Is it just me, or is there waaaaaay too many stolen bases!!

Pimpinhockey · 04-18-2004, 02:16 PM

in simming some test seasons i have had guys breaking the century mark in stolen bases!! and its not only 1 guy i have about 7-8 per season stealing 70+. before i simmed i put each teams stealing slider in the middle and still way too many steals. is this a game bug or a roster bug?

Chappy · 04-18-2004, 02:26 PM

If you're getting too many SB, go to the Engine page and edit the era settings for stolen bases.

Raderick · 04-18-2004, 02:27 PM

I haven't experienced this at all. The most stolen bases I've seen by one person in one season is around 60. It might be how you setup your settings for frequency of stolen bases.

edm · 04-18-2004, 02:32 PM

If you're using the cbl rosters, he mentioned in another thread that you should go into the era settings and set stolen bases to "seldom" for realistic SB numbers. even if you're not, you can edit the setting to your liking.

Rich Tiger Fan · 04-18-2004, 02:44 PM

I have not noticed this, the Last season I simmed the leader had less then 50. I thought there might be to few...

Pimpinhockey · 04-18-2004, 04:37 PM

thanks for the advice, i checked my era settings and stolen bases are set to "normal" so i dont think that is the problem but im still searching for a fix because this is definately not normal or realistic

crackpott · 04-18-2004, 04:40 PM

I noticed the same thing when I converted my league. I had two guys on my team with 80+ steals when normally the league leader has 60 or so. But you can tweak this so it's not really a concern of mine.

statfreak · 04-18-2004, 05:30 PM

in my first OOTP6 generated league, I kicked steals up a notch and still am only seeing the leaders with 70-75 each season. Of course that's what I expected to see... this is with stealing set one level above normal with player creation set to +3% for stealing.

Not sure why you are seeing so many, but I'd guess you'd have to edit the ERA steal frequency or set your player creation % to -5 to -10.

TheBishop · 04-18-2004, 05:33 PM

I have teams stealing over 300 a season and league leaders over 90 a season, but I do have the era setting at often.

Just wanted Rickey, Raines and Coleman to get a few high numbered seasons in before I dropped it again

GODHAN · 04-18-2004, 06:33 PM

I have the same problem... League leader was 89, but there were 6 guys with over 70 SB.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-18-2004, 06:39 PM

Sounds like most of you with the high steal totals are using one of the "roster sets", that is the reason for the high totals. Over 10 years using fictional players no settings adjusted and the season high is 68 for an individual. Not a game issue.

Ben E Lou · 04-18-2004, 07:42 PM

And, technically speaking, if the Modern Baseball era is, as the game says, "1980+", then it should be possible for 100+ steals to happen. The average number of steals for the league leader from 1980-2003 is 72.1 in the NL and 70.3 in the AL.

Eugene Church · 04-18-2004, 08:24 PM

I ran a test league using the default career league and default settings...steals at "normal"...played it the way it comes set up...no changes in settings.

In the AL game league stolen bases totalled 1833.
In the Real AL last year the total was only 1279.

In the OOTP6 NL the total was 2273...Real NL MLB only1294.

Ichiro stole 98 bases in OOTP6...only 34 last year...Johnny Damon stole 65 in OOTP6...only 30 in MLB last year.

It looks like the stolen base setting should be lowered to "not often" or "seldom" to get realistic figures.

I will run another test season and post the results here.

edm · 04-18-2004, 08:36 PM

crackpott, not trying to be an ass, but I think there's something wrong with your sig. I got a loading applet message and it took forever to load this thread.

statfreak · 04-18-2004, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eugene Church
I ran a test league using the default career league and default settings...steals at "normal"...played it the way it comes set up...no changes in settings.

In the AL game league stolen bases totalled 1833.
In the Real AL last year the total was only 1279.

In the OOTP6 NL the total was 2273...Real NL MLB only1294.

Ichiro stole 98 bases in OOTP6...only 34 last year...Johnny Damon stole 65 in OOTP6...only 30 in MLB last year.

It looks like the stolen base setting should be lowered to "not often" or "seldom" to get realistic figures.

I will run another test season and post the results here.

how was this a default league with real players?!?

I don't doubt you guys, but I've been wanting to see those kind of steal numbers for the past few versions and even with bumping up the ERA steal setting, still am not getting more then 75 stolen bases in my fictional leagues...

Ben E Lou · 04-18-2004, 09:42 PM

The setting is "1980+", not "2003." There should be the possibility of some freak of nature stealing 130 bases. In 17 of the 24 seasons in question, at least one player has stolen >70 bases. About 30% of the time (7 times out of 24), the league leader has had more than 90.

rwd59 · 04-20-2004, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chappy
If you're getting too many SB, go to the Engine page and edit the era settings for stolen bases.

I am getting older and my eyes are getting bad, but I'll be damned if I can find anything about stolen bases in the engine setup. Where is it?

ctorg · 04-20-2004, 08:48 AM

I've noticed that all the eras have SB levels set to "normal". I guess Markus didn't get a chance to adjust the newly added feature.

04-18-2004, 02:16 PM	#1
Pimpinhockey Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 70	Is it just me, or is there waaaaaay too many stolen bases!! in simming some test seasons i have had guys breaking the century mark in stolen bases!! and its not only 1 guy i have about 7-8 per season stealing 70+. before i simmed i put each teams stealing slider in the middle and still way too many steals. is this a game bug or a roster bug?

04-18-2004, 02:26 PM	#2
Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	If you're getting too many SB, go to the Engine page and edit the era settings for stolen bases. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals

04-18-2004, 02:27 PM	#3
Raderick Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,737	I haven't experienced this at all. The most stolen bases I've seen by one person in one season is around 60. It might be how you setup your settings for frequency of stolen bases. __________________

04-18-2004, 02:44 PM	#5
Rich Tiger Fan Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wayne,MI Posts: 482	I have not noticed this, the Last season I simmed the leader had less then 50. I thought there might be to few... __________________ Crystalis Robins 1904 LBA Champs

04-18-2004, 04:40 PM	#7
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	I noticed the same thing when I converted my league. I had two guys on my team with 80+ steals when normally the league leader has 60 or so. But you can tweak this so it's not really a concern of mine. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

04-18-2004, 02:32 PM	#4
edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,999	If you're using the cbl rosters, he mentioned in another thread that you should go into the era settings and set stolen bases to "seldom" for realistic SB numbers. even if you're not, you can edit the setting to your liking.

04-18-2004, 04:37 PM	#6
Pimpinhockey Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 70	thanks for the advice, i checked my era settings and stolen bases are set to "normal" so i dont think that is the problem but im still searching for a fix because this is definately not normal or realistic

04-18-2004, 05:30 PM	#8
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	in my first OOTP6 generated league, I kicked steals up a notch and still am only seeing the leaders with 70-75 each season. Of course that's what I expected to see... this is with stealing set one level above normal with player creation set to +3% for stealing. Not sure why you are seeing so many, but I'd guess you'd have to edit the ERA steal frequency or set your player creation % to -5 to -10. __________________ Roll out the barrel!

04-18-2004, 05:33 PM	#9
TheBishop Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 165	I have teams stealing over 300 a season and league leaders over 90 a season, but I do have the era setting at often. Just wanted Rickey, Raines and Coleman to get a few high numbered seasons in before I dropped it again

04-18-2004, 06:33 PM	#10
GODHAN Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: LA, NY Posts: 123	I have the same problem... League leader was 89, but there were 6 guys with over 70 SB. __________________ Dodger Blue Forever LA Dodgers - Stat Geeks Anaheim Angels - Aaron Smart Baseball LA Dodgers - Big League Baseball

04-18-2004, 06:39 PM	#11
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Sounds like most of you with the high steal totals are using one of the "roster sets", that is the reason for the high totals. Over 10 years using fictional players no settings adjusted and the season high is 68 for an individual. Not a game issue. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-18-2004, 07:42 PM	#12
Ben E Lou Front Office Football Central Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Souf Cackilacky Posts: 1,762	And, technically speaking, if the Modern Baseball era is, as the game says, "1980+", then it should be possible for 100+ steals to happen. The average number of steals for the league leader from 1980-2003 is 72.1 in the NL and 70.3 in the AL.

04-18-2004, 08:24 PM	#13
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,268	I ran a test league using the default career league and default settings...steals at "normal"...played it the way it comes set up...no changes in settings. In the AL game league stolen bases totalled 1833. In the Real AL last year the total was only 1279. In the OOTP6 NL the total was 2273...Real NL MLB only1294. Ichiro stole 98 bases in OOTP6...only 34 last year...Johnny Damon stole 65 in OOTP6...only 30 in MLB last year. It looks like the stolen base setting should be lowered to "not often" or "seldom" to get realistic figures. I will run another test season and post the results here.

04-18-2004, 08:36 PM	#14
edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,999	crackpott, not trying to be an ass, but I think there's something wrong with your sig. I got a loading applet message and it took forever to load this thread.

04-18-2004, 09:42 PM	#16
Ben E Lou Front Office Football Central Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Souf Cackilacky Posts: 1,762	The setting is "1980+", not "2003." There should be the possibility of some freak of nature stealing 130 bases. In 17 of the 24 seasons in question, at least one player has stolen >70 bases. About 30% of the time (7 times out of 24), the league leader has had more than 90.

04-20-2004, 08:48 AM	#18
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I've noticed that all the eras have SB levels set to "normal". I guess Markus didn't get a chance to adjust the newly added feature. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils