Best Offensive Players Ever In This Game?

thomamon · 01-05-2004, 06:24 PM

I was just checking out my league's other players and there was someone I kept noticing and I checked out his stats. He's one of the best player's I've seen in this game, his stats are amazing. His salary is over 19Million! He's unbelieveable, check out these career stats below. Have you ever seen anyone like this?
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<tr><td>Year</td><td>G</td><td>AB</td><td>H</td><td>2B</td><td>3B</td><td>HR</td><td>RBI</td><td>R</td><td>BB</td><td>K</td><td>SB</td><td>CS</td><td>AVG</td><td>OBP</td><td>SLG</td><td>OPS</td><td class=s3>Teams</td></tr>
<tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>1993</td><td>120</td><td>407</td><td>120</td><td>24</td><td>4</td><td>22</td><td>68</td><td>98</td><td>100</td><td>52</td><td>16</td><td>13</td><td>.295</td><td>.434</td><td>.536</td><td>.970</td><td class=s3_2> DET</td></tr>
<tr class=g><td class=s1>1994</td><td>129</td><td>437</td><td>159</td><td>21</td><td>8</td><td>17</td><td>80</td><td>121</td><td>95</td><td>61</td><td>20</td><td>14</td><td>.364</td><td>.477</td><td>.565</td><td>1.043</td><td class=s3>DET</td></tr>
<tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>1995</td><td>158</td><td>563</td><td>199</td><td>39</td><td>9</td><td>27</td><td>108</td><td>144</td><td>132</td><td>115</td><td>26</td><td>18</td><td>.353</td><td>.476</td><td>.599</td><td>1.075</td><td class=s3_2>DET,L1</td></tr>
<tr class=g><td class=s1>1996</td><td>144</td><td>500</td><td>192</td><td>41</td><td>9</td><td>48</td><td>131</td><td>137</td><td>121</td><td>91</td><td>16</td><td>15</td><td>.384</td><td>.504</td><td>.790</td><td>1.294</td><td class=s3> COL,L2</td></tr>
<tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>1997</td><td>154</td><td>553</td><td>226</td><td>30</td><td>18</td><td>60</td><td>152</td><td>166</td><td>153</td><td>93</td><td>24</td><td>17</td><td>.409</td><td>.537</td><td>.854</td><td>1.390</td><td class=s3_2>COL,L2</td></tr>
<tr class=g><td class=s1>1998</td><td>133</td><td>477</td><td>193</td><td>45</td><td>10</td><td>34</td><td>125</td><td>141</td><td>108</td><td>74</td><td>14</td><td>16</td><td>.405</td><td>.515</td><td>.755</td><td>1.269</td><td class=s3>COL,L2</td></tr>
<tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>1999</td><td>159</td><td>574</td><td>212</td><td>48</td><td>9</td><td>42</td><td>137</td><td>184</td><td>120</td><td>112</td><td>26</td><td>13</td><td>.369</td><td>.478</td><td>.704</td><td>1.182</td><td class=s3_2>COL,L2</td></tr>
<tr class=g><td class=s1>2000</td><td>139</td><td>495</td><td>168</td><td>40</td><td>6</td><td>44</td><td>144</td><td>138</td><td>102</td><td>111</td><td>16</td><td>12</td><td>.339</td><td>.455</td><td>.711</td><td>1.166</td><td class=s3>COL,NL</td></tr>
<tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>Total</td><td>1136</td><td>4006</td><td>1469</td><td>288</td><td>73</td><td>294</td><td>945</td><td>1129</td><td>931</td><td>709</td><td>158</td><td>118</td><td>.367</td><td>.486</td><td>.695</td><td>1.181</td><td class=s3_2>&#160</td></tr>
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skkrrt · 01-05-2004, 06:32 PM

He played in coors helps a lot....though 1997 is very impresive still.

TotalEnd98 · 01-05-2004, 08:45 PM

Is it sad that my second reaction to those stats (after scanning the OPS column) was "Damn, his 'stealing' slider needs to be turned way down"?

And yes, even for Coors, 1997 is a legendary season. Though I would wonder why you haven't noticed this guy before now. You'd think a .409/60 year would garner a little attention.

Carlton · 01-05-2004, 08:58 PM

Code:

                 G   AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS XR OWS 
14 Years Sim 1900 7524 1303 2672 640 111 114 1136 525 140 430 623 .355 .401 .515 .916 1401.1 384.9 
162 Avg       641 111 227 54 9 9 96 44 11 36 53 .355 .401 .515 .916 119.5   
Career Highs  149 605 123 235 63 14 17 105 59 17 42 75 .411 .455 .626 1.081 136.3

I'll take this man anyday, and he did this in a very bad hitter's park

EDIT-I suck at code...but he also had 5 MVP awards 6 Gold Gloves

Had a record 63 doubles 2x
batted .400 3 times
Had an OPS over .950 6 times

3 guesses who this man is

danwaechter · 01-05-2004, 09:23 PM

Just a question about unbelievable seasons. I've noticed that ootp doesn't take league average ratings into account in the minors, as my league uses extremely high ratings compared to most, and some of the guys in the minors who will never see a big league game hit around .400 regularily, and ont guy once hit almost .500. Anyone ever try playing a guy with 10 ratings across the board in A-ball for an entire season and see if he could bat .600 with an OPS over 1.500 lol?

Deft · 01-05-2004, 11:45 PM

OK, have to chime in on this one.

This is a modern era league and the player in question plays in the Vet, which is a pretty neutral park. The Vet since has been renamed Gross Field.

Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams
2001 162 619 215 25 3 50 136 152 129 123 41 5 .347 .460 .640 1.100 LOU,FL
2002 162 623 249 29 4 44 135 143 125 134 34 6 .400 .500 .671 1.171 LOU,FL
2003 162 616 227 35 1 37 113 139 104 103 41 7 .369 .460 .609 1.068 LOU,FL
2004 160 568 227 22 2 36 114 165 142 116 62 10 .400 .520 .636 1.155 LOU,FL
2005 154 579 219 28 6 52 143 151 109 104 33 13 .378 .477 .717 1.193 LOU,FL
2006 153 573 215 25 6 28 121 135 106 120 59 6 .375 .471 .586 1.057 LOU,FL
Total 953 3578 1352 164 22 247 762 885 715 700 270 47 .378 .481 .643 1.125

Couple things to note: His lifetime average is better than any other players best season. He won the triple crown in 2006 and has led his team to 5 straight division titles and 6 straight MVPs. I think what separates him is his SB and SB%!

He can be found playing in his prime in the ATHL
Darrin Gross

BarryUSBonds · 01-06-2004, 05:00 AM

WOW!!!

BaseballMan · 01-06-2004, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlton

Code:

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS XR OWS 14 Years Sim 1900 7524 1303 2672 640 111 114 1136 525 140 430 623 .355 .401 .515 .916 1401.1 384.9 162 Avg 641 111 227 54 9 9 96 44 11 36 53 .355 .401 .515 .916 119.5 Career Highs 149 605 123 235 63 14 17 105 59 17 42 75 .411 .455 .626 1.081 136.3

I'll take this man anyday, and he did this in a very bad hitter's park

EDIT-I suck at code...but he also had 5 MVP awards 6 Gold Gloves

Had a record 63 doubles 2x
batted .400 3 times
Had an OPS over .950 6 times

3 guesses who this man is

babe ruth
willie mays
ted williams

Carlton · 01-06-2004, 11:27 AM

Nope think earlier BaseballMan, one of the best players that NEVER get recognition, and is often passed over by two well known contempories

BaseballMan · 01-06-2004, 06:51 PM

well i know i had my 3 guesses but since nobody else is guessing.
Whn you said bad hitters park do you mean they played in the same park as real life?

My next guesses are
Mel Ott
Lou Gehrig
Chuck Klein

DWoofer · 01-06-2004, 11:21 PM

My guess: Shoeless Joe?

Carlton · 01-06-2004, 11:27 PM

Yes, BBman

close Dwoofer...I can't give any hints or it would be too easy, but his decline came at Jackson's beginning

Eckstein 4 Prez · 01-07-2004, 03:01 AM

My guesses:

Ed Delahanty
Sam Crawford

Crapshoot · 01-07-2004, 05:19 AM

Jimmy Fox
Roger Breshnehan
Nap Lajoie
Crawford makes my list as well

Carlton · 01-07-2004, 08:51 AM

There ya go...Aadik wins the rubber tortilla!

Nap Lajoie people!!!

One of the greatest ever to grace the game, but for some reason gets overshadowed by Honus Wagner

ctorg · 01-07-2004, 10:38 AM

Nap Lajoie has been one of my favorite players ever since I had him on my Earl Weaver team. I even have a picture of myself, at age 14 or so, standing next to his plaque at the HOF.

ctorg · 01-07-2004, 10:39 AM

The thing about comparing offensive seasons is that so much is dependent upon the league totals settings. It's really not useful to compare, because if you set the league settings right, you could have a .500 league average and the average player could hit 70 homers.

Carlton · 01-07-2004, 10:59 AM

Well with Nap here, totals were more or less 5% within realistic averages

He is th eonly man to sniff .400...and he did so 4 times
plus he was top 3 in HRs for most of his career, AND he hit 60 + doubles Speaker has gotten close at 54....and that's it

ctorg · 01-07-2004, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlton
Well with Nap here, totals were more or less 5% within realistic averages

He is th eonly man to sniff .400...and he did so 4 times
plus he was top 3 in HRs for most of his career, AND he hit 60 + doubles Speaker has gotten close at 54....and that's it

Well, Lajoie really was a head above everyone else at the time.

obaslg · 01-07-2004, 02:51 PM

Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams
1996 9 27 5 0 0 1 1 2 0 3 0 0 .185 .185 .296 .481 MON
1997 90 325 98 22 2 11 40 44 19 39 3 4 .302 .340 .483 .823 MON
1998 159 623 202 37 7 38 109 108 42 95 11 9 .324 .367 .589 .956 MON
1999 160 610 193 37 5 42 131 102 55 62 14 7 .316 .373 .600 .973 MON
2000 154 571 197 28 11 44 123 101 58 74 9 10 .345 .405 .664 1.069 MON
2001 162 676 223 26 11 61 171 140 54 88 8 8 .330 .379 .672 1.051 MON,NL SEA
2002 161 694 220 28 9 61 182 140 42 104 4 7 .317 .356 .647 1.003 SEA,AL
2003 158 654 227 26 15 44 170 132 46 57 2 2 .347 .390 .635 1.025 SEA,AL
2004 159 687 276 38 17 53 201 173 55 62 2 0 .402 .446 .738 1.184 SEA,AL
2005 162 664 214 21 16 58 142 146 70 67 1 2 .322 .387 .664 1.051 SEA LV,AL
2006 160 626 220 26 19 61 178 165 77 68 3 0 .351 .422 .746 1.168 LV,AL
2007 154 657 234 29 1 59 172 152 51 48 2 0 .356 .403 .673 1.075 LV,AL
2008 155 658 236 37 4 69 183 167 39 56 0 0 .359 .395 .742 1.136 LV,AL
2009 102 439 155 17 0 38 115 103 38 37 1 0 .353 .408 .651 1.059 LV,AL
Total 1945 7911 2700 372 117 640 1918 1675 646 860 60 49 .341 .391 .661 1.052

Bad Vlad. The league started in 2001. He's always played in slightly pitchers' parks. Three of those years were triple crowns, and one of them quadruple (runs). He's also won 6 MVPs in the 8 years of the league, and would have won in 2001, but switched leagues mid-season.

01-05-2004, 06:32 PM	#2
skkrrt Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 410	He played in coors helps a lot....though 1997 is very impresive still. __________________ Tiger of the Week: Nate Robertson-3rd in the AL in strikeouts (24).

01-05-2004, 08:45 PM	#3
TotalEnd98 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,687	Is it sad that my second reaction to those stats (after scanning the OPS column) was "Damn, his 'stealing' slider needs to be turned way down"? And yes, even for Coors, 1997 is a legendary season. Though I would wonder why you haven't noticed this guy before now. You'd think a .409/60 year would garner a little attention. __________________ OTBL - Scandinavia Cartoon Heroes This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.

01-05-2004, 08:58 PM	#4
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Code: G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS XR OWS 14 Years Sim 1900 7524 1303 2672 640 111 114 1136 525 140 430 623 .355 .401 .515 .916 1401.1 384.9 162 Avg 641 111 227 54 9 9 96 44 11 36 53 .355 .401 .515 .916 119.5 Career Highs 149 605 123 235 63 14 17 105 59 17 42 75 .411 .455 .626 1.081 136.3 I'll take this man anyday, and he did this in a very bad hitter's park EDIT-I suck at code...but he also had 5 MVP awards 6 Gold Gloves Had a record 63 doubles 2x batted .400 3 times Had an OPS over .950 6 times 3 guesses who this man is __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!" Last edited by Carlton; 01-05-2004 at 09:04 PM.

01-05-2004, 11:45 PM	#6
Deft All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,109	Darrin "The" Gross OK, have to chime in on this one. This is a modern era league and the player in question plays in the Vet, which is a pretty neutral park. The Vet since has been renamed Gross Field. Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams 2001 162 619 215 25 3 50 136 152 129 123 41 5 .347 .460 .640 1.100 LOU,FL 2002 162 623 249 29 4 44 135 143 125 134 34 6 .400 .500 .671 1.171 LOU,FL 2003 162 616 227 35 1 37 113 139 104 103 41 7 .369 .460 .609 1.068 LOU,FL 2004 160 568 227 22 2 36 114 165 142 116 62 10 .400 .520 .636 1.155 LOU,FL 2005 154 579 219 28 6 52 143 151 109 104 33 13 .378 .477 .717 1.193 LOU,FL 2006 153 573 215 25 6 28 121 135 106 120 59 6 .375 .471 .586 1.057 LOU,FL Total 953 3578 1352 164 22 247 762 885 715 700 270 47 .378 .481 .643 1.125 Couple things to note: His lifetime average is better than any other players best season. He won the triple crown in 2006 and has led his team to 5 straight division titles and 6 straight MVPs. I think what separates him is his SB and SB%! He can be found playing in his prime in the ATHL Darrin Gross __________________ ATHL Louisville Jockeys (2001-present) 2002, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2020 World Champions Uniform Template 1.2 Last edited by Deft; 01-05-2004 at 11:50 PM.

01-06-2004, 11:27 AM	#9
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Nope think earlier BaseballMan, one of the best players that NEVER get recognition, and is often passed over by two well known contempories __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

01-05-2004, 06:24 PM	#1
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,274	Best Offensive Players Ever In This Game? I was just checking out my league's other players and there was someone I kept noticing and I checked out his stats. He's one of the best player's I've seen in this game, his stats are amazing. His salary is over 19Million! He's unbelieveable, check out these career stats below. Have you ever seen anyone like this? <table> <tr><td><b>Year</b></td><td><b>G</b></td><td><b>AB</b></td><td><b>H</b></td><td><b>2B</b></td><td><b>3B</b></td><td><b>HR</b></td><td><b>RBI</b></td><td><b>R</b></td><td><b>BB</b></td><td><b>K</b></td><td><b>SB</b></td><td><b>CS</b></td><td><b>AVG</b></td><td><b>OBP</b></td><td><b>SLG</b></td><td><b>OPS</b></td><td class=s3><b>Teams</b></td></tr> <tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>1993</td><td>120</td><td>407</td><td>120</td><td>24</td><td>4</td><td>22</td><td>68</td><td>98</td><td>100</td><td>52</td><td>16</td><td>13</td><td>.295</td><td>.434</td><td>.536</td><td>.970</td><td class=s3_2> DET</td></tr> <tr class=g><td class=s1>1994</td><td>129</td><td>437</td><td>159</td><td>21</td><td>8</td><td>17</td><td>80</td><td>121</td><td>95</td><td>61</td><td>20</td><td>14</td><td>.364</td><td>.477</td><td>.565</td><td>1.043</td><td class=s3>DET</td></tr> <tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>1995</td><td>158</td><td>563</td><td>199</td><td>39</td><td>9</td><td>27</td><td>108</td><td>144</td><td>132</td><td>115</td><td>26</td><td>18</td><td>.353</td><td>.476</td><td>.599</td><td>1.075</td><td class=s3_2>DET,L1</td></tr> <tr class=g><td class=s1>1996</td><td>144</td><td>500</td><td>192</td><td>41</td><td>9</td><td>48</td><td>131</td><td>137</td><td>121</td><td>91</td><td>16</td><td>15</td><td>.384</td><td>.504</td><td>.790</td><td>1.294</td><td class=s3> COL,L2</td></tr> <tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>1997</td><td>154</td><td>553</td><td>226</td><td>30</td><td>18</td><td>60</td><td>152</td><td>166</td><td>153</td><td>93</td><td>24</td><td>17</td><td>.409</td><td>.537</td><td>.854</td><td>1.390</td><td class=s3_2>COL,L2</td></tr> <tr class=g><td class=s1>1998</td><td>133</td><td>477</td><td>193</td><td>45</td><td>10</td><td>34</td><td>125</td><td>141</td><td>108</td><td>74</td><td>14</td><td>16</td><td>.405</td><td>.515</td><td>.755</td><td>1.269</td><td class=s3>COL,L2</td></tr> <tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>1999</td><td>159</td><td>574</td><td>212</td><td>48</td><td>9</td><td>42</td><td>137</td><td>184</td><td>120</td><td>112</td><td>26</td><td>13</td><td>.369</td><td>.478</td><td>.704</td><td>1.182</td><td class=s3_2>COL,L2</td></tr> <tr class=g><td class=s1>2000</td><td>139</td><td>495</td><td>168</td><td>40</td><td>6</td><td>44</td><td>144</td><td>138</td><td>102</td><td>111</td><td>16</td><td>12</td><td>.339</td><td>.455</td><td>.711</td><td>1.166</td><td class=s3>COL,NL</td></tr> <tr class=g2><td class=s1_2>Total</td><td>1136</td><td>4006</td><td>1469</td><td>288</td><td>73</td><td>294</td><td>945</td><td>1129</td><td>931</td><td>709</td><td>158</td><td>118</td><td>.367</td><td>.486</td><td>.695</td><td>1.181</td><td class=s3_2>&#160</td></tr> </table>

01-05-2004, 09:23 PM	#5
danwaechter Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 67	Just a question about unbelievable seasons. I've noticed that ootp doesn't take league average ratings into account in the minors, as my league uses extremely high ratings compared to most, and some of the guys in the minors who will never see a big league game hit around .400 regularily, and ont guy once hit almost .500. Anyone ever try playing a guy with 10 ratings across the board in A-ball for an entire season and see if he could bat .600 with an OPS over 1.500 lol?

01-06-2004, 05:00 AM	#7
BarryUSBonds Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: McCovey Cove:) Posts: 203	WOW!!!

01-06-2004, 06:51 PM	#10
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,479	well i know i had my 3 guesses but since nobody else is guessing. Whn you said bad hitters park do you mean they played in the same park as real life? My next guesses are Mel Ott Lou Gehrig Chuck Klein

01-06-2004, 11:21 PM	#11
DWoofer Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 18	My guess: Shoeless Joe?

01-06-2004, 11:27 PM	#12
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Yes, BBman close Dwoofer...I can't give any hints or it would be too easy, but his decline came at Jackson's beginning __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

01-07-2004, 03:01 AM	#13
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	My guesses: Ed Delahanty Sam Crawford __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

01-07-2004, 05:19 AM	#14
Crapshoot Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: watching: DArwin's missing link in action Posts: 3,112	Jimmy Fox Roger Breshnehan Nap Lajoie Crawford makes my list as well __________________ Senior Senor Member of the OOTP Boards Pittsburgh Playmates- OTBL

01-07-2004, 08:51 AM	#15
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	There ya go...Aadik wins the rubber tortilla! Nap Lajoie people!!! One of the greatest ever to grace the game, but for some reason gets overshadowed by Honus Wagner __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

01-07-2004, 10:38 AM	#16
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	Nap Lajoie has been one of my favorite players ever since I had him on my Earl Weaver team. I even have a picture of myself, at age 14 or so, standing next to his plaque at the HOF. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

01-07-2004, 10:39 AM	#17
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	The thing about comparing offensive seasons is that so much is dependent upon the league totals settings. It's really not useful to compare, because if you set the league settings right, you could have a .500 league average and the average player could hit 70 homers. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

01-07-2004, 10:59 AM	#18
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Well with Nap here, totals were more or less 5% within realistic averages He is th eonly man to sniff .400...and he did so 4 times plus he was top 3 in HRs for most of his career, AND he hit 60 + doubles Speaker has gotten close at 54....and that's it __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

01-07-2004, 02:51 PM	#20
obaslg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 887	Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams 1996 9 27 5 0 0 1 1 2 0 3 0 0 .185 .185 .296 .481 MON 1997 90 325 98 22 2 11 40 44 19 39 3 4 .302 .340 .483 .823 MON 1998 159 623 202 37 7 38 109 108 42 95 11 9 .324 .367 .589 .956 MON 1999 160 610 193 37 5 42 131 102 55 62 14 7 .316 .373 .600 .973 MON 2000 154 571 197 28 11 44 123 101 58 74 9 10 .345 .405 .664 1.069 MON 2001 162 676 223 26 11 61 171 140 54 88 8 8 .330 .379 .672 1.051 MON,NL SEA 2002 161 694 220 28 9 61 182 140 42 104 4 7 .317 .356 .647 1.003 SEA,AL 2003 158 654 227 26 15 44 170 132 46 57 2 2 .347 .390 .635 1.025 SEA,AL 2004 159 687 276 38 17 53 201 173 55 62 2 0 .402 .446 .738 1.184 SEA,AL 2005 162 664 214 21 16 58 142 146 70 67 1 2 .322 .387 .664 1.051 SEA LV,AL 2006 160 626 220 26 19 61 178 165 77 68 3 0 .351 .422 .746 1.168 LV,AL 2007 154 657 234 29 1 59 172 152 51 48 2 0 .356 .403 .673 1.075 LV,AL 2008 155 658 236 37 4 69 183 167 39 56 0 0 .359 .395 .742 1.136 LV,AL 2009 102 439 155 17 0 38 115 103 38 37 1 0 .353 .408 .651 1.059 LV,AL Total 1945 7911 2700 372 117 640 1918 1675 646 860 60 49 .341 .391 .661 1.052 Bad Vlad. The league started in 2001. He's always played in slightly pitchers' parks. Three of those years were triple crowns, and one of them quadruple (runs). He's also won 6 MVPs in the 8 years of the league, and would have won in 2001, but switched leagues mid-season. __________________ Realy good musition of many insterments, including the hyperbolic vitriol.