Anybody ever wanted this???

baseball99 · 06-14-2002, 05:08 AM

I just thought about something that would be nice to have in OOTP5. I wish there were stats for a specific player against a specific pitcher. For example,

Bonds vs Randy Johnson. This would be neat for matchups. Also, mention the home/away stats in the pbp.

spleen1015 · 06-14-2002, 05:10 AM

Imagine the size of that database!

Malleus Dei · 06-14-2002, 05:23 AM

No. I never wanted that. Nor will I.

TheRockCT · 06-14-2002, 10:35 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by baseball99:
Also, mention the home/away stats in the pbp.<hr /></blockquote>As far as I know, this is included. If you're referring to when they announce a batter, for example Roberto Alomar, the PBP will occasionally read out something like:

Roberto Alomar steps up to the plate.
At home, he's hitting .289 with 2 HR's and 14 RBI's.

Draft Dodger · 06-15-2002, 06:11 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Malleus Dei:
No. I never wanted that. Nor will I.<hr /></blockquote>do you legitimately not want to see this, or are you just doing the cranky & witty routine?

Mrexbaseball · 06-15-2002, 03:45 PM

HAHA Imagine this PBP...you'd never finish the inning...

And up comes Carlos Pena. He is batting .345 against Helling with 34 hits, 3 HRs, 11 RBI, and one stolen base. Last time he faced Helling.....blah blah blah

LOL

BaseballMan · 06-15-2002, 06:59 PM

i agree.
Sometimes we get stat crazy.
Remeber the GWRBI.
I can see it noe the last time Maddux faced Bonds in the 6th ining of a road game on friday night in june with the temp 72 and the wind at 5 mph blowing to the south west and Bonds having 7 hours of sleep and 3 bowls of wheaties and Maddux having 2 bowls of cheerios etc etc Bonds is batting 3.45 against maddux

JML · 06-15-2002, 08:04 PM

Speaking of GWRBI...

I can see why the significance of this stat is a little foggy, but why was it essentially dismissed as a worthless stat? What were the reasons it became so discredited? I wasn't really into stats when GWRBI was en vogue, so I'm curious what the main arguments for/against it are/were.

[ 06-16-2002, 01:05 AM: Message edited by: JML ]

GM · 06-16-2002, 02:57 PM

Posted by: baseball99

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> I just thought about something that would be nice to have in OOTP5. I wish there were stats for a specific player against a specific pitcher. For example, Bonds vs Randy Johnson. This would be neat for matchups. Also, mention the home/away stats in the pbp. <hr /></blockquote>I would love this feature. As far as I know only one other baseball game supplies this and it's an add-on. Check this link & then click Batter/Matchups.

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Slope/5309/index.html" target="_blank">Matchups</a>

Scott Vibert · 06-17-2002, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JML
Speaking of GWRBI...

I can see why the significance of this stat is a little foggy, but why was it essentially dismissed as a worthless stat? What were the reasons it became so discredited? I wasn't really into stats when GWRBI was en vogue, so I'm curious what the main arguments for/against it are/were.

I believe the main argument against it was that It went to the person who drove in the "winning run regardless" of the score.

I.E. That meaningless single to score a run to make it 6-0, could somehow become the game winning RBI if the final score was 15-5.

If I remember correctly GWRBIs were supposed to help measure just how "clutch" someone was and when the majority of the league leaders GWRBI's were in blow outs or 3 or 4 run games... just how clutch is that?

At least these were my arguments for never paying attention to it.

jimbolewis8 · 06-17-2002, 03:04 PM

how about "career numbers vs. team" for an individual player?

In nearly every ballgame on tv or in media guides, you'll find these stats. is it somewhere to be found? if not, I would like to see it.

Brewer Fan · 06-17-2002, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ScottVib

I believe the main argument against it was that It went to the person who drove in the "winning run regardless" of the score.

I.E. That meaningless single to score a run to make it 6-0, could somehow become the game winning RBI if the final score was 15-5.

If I remember correctly GWRBIs were supposed to help measure just how "clutch" someone was and when the majority of the league leaders GWRBI's were in blow outs or 3 or 4 run games... just how clutch is that?

At least these were my arguments for never paying attention to it.

The reason the GWRBI was discredited was that it went to the player who gave his team the lead for the last time. So, if a guy lead off the first with a home run, and his team never lost the lead, he got the GWRBI, even if it ended up 12-6. GWRBI was developed to show how "clutch" a guy was, but the majority of GWRBI came before the 7th inning. Therefore the stat was not really indicative of what it implied, i.e. that this guy had the big hit that won the game. If the stat were reconstituted- similar to a save- such as GWRBI which gives your team the lead in the 8th inning or later- it would be a much better indicator of a player's "clutch" ability.

06-14-2002, 05:08 AM	#1
baseball99 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 58	Anybody ever wanted this??? I just thought about something that would be nice to have in OOTP5. I wish there were stats for a specific player against a specific pitcher. For example, Bonds vs Randy Johnson. This would be neat for matchups. Also, mention the home/away stats in the pbp.

06-14-2002, 10:35 AM	#4
TheRockCT All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TN Posts: 1,083	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by baseball99: <strong>Also, mention the home/away stats in the pbp.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">As far as I know, this is included. If you're referring to when they announce a batter, for example Roberto Alomar, the PBP will occasionally read out something like: Roberto Alomar steps up to the plate. At home, he's hitting .289 with 2 HR's and 14 RBI's. __________________ GM, Vermont Emperor Penguins - POTD POTD Champions: 2011, 2012, 2013 GM, Monterrey Aztecs* - NABA *NABA Champions: 2013

06-15-2002, 06:11 AM	#5
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Malleus Dei: <strong>No. I never wanted that. Nor will I.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">do you legitimately not want to see this, or are you just doing the cranky & witty routine? __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

06-15-2002, 08:04 PM	#8
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	Speaking of GWRBI... I can see why the significance of this stat is a little foggy, but why was it essentially dismissed as a worthless stat? What were the reasons it became so discredited? I wasn't really into stats when GWRBI was en vogue, so I'm curious what the main arguments for/against it are/were. <small>[ 06-16-2002, 01:05 AM: Message edited by: JML ]</small>

06-16-2002, 02:57 PM	#9
GM Bat Boy Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4	Posted by: baseball99 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I just thought about something that would be nice to have in OOTP5. I wish there were stats for a specific player against a specific pitcher. For example, Bonds vs Randy Johnson. This would be neat for matchups. Also, mention the home/away stats in the pbp. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I would love this feature. As far as I know only one other baseball game supplies this and it's an add-on. Check this link & then click Batter/Matchups. <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Slope/5309/index.html" target="_blank">Matchups</a>

06-14-2002, 05:10 AM	#2
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,000	Imagine the size of that database!

06-15-2002, 03:45 PM	#6
Mrexbaseball Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 471 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	HAHA Imagine this PBP...you'd never finish the inning... And up comes Carlos Pena. He is batting .345 against Helling with 34 hits, 3 HRs, 11 RBI, and one stolen base. Last time he faced Helling.....blah blah blah LOL

06-15-2002, 06:59 PM	#7
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,518	i agree. Sometimes we get stat crazy. Remeber the GWRBI. I can see it noe the last time Maddux faced Bonds in the 6th ining of a road game on friday night in june with the temp 72 and the wind at 5 mph blowing to the south west and Bonds having 7 hours of sleep and 3 bowls of wheaties and Maddux having 2 bowls of cheerios etc etc Bonds is batting 3.45 against maddux

06-17-2002, 03:04 PM	#11
jimbolewis8 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, Florida Posts: 132	how about "career numbers vs. team" for an individual player? In nearly every ballgame on tv or in media guides, you'll find these stats. is it somewhere to be found? if not, I would like to see it.