*Corrected Lahman 4.5 Database available from BigCityBaseball*

Scott Vibert · 04-23-2002, 03:13 AM

Here's what it corrects:

Pitcher import stat bug (I think I got all of these, let me know if I missed any): Pitchers stats will no longer be doubled if they pitched for more than one team in a season.

Missing Player Biographical Data: Players who debuted from 1998-2001, will now have the correct biographical information.

Incorrect birthdays: Some players (most notably those born in May and debuting in 1999) had birthdays that were incorrect, I corrected those that I saw, taking the birthdate cited by the most sources.

Its should be all set to go with OOTP4, if it isn't for whatever reason, let me know and I'll try to figure out if its something I introduced, or if its a problem with the game.

Thanks

Scott

jfgrauer · 04-23-2002, 03:51 AM

Scott,

I don't see the file at BCB. Should I look harder, or hasn't it been posted yet by Henry?

Scott Vibert · 04-23-2002, 03:55 AM

It's posted down with the roster files I believe. (In between the stadiums and the logos)

[ 04-23-2002, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: ScottVib ]

bravesfan · 04-23-2002, 04:18 AM

Thanks for all of your hard work on this, I know how time consuming and eye-straining it can be.

Dargone · 04-23-2002, 12:20 PM

Thanks

Tiger Fan · 04-23-2002, 02:08 PM

Scott
Any chance of yourself or Iatric (or anyone for that matter) making an adjusted fielding file so that position players will import with proper fielding averages and at the right position?

Under the current system you get things like Frank Chance being an outfielder, Jimmy Foxx importing as a catcher or Brooks Robinson having a fielding percentage of around .850 at third base.

I believe all that would need to be done is to change the players rookie year primary position and fielding average to his career average. I say 'all that has to be done' but I realize it would be quite an undertaking.

[ 04-23-2002, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Tiger Fan ]

statfreak · 04-23-2002, 03:39 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Tiger Fan:
Scott
Any chance of yourself or Iatric (or anyone for that matter) making an adjusted fielding file so that position players will import with proper fielding averages and at the right position?

Under the current system you get things like Frank Chance being an outfielder, Jimmy Foxx importing as a catcher or Brooks Robinson having a fielding percentage of around .850 at third base.

I believe all that would need to be done is to change the players rookie year primary position and fielding average to his career average. I say 'all that has to be done' but I realize it would be quite an undertaking.<hr /></blockquote>I have a file for the fielding (actually, batting & pitching as well) that replaces a player's rookie year with their career averages. The fielding will properly display each position a player has played in their career with the position they played most as their primary position.

The only caveat is that all players import with an E running speed rating. Iatric has the file, but his preliminary look did not reveal any abnormalties.

Please note, these files are only to be used to import rookies in an historic league as only a player's rookie year is included.

You can grab the fielding file (and the others) here:
<a href="http://www.statfrk.com/OOTP.html" target="_blank">http://www.statfrk.com/OOTP.html</a>

BasicGuy · 04-23-2002, 03:59 PM

ScottVib did you also fix the problem of pitchers from 1871(not sure on other years) haveing no pitching stats at all?

I'm working on a 1871 league and had to import the pitchers from the V4 database so they would have any rateing as a pitcher.

[ 04-23-2002, 10:29 PM: Message edited by: BasicGuy ]

Markmeister · 04-23-2002, 04:27 PM

BasicGuy,

The problem with importing pitchers from 1871 to 1875 is that the Lahman 4.5 database does not have any pitching stats for these years.

ScottVib,

I already have a file that has the stats for these years. Just let me know if your need them; all you would have to do is insert them at the begining of your file.

BasicGuy · 04-23-2002, 04:33 PM

Markmeister If what your saying Is true(and I'm not doupting you). I'd say they made a mistake some where since they were included In the V4 database.

Markus or Steve should be able to contact them since they brought Sean Lahman on as a Creative Consultant.

Or at a min maybe someone can release a fixed version for those of us that are replaying those years.

I've made It by just importing the Pitchers from V4 and Position players from V4.5

Scott Vibert · 04-23-2002, 04:38 PM

Basic Guy, Mark is telling you true the data is missing from the database. Mark PM me I'll give you the address you can send the files too and I'll add them into the database.

04-23-2002, 03:13 AM	#1
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	Corrected Lahman 4.5 Database available from BigCityBaseball Here's what it corrects: Pitcher import stat bug (I think I got all of these, let me know if I missed any): Pitchers stats will no longer be doubled if they pitched for more than one team in a season. Missing Player Biographical Data: Players who debuted from 1998-2001, will now have the correct biographical information. Incorrect birthdays: Some players (most notably those born in May and debuting in 1999) had birthdays that were incorrect, I corrected those that I saw, taking the birthdate cited by the most sources. Its should be all set to go with OOTP4, if it isn't for whatever reason, let me know and I'll try to figure out if its something I introduced, or if its a problem with the game. Thanks Scott

04-23-2002, 03:51 AM	#2
jfgrauer Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 58	Scott, I don't see the file at BCB. Should I look harder, or hasn't it been posted yet by Henry? __________________ Jon Grauer

04-23-2002, 03:55 AM	#3
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	It's posted down with the roster files I believe. (In between the stadiums and the logos) <small>[ 04-23-2002, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: ScottVib ]</small>

04-23-2002, 12:20 PM	#5
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Thanks __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

04-23-2002, 02:08 PM	#6
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	Scott Any chance of yourself or Iatric (or anyone for that matter) making an adjusted fielding file so that position players will import with proper fielding averages and at the right position? Under the current system you get things like Frank Chance being an outfielder, Jimmy Foxx importing as a catcher or Brooks Robinson having a fielding percentage of around .850 at third base. I believe all that would need to be done is to change the players rookie year primary position and fielding average to his career average. I say 'all that has to be done' but I realize it would be quite an undertaking. <small>[ 04-23-2002, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Tiger Fan ]</small> __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

04-23-2002, 04:18 AM	#4
bravesfan Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 47	Thanks for all of your hard work on this, I know how time consuming and eye-straining it can be.

04-23-2002, 03:39 PM	#7
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Tiger Fan: <strong>Scott Any chance of yourself or Iatric (or anyone for that matter) making an adjusted fielding file so that position players will import with proper fielding averages and at the right position? Under the current system you get things like Frank Chance being an outfielder, Jimmy Foxx importing as a catcher or Brooks Robinson having a fielding percentage of around .850 at third base. I believe all that would need to be done is to change the players rookie year primary position and fielding average to his career average. I say 'all that has to be done' but I realize it would be quite an undertaking.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have a file for the fielding (actually, batting & pitching as well) that replaces a player's rookie year with their career averages. The fielding will properly display each position a player has played in their career with the position they played most as their primary position. The only caveat is that all players import with an E running speed rating. Iatric has the file, but his preliminary look did not reveal any abnormalties. Please note, these files are only to be used to import rookies in an historic league as only a player's rookie year is included. You can grab the fielding file (and the others) here: <a href="http://www.statfrk.com/OOTP.html" target="_blank">http://www.statfrk.com/OOTP.html</a> __________________ Roll out the barrel!

04-23-2002, 03:59 PM	#8
BasicGuy Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ND Posts: 478	ScottVib did you also fix the problem of pitchers from 1871(not sure on other years) haveing no pitching stats at all? I'm working on a 1871 league and had to import the pitchers from the V4 database so they would have any rateing as a pitcher. <small>[ 04-23-2002, 10:29 PM: Message edited by: BasicGuy ]</small>

04-23-2002, 04:27 PM	#9
Markmeister Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 463	BasicGuy, The problem with importing pitchers from 1871 to 1875 is that the Lahman 4.5 database does not have any pitching stats for these years. ScottVib, I already have a file that has the stats for these years. Just let me know if your need them; all you would have to do is insert them at the begining of your file. __________________ It's not that baseball has ever had a shortage of ways to embarrass yourself -- dropping an easy flyball, being the one guy Heathcliff Slocumb actually struck out, realizing you're Bud Selig... Jersey style logos Vintage letter logos Vintage uniforms

04-23-2002, 04:33 PM	#10
BasicGuy Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ND Posts: 478	Markmeister If what your saying Is true(and I'm not doupting you). I'd say they made a mistake some where since they were included In the V4 database. Markus or Steve should be able to contact them since they brought Sean Lahman on as a Creative Consultant. Or at a min maybe someone can release a fixed version for those of us that are replaying those years. I've made It by just importing the Pitchers from V4 and Position players from V4.5

04-23-2002, 04:38 PM	#11
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	Basic Guy, Mark is telling you true the data is missing from the database. Mark PM me I'll give you the address you can send the files too and I'll add them into the database.