mature bafoon decided to try to cheat in his on-line league doesn't mean that the idea is a bad one. Quite the contrary in fact. For me, running an on-line league is the only reason why I bought the game. It's still too easy to rip off the AI, so it's not really a challenge. What is the challenge is dealing with 27-29 other humans in trying to put together a winner. Yes, finding a quality on-line league can be tough. The good ones have VERY low turnover so it's hard to get into the more well known leagues. So, for the most part, the new ones are a crap shoot at best. But, to me, it's worth the risk. Once you try on-line leagues, you'll never go back Joe www.trueleaguebaseball.com

06-20-2002, 02:09 PM	#99
Jermanfu All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 899	lol woah woah guys. I never said online leagues were bad. I was just trying to lighten the mood. That's all. If you notice my sig. You'll see that I'm a part of 2 online leagues. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way, I was just trying to make light of the situation. Sometimes we all need to take a step back and put things into perspective, that's all. __________________ "I took the two most expensive asprins in history." - Wally Pipp on his decision to sit out a game with a headache which let Lou Gehrig into the lineup for the first time. http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a121/Jermanfu/

06-22-2002, 04:31 AM	#100
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	I'm with you Jermanfu Or should I call you Kevin __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell