Epic Battle-NIce Feature

Backintheday · 03-03-2002, 05:30 AM

I had the colossal epic battle between Jeff Zimmerman and Nomar Garciaparra. Top of 9th, 2 men on in a 3-2 game and an 0-2 count on Nomar. He proceeds to foul of 7 straight balls including one that said "if it's fair, it's gone!". He then works the count to 3-2 and then proceeds to foul off 4 more balls.

Finally on the 17th pitch of the AB, he looks at one that was right down the pipe for the last out of the game!

Needless to say, the addition of the foul ball has generated the effect desired!

Markus Heinsohn · 03-03-2002, 05:31 AM

MizzouRah · 03-03-2002, 05:33 AM

I agree. I'm amazed at how much foul balls add to the immersion of the game.

Probably one of the top new features for me.

Todd

JML · 03-03-2002, 05:33 AM

YES!!! -pump fist-

This is exactly what I hoped could happen with the addition of foul balls. Drama all over the place.

Vsport · 03-03-2002, 05:56 AM

Sadly I disagree. I love the game but don't like this feature. I like the one pitch at bats, and feel the multiple foul balls really slows down the game. Again...just my feeling on the issue. I'd like to be able to disable this one.

Glen · 03-03-2002, 06:01 AM

I don't mind an extra click for realism.

The pitchers don't go as far into the game because of it. I think that's much better.

Just my opinion. We're all entitled to one.

Glen

JML · 03-03-2002, 06:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Glen:

The pitchers don't go as far into the game because of it. I think that's much better.

<hr></blockquote>

for me, this is huge. Hopefully fewer D and E endurance SP will be finishing games.

Edit- a possible option could be to toggle whether foul balls get their own pbp. Might be hard to do though.

[ March 03, 2002: Message edited by: JML ]

Granny Hamner · 03-03-2002, 07:08 AM

Another vote for the foul balls. The only complaint I had with OOTP3 was the PbP, which was not up to the level of some other text games. As I play almost every game and don't sim, this is more important to me than it may be to others.

Anyway, the foul balls in OOTP4 are an excellent addition. I think it was what I was missing from OOTP3. I also think I can live without a pitch-by-pitch version for while too.

CubsSox · 03-03-2002, 07:13 AM

I think the foul balls are great. I remember when I first got OOTP3, I was wondering why there weren't any foul balls. OOTP4 fixed and that then some! What a great game... oh and I was playing it all day yesterday, until 5 am. I just woke up and I'm going to play some more.

Peterk · 03-03-2002, 08:54 AM

Hi Markus,

I mentionned this in another thread as well, but this is a better place...

Foul balls are probably the best addition to the game in terms of making them more exciting. Very well implemented and I have also had my share of exciting matchups .

Now... (humble suggestion coming up) imagine the same thing but between runners on first base and pitchers trying to pick them off. I think this would add tons to the game.

uglyowl · 03-03-2002, 11:23 AM

Love the foul ball aspect! Haven't got to the off season, but in game that is the best addition. No longer are we limited to 6 pitch at bats.
One item that could be worked on next version... for example... 3-1 count. When the description is along the lines of "Did he hold up"... it is always yes and a walk since the play is a result. Same vice versa on an 0-2 count, always a strike out. I am only 10 games in so maybe I have missed something.
Overall great game Markus. Thank you!

Dargone · 03-03-2002, 11:55 AM

I Like the foul balls also

Yossarian · 03-03-2002, 12:05 PM

It is a great feature that adds some good suspense. Larry Walker just fouled off about 6 in a row, I was freaking out

DHS23 · 03-03-2002, 12:10 PM

Ya know....I hate foul balls for one reason. In a crucial situation, they hit some pop fouls that just magically seem to fall in the first few rows, then they get a key hit to start a rally.

Otherwise, nice addition.

SnowMan · 03-03-2002, 12:18 PM

Well, i've noticed that if someone fouls off the 3rd strike, they never walk. I'm talking from a very small sample set here, like 5 games, but I haven't seen it happen yet. I've seen hits and strikeouts and groundouts, etc, but no walks.

Khaos · 03-03-2002, 01:36 PM

I also enjoy the foul ball featurte.

MizzouRah · 03-03-2002, 02:17 PM

[quote]Well, i've noticed that if someone fouls off the 3rd strike, they never walk. I'm talking from a very small sample set here, like 5 games, but I haven't seen it happen yet. I've seen hits and strikeouts and groundouts, etc, but no walks. <hr></blockquote>

I'm seeing this as well, it's either a strikeout or a hit/out. Don't think I've seen a walk yet, but I will pay more attention to it.

Todd

Backintheday · 03-03-2002, 02:57 PM

I've seen walks..but I havent played with the new patch yet.

Carl Atkinson · 03-03-2002, 06:14 PM

[quote]Originally posted by SnowMan:
Well, i've noticed that if someone fouls off the 3rd strike, they never walk. I'm talking from a very small sample set here, like 5 games, but I haven't seen it happen yet. I've seen hits and strikeouts and groundouts, etc, but no walks.<hr></blockquote>

I just had a walk after a foul ball three times in the first three innings of one game. This is post patch, btw. Just so you know...

Carl

kingfc22 · 03-03-2002, 06:19 PM

I to am very please with the addition of foul balls. I have one player on my roster who seems to always get in those long at bats where he fouls of 3-5 pitches. Great addition to the OOTP series.

03-03-2002, 05:30 AM	#1
Backintheday Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 92	Epic Battle-NIce Feature I had the colossal epic battle between Jeff Zimmerman and Nomar Garciaparra. Top of 9th, 2 men on in a 3-2 game and an 0-2 count on Nomar. He proceeds to foul of 7 straight balls including one that said "if it's fair, it's gone!". He then works the count to 3-2 and then proceeds to foul off 4 more balls. Finally on the 17th pitch of the AB, he looks at one that was right down the pipe for the last out of the game! Needless to say, the addition of the foul ball has generated the effect desired! __________________ <a href="http://www.thexbl.com" target="_blank">XBL</a> Marlins <a href="http://www.geocities.com/cana321/baseball/bbdl.htm" target="_blank">BBDL</a> Rangers <a href="http://http://www.baseballmaelstrom.com/" target="_blank">Baseball Maelstrom</a> Rangers

03-03-2002, 05:31 AM	#2
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	__________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

03-03-2002, 06:01 AM	#6
Glen Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 153	I don't mind an extra click for realism. The pitchers don't go as far into the game because of it. I think that's much better. Just my opinion. We're all entitled to one. Glen __________________ Colorado Rockies - DBLC

03-03-2002, 06:26 AM	#7
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	[quote]Originally posted by Glen: <strong> The pitchers don't go as far into the game because of it. I think that's much better. </strong><hr></blockquote> for me, this is huge. Hopefully fewer D and E endurance SP will be finishing games. Edit- a possible option could be to toggle whether foul balls get their own pbp. Might be hard to do though. [ March 03, 2002: Message edited by: JML ]</p>

03-03-2002, 07:08 AM	#8
Granny Hamner Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 51	Another vote for the foul balls. The only complaint I had with OOTP3 was the PbP, which was not up to the level of some other text games. As I play almost every game and don't sim, this is more important to me than it may be to others. Anyway, the foul balls in OOTP4 are an excellent addition. I think it was what I was missing from OOTP3. I also think I can live without a pitch-by-pitch version for while too. __________________ "Q - What's it like being the smallest guy in the majors? A- It's a lot better than being the smallest guy in the minors." -- Billy Bates.

03-03-2002, 05:33 AM	#3
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	I agree. I'm amazed at how much foul balls add to the immersion of the game. Probably one of the top new features for me. Todd

03-03-2002, 05:56 AM	#5
Vsport Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 52	Sadly I disagree. I love the game but don't like this feature. I like the one pitch at bats, and feel the multiple foul balls really slows down the game. Again...just my feeling on the issue. I'd like to be able to disable this one.

03-03-2002, 07:13 AM	#9
CubsSox Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 206	I think the foul balls are great. I remember when I first got OOTP3, I was wondering why there weren't any foul balls. OOTP4 fixed and that then some! What a great game... oh and I was playing it all day yesterday, until 5 am. I just woke up and I'm going to play some more. __________________ It's me... Chae!

03-03-2002, 08:54 AM	#10
Peterk Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 220	Hi Markus, I mentionned this in another thread as well, but this is a better place... Foul balls are probably the best addition to the game in terms of making them more exciting. Very well implemented and I have also had my share of exciting matchups . Now... (humble suggestion coming up) imagine the same thing but between runners on first base and pitchers trying to pick them off. I think this would add tons to the game.

03-03-2002, 11:23 AM	#11
uglyowl Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass. Posts: 5	Love the foul ball aspect! Haven't got to the off season, but in game that is the best addition. No longer are we limited to 6 pitch at bats. One item that could be worked on next version... for example... 3-1 count. When the description is along the lines of "Did he hold up"... it is always yes and a walk since the play is a result. Same vice versa on an 0-2 count, always a strike out. I am only 10 games in so maybe I have missed something. Overall great game Markus. Thank you!

03-03-2002, 11:55 AM	#12
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	I Like the foul balls also __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

03-03-2002, 12:05 PM	#13
Yossarian Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 87	It is a great feature that adds some good suspense. Larry Walker just fouled off about 6 in a row, I was freaking out

03-03-2002, 12:10 PM	#14
DHS23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 506	Ya know....I hate foul balls for one reason. In a crucial situation, they hit some pop fouls that just magically seem to fall in the first few rows, then they get a key hit to start a rally. Otherwise, nice addition.

03-03-2002, 12:18 PM	#15
SnowMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 129	Well, i've noticed that if someone fouls off the 3rd strike, they never walk. I'm talking from a very small sample set here, like 5 games, but I haven't seen it happen yet. I've seen hits and strikeouts and groundouts, etc, but no walks.

03-03-2002, 01:36 PM	#16
Khaos Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canfield, OH Posts: 473	I also enjoy the foul ball featurte. __________________ squish

03-03-2002, 02:17 PM	#17
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	[quote]Well, i've noticed that if someone fouls off the 3rd strike, they never walk. I'm talking from a very small sample set here, like 5 games, but I haven't seen it happen yet. I've seen hits and strikeouts and groundouts, etc, but no walks. <hr></blockquote> I'm seeing this as well, it's either a strikeout or a hit/out. Don't think I've seen a walk yet, but I will pay more attention to it. Todd

03-03-2002, 02:57 PM	#18
Backintheday Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 92	I've seen walks..but I havent played with the new patch yet. __________________ <a href="http://www.thexbl.com" target="_blank">XBL</a> Marlins <a href="http://www.geocities.com/cana321/baseball/bbdl.htm" target="_blank">BBDL</a> Rangers <a href="http://http://www.baseballmaelstrom.com/" target="_blank">Baseball Maelstrom</a> Rangers

03-03-2002, 06:14 PM	#19
Carl Atkinson Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 7	[quote]Originally posted by SnowMan: <strong>Well, i've noticed that if someone fouls off the 3rd strike, they never walk. I'm talking from a very small sample set here, like 5 games, but I haven't seen it happen yet. I've seen hits and strikeouts and groundouts, etc, but no walks.</strong><hr></blockquote> I just had a walk after a foul ball three times in the first three innings of one game. This is post patch, btw. Just so you know... Carl

03-03-2002, 06:19 PM	#20
kingfc22 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 651	I to am very please with the addition of foul balls. I have one player on my roster who seems to always get in those long at bats where he fouls of 3-5 pitches. Great addition to the OOTP series. __________________ GO GIANTS GO NINERS GO LAKERS GO BLUE CUBL - Red Earth Firebirds 2000 CL Central Champs NABL - Washington Senators now Buffalo Bandits