NO Rookie of Year?!?!?1

NYJuggalo45 · 04-15-2002, 02:48 AM

Just got down playing 2004 with rolen's rosters and very strangely there was no NL Rookie of the Year. There was however an AL one, so I wanted to make sure there were some NL rookies who qualified, and there were quite of few position players with over 250 ab, and rookie pitchers with over 60 ip, so my question is why did this happen? Another add to the story, I just installed the new patch around playoff time, any possibility there is a bug in the new patch?

Steve Kuffrey · 04-15-2002, 02:54 AM

I'm fairly certain that the players have to have more playing time than that to be considered(atleast within the game), but not sure of the exact requirements. If I were to guess it would be same requirements to win batting title or ERA crown.

Would be nice to be able to adjust these however.

Scott Vibert · 04-15-2002, 03:27 AM

You can award your own Rookie of the Year in these situations, just review the stats, make your choice and edit the league history file (and the player history if you so choose) to reflect your selection for rookie of the year.

The game seems to require (as Steve mentioned) that players eligible for the award be qualifiers for the Batting Average or ERA crowns.

bkurtz · 04-15-2002, 03:51 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ScottVib:
The game seems to require (as Steve mentioned) that players eligible for the award be qualifiers for the Batting Average or ERA crowns.<hr /></blockquote>however, it doesn't work properly some times. I had a rookie who started 30 games, going 16-5, 3.46 era, and the game didn't award anybody as roy that year. he didn't show up in some of the stats leaders as rookie (era) but did at wins. it was his first season.

Hammer755 · 04-15-2002, 04:23 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by bkurtz:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ScottVib:
The game seems to require (as Steve mentioned) that players eligible for the award be qualifiers for the Batting Average or ERA crowns.<hr /></blockquote>however, it doesn't work properly some times. I had a rookie who started 30 games, going 16-5, 3.46 era, and the game didn't award anybody as roy that year. he didn't show up in some of the stats leaders as rookie (era) but did at wins. it was his first season.<hr /></blockquote>The fact that his name didn't show up under the some of the rookie stats leaders indicates he probably didn't pitch enough innings to qualify for ROY, or the ERA title, etc. Even if he started 30 games, if he averaged 5 IP per start, he'd only finish with 150 IP and not qualify. I believe the qualifier is 162 IP (or 1 IP per game your team played).

bigphesta · 04-15-2002, 06:40 AM

Is this pro-rated based on the # of games you use in your season? I'm doing a solo 'softball' play league where there's only 40 games, so will I get ANY awards?

Scott Vibert · 04-15-2002, 06:44 AM

If you used the schedule generator to set the number of games in your season you'll have no issues getting award winners. If not, you should still get some (but not all) of the award winners and some of the leaders.

The quick way to check is to look at the magic numbers for the teams in your league (from the News section -> Standings report), if the magic numbers are based on a 40 game season you are alright, if they are based on 162, well then you might not get all the records etc. that you were expecting. You'll have to enter the average/percentage records manually and correct the problem by first backing up the schedule file (save with a different name), then deleting the schedule file, generating a 40 game schedule, then replacing it with your old schedule.dat file.

Hope this helps

[ 04-15-2002, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: ScottVib ]

bkurtz · 04-15-2002, 07:06 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Hammer755:
The fact that his name didn't show up under the some of the rookie stats leaders indicates he probably didn't pitch enough innings to qualify for ROY, or the ERA title, etc. Even if he started 30 games, if he averaged 5 IP per start, he'd only finish with 150 IP and not qualify. I believe the qualifier is 162 IP (or 1 IP per game your team played).[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>actually, you're right hammer. he pitched 161.1 innings, so guess the game does work properly then.

Henry · 04-15-2002, 07:22 AM

Wow... if that were me, I'd be "P____ off" if I missed the award by 2 outs !! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

joshuaaaaaa · 04-15-2002, 10:23 AM

Sometimes the computer is really strapped for picks. One year, it gave the ROY to a pitcher who was something like 9-15 with an ERA near 5.00. I guess it was just a terrible rookie class.

Carplos · 04-15-2002, 10:54 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Henry:
Wow... if that were me, I'd be "P____ off" if I missed the award by 2 outs !!

<hr /></blockquote>Not sure if OOTP incorporates this, but in real MLB, if you'd still lead BA by adding the extra PA you need and no hits, you still get the title. Kinda hard to do something similar to ERA, so I don't think they do.

bigphesta · 04-16-2002, 02:27 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ScottVib:
If you used the schedule generator to set the number of games in your season you'll have no issues getting award winners. If not, you should still get some (but not all) of the award winners and some of the leaders.

The quick way to check is to look at the magic numbers for the teams in your league (from the News section -> Standings report), if the magic numbers are based on a 40 game season you are alright, if they are based on 162, well then you might not get all the records etc. that you were expecting. You'll have to enter the average/percentage records manually and correct the problem by first backing up the schedule file (save with a different name), then deleting the schedule file, generating a 40 game schedule, then replacing it with your old schedule.dat file.

Hope this helps<hr /></blockquote>Thanks a TON Scott. This worked perfectly!

04-15-2002, 02:48 AM	#1
NYJuggalo45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,045	NO Rookie of Year?!?!?1 Just got down playing 2004 with rolen's rosters and very strangely there was no NL Rookie of the Year. There was however an AL one, so I wanted to make sure there were some NL rookies who qualified, and there were quite of few position players with over 250 ab, and rookie pitchers with over 60 ip, so my question is why did this happen? Another add to the story, I just installed the new patch around playoff time, any possibility there is a bug in the new patch? __________________ This space for rent

04-15-2002, 02:54 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	I'm fairly certain that the players have to have more playing time than that to be considered(atleast within the game), but not sure of the exact requirements. If I were to guess it would be same requirements to win batting title or ERA crown. Would be nice to be able to adjust these however. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-15-2002, 03:51 AM	#4
bkurtz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 161	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong>The game seems to require (as Steve mentioned) that players eligible for the award be qualifiers for the Batting Average or ERA crowns.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">however, it doesn't work properly some times. I had a rookie who started 30 games, going 16-5, 3.46 era, and the game didn't award anybody as roy that year. he didn't show up in some of the stats leaders as rookie (era) but did at wins. it was his first season.

04-15-2002, 04:23 AM	#5
Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,348	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by bkurtz: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong>The game seems to require (as Steve mentioned) that players eligible for the award be qualifiers for the Batting Average or ERA crowns.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">however, it doesn't work properly some times. I had a rookie who started 30 games, going 16-5, 3.46 era, and the game didn't award anybody as roy that year. he didn't show up in some of the stats leaders as rookie (era) but did at wins. it was his first season.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The fact that his name didn't show up under the some of the rookie stats leaders indicates he probably didn't pitch enough innings to qualify for ROY, or the ERA title, etc. Even if he started 30 games, if he averaged 5 IP per start, he'd only finish with 150 IP and not qualify. I believe the qualifier is 162 IP (or 1 IP per game your team played).

04-15-2002, 06:44 AM	#7
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,202	If you used the schedule generator to set the number of games in your season you'll have no issues getting award winners. If not, you should still get some (but not all) of the award winners and some of the leaders. The quick way to check is to look at the magic numbers for the teams in your league (from the News section -> Standings report), if the magic numbers are based on a 40 game season you are alright, if they are based on 162, well then you might not get all the records etc. that you were expecting. You'll have to enter the average/percentage records manually and correct the problem by first backing up the schedule file (save with a different name), then deleting the schedule file, generating a 40 game schedule, then replacing it with your old schedule.dat file. Hope this helps <small>[ 04-15-2002, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: ScottVib ]</small>

04-15-2002, 03:27 AM	#3
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,202	You can award your own Rookie of the Year in these situations, just review the stats, make your choice and edit the league history file (and the player history if you so choose) to reflect your selection for rookie of the year. The game seems to require (as Steve mentioned) that players eligible for the award be qualifiers for the Batting Average or ERA crowns.

04-15-2002, 06:40 AM	#6
bigphesta Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,366	Is this pro-rated based on the # of games you use in your season? I'm doing a solo 'softball' play league where there's only 40 games, so will I get ANY awards?

04-15-2002, 07:06 AM	#8
bkurtz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 161	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Hammer755: The fact that his name didn't show up under the some of the rookie stats leaders indicates he probably didn't pitch enough innings to qualify for ROY, or the ERA title, etc. Even if he started 30 games, if he averaged 5 IP per start, he'd only finish with 150 IP and not qualify. I believe the qualifier is 162 IP (or 1 IP per game your team played).[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">actually, you're right hammer. he pitched 161.1 innings, so guess the game does work properly then.

04-15-2002, 07:22 AM	#9
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	Wow... if that were me, I'd be "P____ off" if I missed the award by 2 outs !! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

04-15-2002, 10:23 AM	#10
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	Sometimes the computer is really strapped for picks. One year, it gave the ROY to a pitcher who was something like 9-15 with an ERA near 5.00. I guess it was just a terrible rookie class. __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

04-15-2002, 10:54 AM	#11
Carplos Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,801 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Henry: <strong>Wow... if that were me, I'd be "P____ off" if I missed the award by 2 outs !! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Not sure if OOTP incorporates this, but in real MLB, if you'd still lead BA by adding the extra PA you need and no hits, you still get the title. Kinda hard to do something similar to ERA, so I don't think they do.

04-16-2002, 02:27 AM	#12
bigphesta Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,366	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong>If you used the schedule generator to set the number of games in your season you'll have no issues getting award winners. If not, you should still get some (but not all) of the award winners and some of the leaders. The quick way to check is to look at the magic numbers for the teams in your league (from the News section -> Standings report), if the magic numbers are based on a 40 game season you are alright, if they are based on 162, well then you might not get all the records etc. that you were expecting. You'll have to enter the average/percentage records manually and correct the problem by first backing up the schedule file (save with a different name), then deleting the schedule file, generating a 40 game schedule, then replacing it with your old schedule.dat file. Hope this helps</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thanks a TON Scott. This worked perfectly!