Sheffield injures thumb

Rowleyball · 03-08-2004, 03:39 PM

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While watching the Mariners / Angels game on ESPN, they announced that he was indeed going to be out for three months.

I wonder how this will change the outfield situation for the Yankees now. I saw Travis Lee getting some playing time in the outfield; maybe he'll fill in at LF and Matsui will move to RF? We know that the Yankees will probably get someone to fill in for him, but it should be interesting to see how the lineup will now look without Sheffield in there if they can't make a move before Opening Day.

EDIT - fixed link

matskralc · 03-08-2004, 03:42 PM

[Red Sox fanboy]

They'll just go out and buy somebody else!!!!!1

[/Red Sox fanboy]

SoxWin · 03-08-2004, 03:47 PM

Lofton likely plays center, not sure if Matsui's arm is stronger then Bernie's wet noodle but they'll likely play the corners with Lee playing 1B and Giambi DH'ing.

I'm sure they'd like to bring someone else in but this close to opening day it will be hard to work a trade. Also, they don't have a ton of trade bait left.

KurtBevacqua · 03-08-2004, 03:51 PM

And the first of what I predict to be many significant injuries hits the Yanks. Just a matter of time before Lofton and Williams go down too.

atarizx3 · 03-08-2004, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by matskralc
[Just about every baseball fan except those stinking Yank-loving ones]

They'll just go out and buy somebody else!!!!!1

[/Just about every baseball fan except those stinking Yank-loving ones]

There, fixed that for ya!

jmaness84 · 03-08-2004, 03:54 PM

Being a Braves fan and a Yankee hater it makes it double special.

TheRaven · 03-08-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by atarizx3
There, fixed that for ya!

Nah, there is enough smart people that are not Yankee fans out there that realize that the rules in baseball themselves are to blame, and not the Yankees specifically. Yes, though, it does get old for the Yankees signing players, but until baseball itself fixes their own problems, then there is nothing wrong with it in itself.

LiftTheCurse · 03-08-2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by KurtBevacqua
And the first of what I predict to be many significant injuries hits the Yanks. Just a matter of time before Lofton and Williams go down too.

Yeah...Agreed. Bernie is already down with a injury right now

My guess would ne Giambi is next with his bad knees.

rogmax11 · 03-08-2004, 08:23 PM

Poor Sheff... obviously insufficient HGH.

draven085 · 03-08-2004, 11:10 PM

[denton true]
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA~!!!!!
[/denton true]

Swan · 03-09-2004, 01:14 AM

List of Yankees who are "Red Lighted" (Extremely likely to go on DL) by Prospectus' Will Carroll:

Jason Giambi
Bernie Williams
Kevin Brown

List of Yankees getting "Yellow Light" (Likely to go on DL) by same:

Kenny Lofton
Gary Sheffield
Derek Jeter
Jorge Posada
Javier Vazquez
Jose Conteras
Jon Lieber
Mariano Rivera

Clearly the Yankees money can only help them just so much. Any guesses on who the next Yankee is to go down? Mine is Kevin Brown.

TheRaven · 03-09-2004, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Swan
List of Yankees who are "Red Lighted" (Extremely likely to go on DL) by Prospectus' Will Carroll:

Jason Giambi
Bernie Williams
Kevin Brown

List of Yankees getting "Yellow Light" (Likely to go on DL) by same:

Kenny Lofton
Gary Sheffield
Derek Jeter
Jorge Posada
Javier Vazquez
Jose Conteras
Jon Lieber
Mariano Rivera

Clearly the Yankees money can only help them just so much. Any guesses on who the next Yankee is to go down? Mine is Kevin Brown.

I say Liebs, since he's already having probs.

AnotherAlias · 03-09-2004, 08:47 AM

[Mark Prior]
I thought I took care of Sheffield's hand in last years playoffs.
[/Mark Prior]

CH4OS · 03-09-2004, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by Swan
List of Yankees who are "Red Lighted" (Extremely likely to go on DL) by Prospectus' Will Carroll:

Jason Giambi
Bernie Williams
Kevin Brown

List of Yankees getting "Yellow Light" (Likely to go on DL) by same:

Kenny Lofton
Gary Sheffield
Derek Jeter
Jorge Posada
Javier Vazquez
Jose Conteras
Jon Lieber
Mariano Rivera

Clearly the Yankees money can only help them just so much. Any guesses on who the next Yankee is to go down? Mine is Kevin Brown.

I would say Jason Giambi...

dougaiton · 03-09-2004, 09:06 AM

There were some great stats posted about Brown's likelihood of making it through the next two years (something like 60% risk of missing most of at least one of the next two) in one of the earlier threads - potentially 'Colon to Anaheim'.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-09-2004, 09:07 AM

I like Shef but it couldn't have happened to a more appropriate team.....just means Georgie drop "another" $20M to get another player....oh well.

dougaiton · 03-09-2004, 09:15 AM

Here's those numbers about Brown I mentioned, courtesy of Skipaway

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Originally posted by Skipaway
This is what the predicting system on baseballprospectus.com PECOTA think:

Player 04A 04D 05A 05D 06A 06D 07A 07D
Colon 17.9 5.5 23.7 12.1 30.0 18.5 37.4 21.7
Pettitte 34.4 8.5 38.5 13.3 46.1 25.2 59.7 37.9
K. Brown 60.3 33.1 66.2 58.9
Millwood 12.3 5.2 21.4 9.4 25.8 14.9 33.3 19.4
Glavine 35.0 15.4 43.2 36.8

Attrition Rate(A) is the percent chance that a player's plate appearances will decrease by half from his average of the past three seasons.

Drop Rate(D) is the percent chance that a player will have no plate appearances at all.

If these were proved accurate, Brown has a 60% chance, if he makes it through this year unscathed, of missing the whole next one. First he has to negotiate this year, which he has a 60% chance of only pitching half his normal number of innings.

spleen1015 · 03-09-2004, 10:14 AM

I never like to hear about anyone getting hurt, but when it is a Yankee....

Swan · 03-09-2004, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougaiton
Here's those numbers about Brown I mentioned, courtesy of Skipaway

If these were proved accurate, Brown has a 60% chance, if he makes it through this year unscathed, of missing the whole next one. First he has to negotiate this year, which he has a 60% chance of only pitching half his normal number of innings.

I never realised until that post that Pettitte was *that* much of a risk. I hope he he works out for the Astros, he's my current favoriter pitcher.

The one thing about the Yankees just going out and getting any ol' player they feel like, is that they have an extremely thin farm system, except for Navarro, and I think their is one decent pitching prospect, I forget who, but with the likelihood of a Brown or Lieber injury, they can't afford to give him up either. (Who is the pitching prospect i'm thinking of? i can't remember his darn name.

)

TotalEnd98 · 03-09-2004, 02:22 PM

ESPN.com reports Sheffield will play through the injury and be back later this week.

Swan
I believe you're thinking of Jorge DePaula.

03-08-2004, 03:39 PM	#1
Rowleyball Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 265	Sheffield injures thumb link While watching the Mariners / Angels game on ESPN, they announced that he was indeed going to be out for three months. I wonder how this will change the outfield situation for the Yankees now. I saw Travis Lee getting some playing time in the outfield; maybe he'll fill in at LF and Matsui will move to RF? We know that the Yankees will probably get someone to fill in for him, but it should be interesting to see how the lineup will now look without Sheffield in there if they can't make a move before Opening Day. EDIT - fixed link Last edited by Rowleyball; 03-08-2004 at 03:57 PM.

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03-09-2004, 09:06 AM	#15
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	There were some great stats posted about Brown's likelihood of making it through the next two years (something like 60% risk of missing most of at least one of the next two) in one of the earlier threads - potentially 'Colon to Anaheim'. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

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jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	Being a Braves fan and a Yankee hater it makes it double special.

03-08-2004, 08:23 PM	#9
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	Poor Sheff... obviously insufficient HGH.

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draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	[denton true] BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA~!!!!! [/denton true]

03-09-2004, 01:14 AM	#11
Swan Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 315	List of Yankees who are "Red Lighted" (Extremely likely to go on DL) by Prospectus' Will Carroll: Jason Giambi Bernie Williams Kevin Brown List of Yankees getting "Yellow Light" (Likely to go on DL) by same: Kenny Lofton Gary Sheffield Derek Jeter Jorge Posada Javier Vazquez Jose Conteras Jon Lieber Mariano Rivera Clearly the Yankees money can only help them just so much. Any guesses on who the next Yankee is to go down? Mine is Kevin Brown.

03-09-2004, 08:47 AM	#13
AnotherAlias Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm back...for now Posts: 4,190	[Mark Prior] I thought I took care of Sheffield's hand in last years playoffs. [/Mark Prior]

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Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	I like Shef but it couldn't have happened to a more appropriate team.....just means Georgie drop "another" $20M to get another player....oh well. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-09-2004, 10:14 AM	#18
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,000	I never like to hear about anyone getting hurt, but when it is a Yankee....

03-09-2004, 02:22 PM	#20
TotalEnd98 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,687	ESPN.com reports Sheffield will play through the injury and be back later this week. Swan I believe you're thinking of Jorge DePaula. __________________ OTBL - Scandinavia Cartoon Heroes This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.