Civ 3/Riskball update

tommach · 03-28-2004, 01:19 PM

Looks like there's some interest in this thing, so let me further enhance the rules.

I'm working on a website and should have something tangible in the next couple of days.

Okay, the concept and execution of the plan:

It's tentatively called Riskball (However I'm not particularly fond of that name, so if you can think of a better one, post it here.)

Basically, as stated in my last post, what if war was decided by baseball instead of guns and tanks?

32 teams (Countries) set up on a Risk-type board.

Fictional league that has a fantasy draft to begin and every year after the victor has been determined.

What country you get is random.

Draft is serpentine.

There are no finances.

After the draft there will be a one-week (real time) period for trades.

Once the carnage begins, no trading is allowed. (This is because once a team is eliminated, what would prevent them from trading the players they have to another team. So basically, if you're eliminated, your players, (The ones that haven't been taken by the victors) fall on their swords.

Okay, to the way the game is played.

After the draft and trading period countries will begin attacking.

They can attack an adjacent country. Only one attack per round.

Order of attack is reverse order of draft.

An attack consists of 7 games.

A country has four boundaries, essentially rings, that represent infiltration into their country. Once another country has infiltrated to the center ring, that country no longer exists and is taken over by the marauding country.

What determines how far into the country another country gets?

A country that wins 4 games to 3 moves into the outer most ring of the losing country. The winning country gets to pick 1 player from the losing country's team.

A country that wins 5 games to 2 moves two boundaries in. The winning country gets to pick 2 players from the losing country's team.

A country that wins 6 games to 1 moves 3 boundaries in. the winning country gets to pick 3 players from the losing country's team.

A country that sweeps the 7 games goes to the center and the losing country is eliminated. The winning country takes 4 players from the losing country.

If an attacking country loses the attack, as a concession of the defeat the country loses the amount of boundaries that were stated above. ie. 4 games to 3 = 1 boundary.

Another team may attack the same country but they must still infiltrate all 4 boundaries. As an example if Country A attacks Country B and gains two boundaries, Country C can't pick up where Country A left off. However, attacking Country B after country A has made infiltration may be smart since Country B has lost several players during the attack.

Which brings up the next point.

All Countries will announce their attacks before the beginning of the round. You may only change your attack destination if you have been attacked and wish to retaliate against your attacker. This prevents everyone picking on the same team during the same round. Of course, the next round they could.

Rounds continue until there is only one country still on the map, who are therefore crowned Conquerer and Ruler over all. (Until the next season, when we start all over again.)

I'm sure I've missed something, so ask away.

Anyone that is interested in participating email me at tommach@hotmail.com

Oh, I am the Commish of another league, so if you want to check out my other website to get a feel for what I do, check it out at www.atbat.net

EagleEye_0 · 03-28-2004, 04:53 PM

This sounds pretty cool.

tim_uwrf · 03-29-2004, 12:09 AM

Wow....great rules and really interesting idea. Great stuff.

MJohnson · 03-29-2004, 08:50 AM

I think you might want to add some 'keepers' to each team, 5-10, or it will be completely worthless to draft anyone under 25 at the beginning of the year draft

tommach · 03-29-2004, 12:43 PM

Keepers? That's possible.

tommach · 03-29-2004, 08:44 PM

Getting closer on the website.

Anyone interested in joining, email me.

tommach@hotmail.com

will update again when website is up.

potatoman · 03-29-2004, 10:34 PM

So basically the only way to eliminate a team is to sweep them 7 games? That's pretty hard....

Conmack · 03-29-2004, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by potatoman
So basically the only way to eliminate a team is to sweep them 7 games? That's pretty hard....

Once a team loses their top 15 players it will be a lot easier

tommach · 03-30-2004, 12:40 PM

The first time you attack the country you need to sweep them seven straight to make it through all 4 levels. However the next time you attack them you get to start from where ever you left off. So, for an example, if you win the first attack 4 games to 3 you will be inside their borders at level one. The next time you attack them you will start there, so now you only need to make it three more levels to conquer them.

SirOrion · 03-30-2004, 01:52 PM

E-mail sent.

tommach · 04-01-2004, 08:08 PM

Website is up and run...well limping along.

check it out at www.atbat.net and click on Riskball.

Go ahead and register and pick out a team name and nickname, like in the old Rotisserie leagues.

Jonzard · 04-02-2004, 01:49 AM

The UKRAINE is WEAK!

tommach · 04-03-2004, 12:49 PM

It's SIBERIA not the UKRAINE, and it's suppose to be just a representation of the world, not an exact match.

tommach · 04-03-2004, 12:50 PM

Now have 26 openings still available.

MJohnson · 04-03-2004, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonzard
The UKRAINE is WEAK!

excellent Seinfeld reference

tommach · 04-03-2004, 03:11 PM

Must've missed that episode, what's the gist of it?

Michael Xavier · 04-03-2004, 04:49 PM

Kramer and Newman were playing a game of Risk, and in the middle of the game, Newman has to go to work, so to assure that neither Kramer or Newman corrupt the state of the board, they take it to Jerry's so the game can rest on neutral ground.

Eventually, somehow Kramer and Newman are on the subway with the game board, and they get into an argument about the strategic value of the Ukraine. One of them, which one I cannot remember, declares that the Ukraine is weak. An immigrant from the Ukraine takes offense and attacks the board. I believe that is the end of the show.

My favorite line in that particular episode is when Elaine is standing in Jerry's apartment, and she sees the board setting on Jerry's table. Elaine asks what it is, and Jerry responds by saying, "It is a game about conquering the world, being played by two men who can barely run their own lives."

tommach · 04-03-2004, 05:21 PM

Classic.

And I'd like to apologize to Jonzard who said that the Ukraine is weak!

Having not seen the episode, I thought he was talking about my representation of the country Ukraine in the game, and didn't realize the seinfeld reference.

MJohnson · 04-03-2004, 10:40 PM

http://www.pkmeco.com/seinfeld/label.htm

"You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine."
- Kramer, close to victory in Risk, in "The Label Maker"

"It's Risk. It's a game of world domination being played by two guys who can barely run their own lives."
- Jerry, in "The Label Maker"

"I'm taking the Congo as a penalty!"
- Kramer, after catching Newman cheating at Risk, in "The Label Maker"

03-28-2004, 01:19 PM	#1
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	New League Forming/Civ 3 Riskball Looks like there's some interest in this thing, so let me further enhance the rules. I'm working on a website and should have something tangible in the next couple of days. Okay, the concept and execution of the plan: It's tentatively called Riskball (However I'm not particularly fond of that name, so if you can think of a better one, post it here.) Basically, as stated in my last post, what if war was decided by baseball instead of guns and tanks? 32 teams (Countries) set up on a Risk-type board. Fictional league that has a fantasy draft to begin and every year after the victor has been determined. What country you get is random. Draft is serpentine. There are no finances. After the draft there will be a one-week (real time) period for trades. Once the carnage begins, no trading is allowed. (This is because once a team is eliminated, what would prevent them from trading the players they have to another team. So basically, if you're eliminated, your players, (The ones that haven't been taken by the victors) fall on their swords. Okay, to the way the game is played. After the draft and trading period countries will begin attacking. They can attack an adjacent country. Only one attack per round. Order of attack is reverse order of draft. An attack consists of 7 games. A country has four boundaries, essentially rings, that represent infiltration into their country. Once another country has infiltrated to the center ring, that country no longer exists and is taken over by the marauding country. What determines how far into the country another country gets? A country that wins 4 games to 3 moves into the outer most ring of the losing country. The winning country gets to pick 1 player from the losing country's team. A country that wins 5 games to 2 moves two boundaries in. The winning country gets to pick 2 players from the losing country's team. A country that wins 6 games to 1 moves 3 boundaries in. the winning country gets to pick 3 players from the losing country's team. A country that sweeps the 7 games goes to the center and the losing country is eliminated. The winning country takes 4 players from the losing country. If an attacking country loses the attack, as a concession of the defeat the country loses the amount of boundaries that were stated above. ie. 4 games to 3 = 1 boundary. Another team may attack the same country but they must still infiltrate all 4 boundaries. As an example if Country A attacks Country B and gains two boundaries, Country C can't pick up where Country A left off. However, attacking Country B after country A has made infiltration may be smart since Country B has lost several players during the attack. Which brings up the next point. All Countries will announce their attacks before the beginning of the round. You may only change your attack destination if you have been attacked and wish to retaliate against your attacker. This prevents everyone picking on the same team during the same round. Of course, the next round they could. Rounds continue until there is only one country still on the map, who are therefore crowned Conquerer and Ruler over all. (Until the next season, when we start all over again.) I'm sure I've missed something, so ask away. Anyone that is interested in participating email me at tommach@hotmail.com Oh, I am the Commish of another league, so if you want to check out my other website to get a feel for what I do, check it out at www.atbat.net Last edited by tommach; 03-28-2004 at 04:22 PM.

03-29-2004, 08:44 PM	#6
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	bump Getting closer on the website. Anyone interested in joining, email me. tommach@hotmail.com will update again when website is up.

03-29-2004, 10:34 PM	#7
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	So basically the only way to eliminate a team is to sweep them 7 games? That's pretty hard.... __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

03-30-2004, 12:40 PM	#9
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	clarification The first time you attack the country you need to sweep them seven straight to make it through all 4 levels. However the next time you attack them you get to start from where ever you left off. So, for an example, if you win the first attack 4 games to 3 you will be inside their borders at level one. The next time you attack them you will start there, so now you only need to make it three more levels to conquer them.

03-30-2004, 01:52 PM	#10
SirOrion Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Posts: 263	Interested E-mail sent. __________________ I'm not cool enough to have a signature.

03-28-2004, 04:53 PM	#2
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,426	This sounds pretty cool.

03-29-2004, 12:09 AM	#3
tim_uwrf Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Field of Dreams Posts: 1,998	Wow....great rules and really interesting idea. Great stuff.

03-29-2004, 08:50 AM	#4
MJohnson Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: under an overpass Posts: 459	I think you might want to add some 'keepers' to each team, 5-10, or it will be completely worthless to draft anyone under 25 at the beginning of the year draft

03-29-2004, 12:43 PM	#5
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	Keepers? That's possible.

04-01-2004, 08:08 PM	#11
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	website up Website is up and run...well limping along. check it out at www.atbat.net and click on Riskball. Go ahead and register and pick out a team name and nickname, like in the old Rotisserie leagues.

04-02-2004, 01:49 AM	#12
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	The UKRAINE is WEAK! __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

04-03-2004, 12:49 PM	#13
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	It's SIBERIA not the UKRAINE, and it's suppose to be just a representation of the world, not an exact match. __________________ www.atbat.net commish/Phil A's wwbl houston astros nsbl colorado rockies babl NY Giants

04-03-2004, 12:50 PM	#14
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	Now have 26 openings still available. __________________ www.atbat.net commish/Phil A's wwbl houston astros nsbl colorado rockies babl NY Giants

04-03-2004, 03:11 PM	#16
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	Must've missed that episode, what's the gist of it? __________________ www.atbat.net commish/Phil A's wwbl houston astros nsbl colorado rockies babl NY Giants

04-03-2004, 04:49 PM	#17
Michael Xavier Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 455	Kramer and Newman were playing a game of Risk, and in the middle of the game, Newman has to go to work, so to assure that neither Kramer or Newman corrupt the state of the board, they take it to Jerry's so the game can rest on neutral ground. Eventually, somehow Kramer and Newman are on the subway with the game board, and they get into an argument about the strategic value of the Ukraine. One of them, which one I cannot remember, declares that the Ukraine is weak. An immigrant from the Ukraine takes offense and attacks the board. I believe that is the end of the show. My favorite line in that particular episode is when Elaine is standing in Jerry's apartment, and she sees the board setting on Jerry's table. Elaine asks what it is, and Jerry responds by saying, "It is a game about conquering the world, being played by two men who can barely run their own lives." __________________ OOTP since March 2002 Last edited by Michael Xavier; 04-03-2004 at 04:51 PM.

04-03-2004, 05:21 PM	#18
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	Classic. And I'd like to apologize to Jonzard who said that the Ukraine is weak! Having not seen the episode, I thought he was talking about my representation of the country Ukraine in the game, and didn't realize the seinfeld reference. __________________ www.atbat.net commish/Phil A's wwbl houston astros nsbl colorado rockies babl NY Giants

04-03-2004, 10:40 PM	#19
MJohnson Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: under an overpass Posts: 459	http://www.pkmeco.com/seinfeld/label.htm "You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine." - Kramer, close to victory in Risk, in "The Label Maker" "It's Risk. It's a game of world domination being played by two guys who can barely run their own lives." - Jerry, in "The Label Maker" "I'm taking the Congo as a penalty!" - Kramer, after catching Newman cheating at Risk, in "The Label Maker"