Requested Updates and Corrections to Players for Rolen's Roster File

[fluharty]

10+20+14=50? ack, make that 26 starts at 1B. anyway, I can post hist full fielding/hitting stats but they dont format right here so I figure you can get them on line. I will post them if you want tho- he definately needs to be added. He'll be getting 300-400 at bats this year, spellin Kevin Young at first as well as catching and playing in right field.

[CBL-Commish]

[quote]Originally posted by LilRedMachine:
<strong>BTW, Rolen or any other subscribers, how much is a subscription to BBAmerica? I used to go to the site all the time before it switched to a pay site, but didn't have the funds to sign up.</strong><hr></blockquote>


It's something like $47 a year, maybe a few dollars less if you sign up for more than one year.

[LedgerSko]

Here is something else we may want to be aware of. Some ages are wrong.

Player, Organization
Reported Birthdate
Correct Birthdate
Correct Age
Change

Marcus Agramonte, 2b*
12-29-80
–
25
6 yrs

Manny Aybar, rhp, SF
10-5-74
5-4-72
29
2.5 yrs

Omar Beltre, rhp, Tex
8-24-82
–
21
2 yrs

Jose Cabrera, rhp, Atl
3-24-72
–
32
3 yrs

Wilmy Caceres, ss, TB
10-2-78
–
28
5 yrs

Armando Camacaro, c, Cle
10-5-80
4-6-80
21
6 mos

Bernie Castro, 2b, SD
7-14-81
7-14-79
22
2 yrs

Jesus Colome, rhp, TB
6-2-80
–
24
3 yrs

Bartolo Colon, rhp, Cle
5-24-75
5-24-73
28
2 yrs

Jose Colon, rhp, Cle
7-24-77
11-24-74
27
3.5 yrs

Deivi Cruz, ss, SD
11-6-75
11-6-72
29
3 yrs

Juan Cruz, rhp, ChC
10-15-80
10-15-78
23
2 yrs

Felix Diaz, rhp, SF
7-27-81
7-27-80
21
1 yr

Octavio Dotel, rhp, Hou
11-25-75
11-25-73
28
2 yrs

Angelo Encarnacion, c, LA
4-18-73
–
33
4 yrs

Mario Encarnacion, of, Col
9-24-77
9-24-75
26
2 yrs

Miguel Felix, rhp, Bal
12-30-76
–
26
2 yrs

Daniel Figueroa, 1b/of, Bos
1-7-82
1-7-79
23
3 yrs

Juan Figueroa, rhp, Bal
6-24-79
–
23
2 yrs

Ruben Francisco, of, Bal
5-13-81
–
23
3.5 yrs

Rafael Furcal, ss, Atl
8-24-80
8-24-78
23
2 yrs

Rich Gomez, of, Det
10-19-77
7-10-76
25
1 yr

Elpidio Guzman, of, Ana
2-24-79
2-24-77
25
2 yrs

Wilson Guzman, lhp, Pit
7-14-77
–
28
4 yrs

Felix Heredia, rhp, Tor
6-18-76
6-18-75
26
1 yr

Hector Luna, ss, Cle
2-1-82
2-1-80
21
2 yrs


Juan Melo, ss, SF
5-11-76
11-11-76
25
-6 mos

Geronimo Mendoza, rhp, ChW
6-23-78
–
26
2 yrs

Rey Ordonez, ss, NYM
11-11-72
1-11-71
31
2 yrs

Ramon Ortiz, rhp, Ana
3-23-76
3-23-73
28
3 yrs

Antonio Perez, ss, Sea
7-26-81
7-26-80
21
1 yr

Neifi Perez, ss, KC
6-2-75
6-2-73
28
2 yrs

Odalis Perez, lhp, LA
6-6-78
6-11-78
23
-5 days

Timo Perez, of, NYM
4-8-77
4-8-75
26
2 yrs

Henry Pichardo, 2b, Cle
1-15-79
1-15-77
24
2 yrs

Luis Pineda, rhp, Cin
6-10-78
10-17-74
27
4.5 yrs

Joslin Ramirez, rhp, Ari
11-19-80
11-19-78
23
2 yrs

Nerio Rodriguez, rhp, Cle
3-22-73
3-4-71
30
2 yrs

Ed Rogers, ss, Bal
8-10-81
–
23
3 yrs

Omar Rogers, 2b, Bal
8-12-82
–
22
3 yrs

Rodrigo Rosario, rhp, Hou
12-14-79
12-14-77
24
2 yrs

Wilkin Ruan, of, Mon
11-18-79
11-18-78
23
1 yr

Ramon Soler, 2b, TB
7-6-81
–
24
4 yrs

Luis Taveras, c, Atl
8-1-77
–
26
2 yrs

Juan Uribe, ss, Col
7-22-80
7-22-79
22
1 yr

Martin Vargas, rhp, Cle
2-22-78
2-22-77
25
1 yr

Luis Vizcaino, rhp, Oak
6-1-77
6-1-75
26
2 yrs

Enrique Wilson, inf, NYY
7-27-75
7-27-73
28
2 yrs

Esteban Yan, rhp, TB
6-22-74
–
26
-1 yr


*Agramonte was released by Texas after his true age was discovered.

[blynch10]

The way I look at it, Rolen has done the hardest part by getting all of the players into the game. All I'm doing now is taking the players last three years(or what is available) and putting them through formulas to adjust to 550 ab.
Only exceptions are injury plagued season or colorado effect on hampton, where I take just two years. This way I get a better showing of skill instead of career years or bust years.

[Erich Ingram]

[quote]Originally posted by fluharty:
[QB]
Thats all I can remember of the top of my head, other than adding Craig Wilson, who you left out completely. He played in 88 games for the bucs with 50 of them starts: 10 at catcher, 20 at 1B, 14 in RF. Batted .310/158AB/13HR. More details on the pirates site.

Alos,
Ryan Voglesong should be put on the DL for 20 weeks (september return- he's recovering from TJ surgery), Kris Benson should be on the DL with a return in 6 weeks (TJ also). Manzanillo needs to be moved from an FA to the pirates- we resigned him.

QB]<hr></blockquote>


I did not injure any of hte players in the league that were injured. that was something that I was going to poll the audience for before I did the Opening Day set.

Wilson is on the Tigers, I mixed him up with the Craig Wilson on the Tigers. I guess there are two of them.

[Erich Ingram]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sko_dog:
[QB]Here is something else we may want to be aware of. Some ages are wrong.

Player, Organization
Reported Birthdate
Correct Birthdate
Correct Age
Change

Yes I know there are many players that are becoming older. I had changed most of the ones that had come up prior to the game being released and as I said before I have access to Baseball America who has been updating the list and I will make sure that I can fix them when before I release a new file.

[fluharty]

hmm... ours is primarily a catcher. I would say a range D at 1B, E-D in RF, C at Catcher. Difficult to judje with only 158 AB, but he looks promising.

CAREER TRANSACTIONS: Selected by Toronto in 1995 June free agent draft (2nd round)... Acquired by Pittsburgh from Toronto on 12/11/96, along with pitcher Mike Halperin and infielder Abraham Nunez, as the players to be named later in deal from 11/14/96 in which Pirates acquired pitchers Jose Pett and Jose Silva and infielder Brandon Cromer in exchange for infielder Carlos Garcia, outfielder Orlando Merced and pitcher Dan Plesac.

[JWay]

the injuries should be an update on the final set so everyone doesn't have to deal with them. Some people like others don't. One beef about prospects (I know it was hard as hell for me last year) but for some of the a ballers it takes them until their 26+ to progress to the majors. I know to keep them in a ball they need a 1 BA or less for batters but try to get them as close to a 2 whit out going over. I dont remember what that # was. But they wont be stuck in a ball for 3 years when their 22-23. You don't have to but I just don't like having 3 of my best mariners prospects sitting in single a when they should be moving up. Good luck rolen.

[jerem77]

[quote]Originally posted by sko_dog:
<strong>Here is something else we may want to be aware of. Some ages are wrong.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Most teams don't even know the real ages of their players, so how can we expect Rolen to.

Anyway, someone mentioned in another thread that the fielding ratings for the two Alex Gonzalez's were switched. I noticed too, that A Gonz(Cubs)went from an "A" rating in the ootp3 update to a "C" in ootp4

[InsulinJunkie]

[quote]Originally posted by LilRedMachine:
<strong>Does a higher RF indicate better range?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not really. Range Factor is basically a counting stat:
RF - Range Factor (A + PO) / G or 9 * (A + PO)/ Inn

If you're an outfielder on a team with an extreme groundball staff, you could have the range of Andruw Jones, but still have a below-league average RF.

Zone Ratings are not perfect, but they attempt to measure how many balls were hit in the fielder's direction, and how many the fielder actually got to. It's generally regarded as the most accurate of the defensive stats, but it has its own flaws.


fluharty - Craig A. Wilson is nominally a catcher. In a perfect world where Kevin Young didn't have a fat multi-year contract, Wilson would be the starting first baseman, as he's put up good power numbers at whatever level he's played at.
He's horrible defensively at catcher though.

Once Durazo gets a starting job somewhere, the stathead call will probably change to FREE CRAIG WILSON!

Rolen - To keep this on topic, yes, there are indeed two Tom Wilsons on the Bluejays (in your rosters), as mentioned before.

[ March 06, 2002: Message edited by: InsulinJunkie ]</p>

[doubles]

A couple of things I found wrong playing as the Expos.

Carl Pavano should be rated a ML-ready pitcher, not AA. He had a bad (terrible) year last year only because he was recovering from an injury which stopped him while he was 8-4 in 2000.

Scott Downs (AA) is actually a starter not a closer.

Again, great rosters and thanks

J

[ March 06, 2002: Message edited by: doubles ]</p>

[Specs]

As far as I know from an article that I read a while back, the Expos have every intention of making him a closer when he's ready--a Billy Koch type situation.

[Erich Ingram]

[quote]Originally posted by doubles:
<strong>A couple of things I found wrong playing as the Expos.

Carl Pavano should be rated a ML-ready pitcher, not AA. He had a bad (terrible) year last year only because he was recovering from an injury which stopped him while he was 8-4 in 2000.

Scott Downs (AA) is actually a starter not a closer.

Again, great rosters and thanks

J

[ March 06, 2002: Message edited by: doubles ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


Major League Ready in Montreal means AA in most franchises.

All kidding aside yes I know he is Major League ready and I will take a look at him

[Peter]

Ben Grieve; his speed is rated an A he is at best a D.
BTW, your efforts are greatly appreciated.

[Raven]

Boston-

Dustin Hermanson- AvR rating is a 3, should probably be a 5. Career ERA of 4.23.

Manny Ramirez- is rated a 4 in doubles, yet has averaged almost 37 doubles/season over the past 6 seasons. Should equal a rating of about 7 or 8?
Nomar is rated a 6 in doubles, he should probably be a 7 or 8 also.

Johnny Damon - Stl Abil is a C, should at least be a B

Baltimore
Chris Singleton - rated a D in Stl Ability, should be a C. Makes 3 mill? seems a little high, although I dont know his actual salary

Marty Cordova is rated a 7 in HR's yet has only 100 in 2900 AB's...maybe a 5?

Chris Richard rated a 2 in HR's yet should probably be more like a 5.

Mike Bordick is rated a 3 in avg, but has a career .261 BA, but has considerably increased over the past 4 seasons. Should Probably be a 5

Brook Fordyce should be making more than 100k

Buddy Groom is a MR, not a closer.

Scott Erickson I also agree should have much higher ratings. He may return to form this year, and be a .500 pitcher 200+ IP, and an era of about 4.20, but his current ratings will never allow him to be anything or even rise about AA. Should also be making much more money.

Yankees

David Wells - ratings seem very low. Especially his AvR rating which is only a 3.

----Edit-- forgot to put in David Wells name

[ March 06, 2002: Message edited by: Raven ]</p>

[General Mike]

the Following players, who have not been mentioned yet, have the incorrect ages:

3B Morgan Ensberg, Houston Astros
He is listed as having a birthdate of 5/22/1980, but his birthdate is really 8/26/1975
<a href="http://astros.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/hou/team/hou_player_bio.jsp?club_context=hou&playerid=34856 3" target="_blank">http://astros.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/hou/team/hou_player_bio.jsp?club_context=hou&playerid=34856 3</a>

C Joe Mauer, Minnesota Twins
He is listed as having a birthdate of 3/14/1981, but his birthdate is really 4/19/1983.

I will keep my eye out for any other errors.

[metball4]

I think u should set a lil more injuries like

Pedro should be alot
Frank Thomas should be alot

ALso griff should be rated much higher
And your gonna have to change alonzo

he will be very good this year like
6-7 ave
7 hr

griff should be
like 7-6 average
12-10 hr
b speed
a rnge

[JRod]

Rolen:

I think Todd Helton range rating should be higher. Now if by range applies for all like an OF would always have more range than a 3 baseman I understand that. However if range is position specific Todd Helton has a range of D, however he's considered one of the best all-around if not the best all-around 1b, in baseball.

[CubsSox]

Roosevelt Brown for the Cubs is labeled as someone who doesn't have a shot and he doesn't develop at all... I think he's a top prospect for the Cubs. And, I've noticed that 90 percent of the catchers are rated with a C in the arm rating...

[troy]

Redsox
Derek Lowe should be a good in avoiding hits. He struggled badly last year, but previously was one of the better MR/CL in the game. His 3 year is .248, which puts him in good category anyway. He should be GGGGG, as his 3 year split in slugging against is .359 and obp is .299.

Arrojo is very much overrated in this game, at least as a starter. Same goes with Wakefield.

Burkett is questionable, but had a great year last year.

Dustin Hermanson is underrated. A 3 is a laugh.

Johnny Damon is too slow, as someone else pointed out. Last year he struggled, 27/39 but 2 previous years he was 72/87 in SB/Attempts.

Seung Song and Tony Blanco should be better rated prospects. Could make points for a few others, but they are questionable. Song had the 2nd best ERA in the minors behind Burkett, and Blanco came back from injury and posted monster numbers. Song i would give GAGGB, and Blanco I would rate GAPBFA. Maybe I'm being nice.

Tony Clark should be a "holds team together" player, as he is a clubhouse leader and represents the players union as well.


Manny Ramirez should at least be a 8 in getting hits vs L, and at least a 7 in getting hits vs Righties. Last year he only hit .307, but previously was hitting well over .330. No protection.

I think Varitek should be a good in walks, hes had a high total in limited at bats. Of course his injury gives him a limited data base for his career to judge him on.

Nomar should be a higher than a 2 in getting walks. He should be a 4, and average. Hes averaged 52bb per 550 PA the last 2 seasons he played fulltime.

Brian Daubach should be inconsisten at times.
Nomar should be consistent and clutch, along with Manny. Nixon should have some ability in being a leader. You missed Ryu Kumagai, the Japanese player the redsox signed. He is 22, and very much a prospect as a closer, but had posted awesome numbers overseas. Id give him a GAGGB as well. He allowed about 2 runs in over 100ips and went to the same school as Sasaki (the seattle closer).

I think thats about it for the redsox.

And is Alex Escobar overrated by everyone in the world? Whats up with that?

I think Texierra, Hamilton are underrated on the file as well, but a lot of prospects seem to be. Hard to rate prospects, but the top 25-50 should at least have good ratings, if not the top 100.


Jack Cust is just as good if not better than Carlos Pena with the bat, and should be a GAABBF. He is going to be a very good player, better than Thome. He cant field a lick, but AAAAA? Thats a bit harsh for someone whos averaged over 100bb and 30hrs in the minors for quite some time.

Too confirm what others have said... League leaders.. Guerrero hitting .399. So I went to see Vlad Guerreros awesome season and he was hitting .313, just to find out it was his brother Wilton who batted .399.