A fun read while waiting for OOTP6

Antonin · 04-09-2004, 10:36 PM

I recently came across a 1993 book called "The Worst Baseball Pitchers of All Time: Bad Luck, Bad Teams and Just Plain Bad" by Alan Kaufman and James Kaufman. It was published by McFarland & Co., Inc.

The book is filled with statistics and funny anecdotes.

thaima1shu · 04-09-2004, 11:21 PM

Sounds pretty interesting.

Bonedwarf · 04-10-2004, 04:59 AM

A book with that title just HAS to be a winner

Damn, where was that for my birthday a month ago. Bugger

Steely Glint · 04-10-2004, 08:05 AM

Also, don't miss MONEYBALL, the most best baseball book I ever read.

DonD · 04-10-2004, 08:47 AM

What other baseball books do you all recommend ?

- Don

Steve Kuffrey · 04-10-2004, 08:53 AM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

Top of my list.

marklaker · 04-10-2004, 09:58 AM

Anything by Roger Angell or Donald Honig. George Will's Men at Work. A number of team oral histories by Peter Golenbeck. David Halbertstam wrote two fine books about the '47 and '64 seasons. Jane Peavey's "Koufax". Roger Kahn's "Head Game".

Just a few.

Mark

Modern Relic · 04-10-2004, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Antonin
I recently came across a 1993 book called "The Worst Baseball Pitchers of All Time: Bad Luck, Bad Teams and Just Plain Bad" by Alan Kaufman and James Kaufman. It was published by McFarland & Co., Inc.

The book is filled with statistics and funny anecdotes.

I picked this up at a bargain bin. Fun read.

Jestre · 04-10-2004, 11:13 AM

If any of you have kids that are interested in baseball history my son just read a book by Dan Gutman called 'Shoeless Joe and Me'. He read it in one sitting and loved it, Gutman has 5 books out in the series including ones on Honus Wagner, Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle and Jackie Robinson. The Honus Wagner book was just made into a TV movie starring Mathew Modine as Wagner and is playing this weekend on TNT.

As for us adults probably my favorite is stll the old standby 'The Glory of Their Times' by Lawrence Ritter.

Teddyballgame · 04-10-2004, 11:59 AM

^^^^^^^^^

Those books are great for kids. I've had many sixth graders read and enjoy them but I think they work for younger kids as well. Big rec from me for those who have or know kids 9-12 or so.

tyrus · 04-10-2004, 02:58 PM

Also check out David Halberstam's "October 1964" & "Summer of 49" Gotta agree with Steve "Unversal Baseball Association" is a Great Book. Any of the Bill James Abstracts.

Bonedwarf · 04-10-2004, 06:12 PM

I'm reading Moneyball right now (well, not right this very second obviously

) and it's a hell of a read. Only a couple of chapters in, but the chapter on Bill James is fascinating!

amitchell · 04-10-2004, 07:14 PM

You Gotta Have Wa.

tim_uwrf · 04-10-2004, 07:15 PM

Fences, by August Wilson. You could probably find it online somewhere, it is a play. Pretty short, but has good historic baseball references in it.

justgettinginfo2 · 04-11-2004, 01:08 AM

guess ill have to svae my money again to buy some books... I spent my allowance my wife give me on my pre-order of OOTP6

JML · 04-11-2004, 01:10 AM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...90256?v=glance

DonD · 04-11-2004, 12:03 PM

I don't think I can handle any more suggestions. I'm now waiting on a shipment of 4 of the above from Amazon.

Steve, the book you linked looks incredible.

- Don

Malleus Dei · 04-12-2004, 10:59 AM

Coover's _The Universal Baseball Association, Inc.: J. Henry Waugh, Prop._ is about a guy named Henry who blurs the lines between reality and fantasy and between sanity and insanity while obsessing over a very involved baseball simulation.

You guys really sure that you want to be reading it?

Especially the moderator?

KurtBevacqua · 04-12-2004, 01:35 PM

My personal fave, Where They Ain't: The Fabled Life and Untimely Death of the Original Baltimore Orioles, the Team that Gave Birth to Modern Baseball

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Easily the best book on turn of the century baseball that shows the business of baseball 100 years ago was much more similar to the business of the game today than most people realize.

04-09-2004, 10:36 PM	#1
Antonin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,553	A fun read while waiting for OOTP6 I recently came across a 1993 book called "The Worst Baseball Pitchers of All Time: Bad Luck, Bad Teams and Just Plain Bad" by Alan Kaufman and James Kaufman. It was published by McFarland & Co., Inc. The book is filled with statistics and funny anecdotes. __________________ "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" - Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), San Francisco, 14 January 1978

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Steely Glint Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 430	Also, don't miss MONEYBALL, the most best baseball book I ever read. __________________ "His eyes had the steely glint of a hired gun."

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DonD Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 71	What other baseball books do you all recommend ? - Don __________________ GGNL Athens Pirates

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Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846 Top of my list. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

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Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	If any of you have kids that are interested in baseball history my son just read a book by Dan Gutman called 'Shoeless Joe and Me'. He read it in one sitting and loved it, Gutman has 5 books out in the series including ones on Honus Wagner, Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle and Jackie Robinson. The Honus Wagner book was just made into a TV movie starring Mathew Modine as Wagner and is playing this weekend on TNT. As for us adults probably my favorite is stll the old standby 'The Glory of Their Times' by Lawrence Ritter. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

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thaima1shu Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 78	Sounds pretty interesting.

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Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,339	A book with that title just HAS to be a winner Damn, where was that for my birthday a month ago. Bugger

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marklaker Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 149	Anything by Roger Angell or Donald Honig. George Will's Men at Work. A number of team oral histories by Peter Golenbeck. David Halbertstam wrote two fine books about the '47 and '64 seasons. Jane Peavey's "Koufax". Roger Kahn's "Head Game". Just a few. Mark

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Teddyballgame Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 332	^^^^^^^^^ Those books are great for kids. I've had many sixth graders read and enjoy them but I think they work for younger kids as well. Big rec from me for those who have or know kids 9-12 or so. __________________ The roads in America are paved with cheese

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tyrus Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3	Also check out David Halberstam's "October 1964" & "Summer of 49" Gotta agree with Steve "Unversal Baseball Association" is a Great Book. Any of the Bill James Abstracts. __________________ Everywhere is walking distance, if you've got the time.

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Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,339	I'm reading Moneyball right now (well, not right this very second obviously) and it's a hell of a read. Only a couple of chapters in, but the chapter on Bill James is fascinating!

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amitchell Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 61	You Gotta Have Wa.

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tim_uwrf Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Field of Dreams Posts: 1,998	Fences, by August Wilson. You could probably find it online somewhere, it is a play. Pretty short, but has good historic baseball references in it.

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justgettinginfo2 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 155	guess ill have to svae my money again to buy some books... I spent my allowance my wife give me on my pre-order of OOTP6 __________________ POTD 3527 Wins - 3461 Loses Frontier Southern Division Champs 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2021, 2022, 2027, 2028, 2030, 2031, 2032, 2044, 2045, 2046 World Champions 2027, 2044

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JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...90256?v=glance

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DonD Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 71	I don't think I can handle any more suggestions. I'm now waiting on a shipment of 4 of the above from Amazon. Steve, the book you linked looks incredible. - Don __________________ GGNL Athens Pirates

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KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	My personal fave, Where They Ain't: The Fabled Life and Untimely Death of the Original Baltimore Orioles, the Team that Gave Birth to Modern Baseball http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books Easily the best book on turn of the century baseball that shows the business of baseball 100 years ago was much more similar to the business of the game today than most people realize. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner