DD 2004 MLB Facepack coming soon

Draft Dodger · 03-17-2004, 01:40 PM

this year, I'm drawing from a database consisting of all players on a 40-man roster, all non-roster invites and a few selected prospects (all as of February 1st) - a total of 1,795 players in all.

of those 1,795 players, I have currently have some sort of photo for all but 19 of them; so 98.9% of the players in spring training are in the set. I do have some more prospects to add to the database, so this coverage percentage may drop slightly.

there are 1,745 "posed" shots (97% of the total players) and 1,290 "action" shots (72% of the players).
there's still a few gaps in the action shots - mostly players who've changed teams in the offseason.

I would estimate that about 85% of the photos in this set are brand new this year. Actually, technically it's closer to 100%, as most of the photos I kept from last years version have been touched up slightly (darkness/contrast, etc). I think people who liked least year's set is really going to be happy with this year's version.

I plan to have this ready to release on Opening Day.

I am looking for a bit of honest feedback - I've been tossing around the idea of putting up a Paypal donation button on my site for people who wish to make a small donation. But a big part of me thinks that I'm just wasting my time doing it and that it's a bit tacky as well. Please feel free to weigh in on any comments you may have on this.

spleen1015 · 03-17-2004, 01:45 PM

I don't think there is anything wrong with get some $$$ for your hard work. The money you get will be given to you freely by those who feel you deserve it. I say go for it.

jened · 03-21-2004, 12:26 PM

just installed your 2003 pics for my new 2004 league. will probably update a few pics for some of the new guys on my team and i say go for paypal.

Tiger Fan · 03-21-2004, 02:31 PM

Only potential issue I see with paypal is you do not own the rights to any of the photos. It could get you into hot water with someone who did own them...ie MLB or a trading card company.

I had a couple of people suggest I do paypal for my facepacks but I was advised not to by a lawyer friend of mine for this reason.

CD1083 · 03-21-2004, 07:34 PM

"Donations" - he would not be forcing you to pay anything, the money is for the effort not the product. He wouldn't be selling the facepacks...

dougaiton · 03-21-2004, 08:00 PM

What if you 'sold' a picture of yourself, and for every purchase gave out a free copy of your MLB face pack?

Seriously though, it sounds like its going to be great, and the amount of work you must put in you certainly deserve some cash for it, somehow!

Draft Dodger · 03-21-2004, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger Fan
Only potential issue I see with paypal is you do not own the rights to any of the photos. It could get you into hot water with someone who did own them...ie MLB or a trading card company.

I had a couple of people suggest I do paypal for my facepacks but I was advised not to by a lawyer friend of mine for this reason.

glad you brought that up, because I've thought about that as well.

not only do I not own the copyrights, I haven't tracked who does (using zillions of sources)...

but I'm not sure if the donation part would change much...I could STILL very easily get nailed by the copyright holder

Tiger Fan · 03-21-2004, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by Hagler
yup, anyone who does work like this deserves at least the opportunity to earn money for their time. If people donate, it's because you earned it.

I am certainly not arguing that point. I know firsthand how much effort DD puts into his facepacks. I just wanted to point out a potential problem were he to accept anything for that effort.

rem · 03-22-2004, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Draft Dodger

I am looking for a bit of honest feedback - I've been tossing around the idea of putting up a Paypal donation button on my site for people who wish to make a small donation. But a big part of me thinks that I'm just wasting my time doing it and that it's a bit tacky as well. Please feel free to weigh in on any comments you may have on this.

I can guarantee if you put it up, you'll get a donation.

Which 19 are you missing?

LivnLegend · 03-22-2004, 01:50 PM

Did you ever get Rick White? I was unable to find one with my last batch of submissions but found one today. I'm at work so I can not edit it.

Jeff Olsen · 03-22-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Draft Dodger
of those 1,795 players, I have currently have some sort of photo for all but 19 of them; so 98.9% of the players in spring training are in the set. I do have some more prospects to add to the database, so this coverage percentage may drop slightly.

I might have some portraits you can use. I was collecting them for a 2004 roster set that someone is putting together for Baseball Mogul.

Skywalker76 · 03-24-2004, 04:56 AM

Anyway, Draft Dodger we really appreciate your work. I think you have the best face packs around.
Do you know if your new facepack will be compatible with
OOTP 6 ?

Draft Dodger · 03-25-2004, 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Skywalker76
Anyway, Draft Dodger we really appreciate your work. I think you have the best face packs around.
Do you know if your new facepack will be compatible with
OOTP 6 ?

thanks.
I'm pretty sure they will be compatible.
I did have a thought a couple of weeks ago that Markus would change the format, and I'd have wasted a 100+ hours for nothing...but I think it's staying the same.

tim_uwrf · 03-25-2004, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by Draft Dodger
glad you brought that up, because I've thought about that as well.

not only do I not own the copyrights, I haven't tracked who does (using zillions of sources)...

but I'm not sure if the donation part would change much...I could STILL very easily get nailed by the copyright holder

I'm not a lawyer or anything. But if you put it up, it could "technically" be for your website and not for the photoset. Who is saying it is for the photoset?

twins15 · 03-26-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Draft Dodger
thanks.
I'm pretty sure they will be compatible.
I did have a thought a couple of weeks ago that Markus would change the format, and I'd have wasted a 100+ hours for nothing...but I think it's staying the same.

Ever thought of asking him?

Tiger Fan · 03-26-2004, 01:48 AM

Markus is likely a little busy right now but I am quite certain the facepacks will still be compatible.

Draft Dodger · 03-26-2004, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by twins15
Ever thought of asking him?

no one likes a smartass kid.

twins15 · 03-26-2004, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger Fan
Markus is likely a little busy right now but I am quite certain the facepacks will still be compatible.

Granted, but you know what they say, Better to be safe than sorry. And if he doesn't answer a PM, nothing lost by trying.

And, sorry about that DD.

Andy · 03-26-2004, 11:27 PM

Am I the only one who would find it hilarious if the format changed?

Draft Dodger · 03-27-2004, 05:51 PM

guess so.

03-17-2004, 01:40 PM	#1
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	DD 2004 MLB Facepack coming soon this year, I'm drawing from a database consisting of all players on a 40-man roster, all non-roster invites and a few selected prospects (all as of February 1st) - a total of 1,795 players in all. of those 1,795 players, I have currently have some sort of photo for all but 19 of them; so 98.9% of the players in spring training are in the set. I do have some more prospects to add to the database, so this coverage percentage may drop slightly. there are 1,745 "posed" shots (97% of the total players) and 1,290 "action" shots (72% of the players). there's still a few gaps in the action shots - mostly players who've changed teams in the offseason. I would estimate that about 85% of the photos in this set are brand new this year. Actually, technically it's closer to 100%, as most of the photos I kept from last years version have been touched up slightly (darkness/contrast, etc). I think people who liked least year's set is really going to be happy with this year's version. I plan to have this ready to release on Opening Day. I am looking for a bit of honest feedback - I've been tossing around the idea of putting up a Paypal donation button on my site for people who wish to make a small donation. But a big part of me thinks that I'm just wasting my time doing it and that it's a bit tacky as well. Please feel free to weigh in on any comments you may have on this. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

03-21-2004, 12:26 PM	#3
jened Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: upstate NY (saratoga county) Posts: 255	just installed your 2003 pics for my new 2004 league. will probably update a few pics for some of the new guys on my team and i say go for paypal. __________________ cooper_gd's OTWE Results OTWE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: KING JENED III

03-21-2004, 02:31 PM	#4
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	Only potential issue I see with paypal is you do not own the rights to any of the photos. It could get you into hot water with someone who did own them...ie MLB or a trading card company. I had a couple of people suggest I do paypal for my facepacks but I was advised not to by a lawyer friend of mine for this reason. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

03-21-2004, 08:00 PM	#6
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	What if you 'sold' a picture of yourself, and for every purchase gave out a free copy of your MLB face pack? Seriously though, it sounds like its going to be great, and the amount of work you must put in you certainly deserve some cash for it, somehow! __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

03-22-2004, 01:50 PM	#10
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Did you ever get Rick White? I was unable to find one with my last batch of submissions but found one today. I'm at work so I can not edit it. Attached Images __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

03-17-2004, 01:45 PM	#2
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,008	I don't think there is anything wrong with get some $$$ for your hard work. The money you get will be given to you freely by those who feel you deserve it. I say go for it.

03-21-2004, 07:34 PM	#5
CD1083 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,590	"Donations" - he would not be forcing you to pay anything, the money is for the effort not the product. He wouldn't be selling the facepacks...

03-24-2004, 04:56 AM	#12
Skywalker76 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 833	Anyway, Draft Dodger we really appreciate your work. I think you have the best face packs around. Do you know if your new facepack will be compatible with OOTP 6 ?

03-26-2004, 01:48 AM	#16
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	Markus is likely a little busy right now but I am quite certain the facepacks will still be compatible. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

03-26-2004, 11:27 PM	#19
Andy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 2,270	Am I the only one who would find it hilarious if the format changed?

03-27-2004, 05:51 PM	#20
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	guess so. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.