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Old 04-15-2026, 10:20 PM   #121
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I would assume you're using every player's all time prime? So 99-00 Pedro for Montreal, not like 97 Pedro, right?
Correct, every player will be set at the prime of their career, so 1999 Pedro here.
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Old 04-15-2026, 10:23 PM   #122
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NEW YORK METS — COOPERSTOWN LEAGUE ROSTER PREVIEW

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The New York Mets enter the Cooperstown League with one of the most fascinating roster constructions in the tournament — a blend of franchise icons, championship contributors, and modern superstar talent assembled with competitive balance in mind. Anchored by elite frontline pitching and a deep, dangerous lineup capable of scoring in multiple ways, this Mets club reflects the strongest traditions of the organization: power, personality, and postseason resilience.

This roster is built to win short series. The Mets feature dominant starting pitching at the top, a bullpen capable of closing games efficiently, and a lineup that balances elite on-base skill, middle-of-order power, speed pressure, and defensive reliability. With strong left-right balance throughout the roster and a legendary manager guiding the club, New York enters the Cooperstown League as a legitimate championship contender.

Manager
Casey Stengel


One of the most accomplished managers in baseball history, Casey Stengel brings unmatched pedigree to the Mets dugout. A seven-time World Series champion as manager of the Yankees and a Hall of Fame baseball mind, Stengel was known for maximizing roster depth, utilizing platoon advantages, and navigating pitching staffs with strategic precision. His ability to adapt across eras makes him an ideal leader for an all-time roster featuring players from multiple generations of Mets history.

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Citi Field provides a modern competitive environment that fairly balances pitching and offense. The spacious outfield rewards strong defensive play, while the park’s dimensions prevent extreme statistical distortion. This neutral setting allows the Mets roster to succeed based on talent rather than park advantages, ensuring that both power hitters and elite pitchers can perform to their historical standards.

Position Players
Catchers
Mike Piazza
Jerry Grote


Piazza provides Hall of Fame caliber offense at catcher, one of the greatest hitting backstops in baseball history. Grote complements him with elite defensive reliability and strong game-calling ability, allowing the Mets to maintain stability behind the plate in late-game situations.

First Base
Pete Alonso
Keith Hernandez


Alonso brings premier home run power capable of changing a game instantly. Hernandez, one of the finest defensive first basemen in MLB history, provides Gold Glove defense, high on-base skill, and championship pedigree.

Second Base
Edgardo Alfonzo


Alfonzo represents one of the most complete infielders in Mets history, providing contact ability, gap power, and dependable defense. His balanced offensive approach strengthens the middle of the lineup.

Shortstop
Francisco Lindor
Jose Reyes


Lindor provides elite two-way performance with power, defense, and switch-hitting versatility. Reyes adds speed, contact ability, and dynamic baserunning, giving the Mets multiple ways to pressure opposing defenses.

Third Base
David Wright
Howard Johnson


Wright anchors the lineup as one of the greatest players in franchise history, combining power, defense, and leadership. Johnson provides switch-hitting power and positional versatility, strengthening roster flexibility.

Outfield
Juan Soto
Darryl Strawberry
Lenny Dykstra
Cleon Jones


Soto delivers generational on-base ability and middle-order production. Strawberry provides elite power from the left side and remains one of the most iconic Mets hitters. Dykstra brings high-contact at-bats and postseason reliability, while Jones contributes championship pedigree and strong offensive consistency.

Designated Hitter
Yoenis Cespedes


Cespedes adds explosive slugging ability to the heart of the order, offering game-changing power capable of shifting momentum in a postseason series.

Pitching Staff
Starting Rotation
Tom Seaver
Dwight Gooden
Jerry Koosman
Al Leiter


Seaver stands among the greatest pitchers in baseball history, providing an ace capable of dominating any opponent. Gooden’s historic peak gives the Mets another frontline weapon, while Koosman and Leiter provide strong left-handed balance and postseason credibility.

Spot Starter
Matt Harvey

Harvey’s peak performance gives the Mets another high-upside arm capable of delivering quality starts when needed.

Long Relief
Jon Matlack


Matlack offers multi-inning reliability and additional starting depth, ensuring flexibility across a long tournament.

Bullpen
Edwin Diaz
John Franco
Jeurys Familia
Jesse Orozco
Roger McDowell

Diaz provides elite strikeout dominance in the closer role. Franco and Orozco give the Mets two accomplished left-handed relief options, while Familia adds power from the right side. McDowell contributes versatility and postseason experience.

Team Captain
David Wright


Wright represents the ideal leader for this roster, combining elite performance with professionalism and consistency. As the face of the Mets for over a decade, he provides stability and leadership for a team built to compete for a championship.

Strengths

The Mets feature one of the strongest top-of-rotation combinations in the Cooperstown League, led by Seaver and Gooden. The lineup provides multiple high-OBP hitters, power threats capable of changing games with one swing, and enough speed to pressure opposing defenses. The bullpen features strong balance from both sides, giving Stengel flexibility in late-game situations. Defensive strength up the middle ensures run prevention behind an already formidable pitching staff.

Weaknesses

The roster relies heavily on several players whose peak value exceeded their total career longevity, creating some variability in expected performance. Depth at second base remains thinner than other positions, and the outfield defense may rely on proper alignment to maximize effectiveness. As with many all-time rosters, balancing players from multiple eras requires careful strategic deployment by the manager.

The New York Mets enter the Cooperstown League with a roster capable of competing deep into the tournament. With elite pitching, a powerful middle of the lineup, and experienced leadership both on the field and in the dugout, this club has the tools necessary to pursue a championship.

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Old 04-15-2026, 11:18 PM   #123
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I would replace Cespedes with Brandon Nimmo, and potentially Casey Stengel with 1986 World Champion Davey Johnson or even 2015 NL Pennant winning Terry Collins.

Nimmo was a 10 year vet for New York, with 26 WAR and 4 3.5+ WAR seasons, vs Cespedes's 3 years. Yoenis was an arguable flop of a signing/trade for the Mets; his best season being a 2.6 WAR season in 2016, and a steep downfall from there; and he had better seasons for Oakland and Detroit earlier in his career. Nimmo was a mainstay in New York for a whole decade.

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Old 04-17-2026, 07:06 AM   #124
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New York Yankees — Cooperstown League Franchise Preview
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The New York Yankees enter the Cooperstown League carrying the most recognizable brand in baseball history, a franchise synonymous with championships, legendary figures, and an enduring standard of excellence that stretches across generations. From the thunderous emergence of the live-ball era to the dominance of multiple twentieth-century dynasties and into the modern era of global superstardom, the Yankees have consistently defined what greatness looks like on the diamond. This roster reflects that tradition in full, combining iconic power hitters, disciplined contact bats, elite defensive players, and a pitching staff built around postseason reliability. The expectation is not merely competitiveness — it is contention for the championship itself.

Constructed carefully under the competitive balance structure of the Cooperstown League, this Yankees team blends historic dynasties with modern impact talent while preserving the franchise’s identity of patience at the plate and dominance in high-leverage moments. The lineup features multiple inner-circle Hall of Fame hitters capable of changing games with one swing, supported by deep on-base skill and strong situational awareness. The pitching staff reflects the Yankees’ historical formula for winning championships: dependable starting pitching complemented by a bullpen anchored by one of the most dominant closers the game has ever seen. With Derek Jeter serving as captain, leadership and composure remain central characteristics of this club’s competitive makeup.

Manager

Manager — Joe Torre


Joe Torre brings championship pedigree and steady leadership to a roster filled with historic personalities and immense expectations. His experience managing elite talent in high-pressure environments ensures a calm, focused clubhouse atmosphere capable of sustaining performance over a long season.

Ballpark

Ballpark — Yankee Stadium

Yankee Stadium provides both atmosphere and competitive advantage, particularly for the left-handed power bats that have historically defined the franchise’s offensive identity. Monument Park serves as a constant reminder of the standard this team is expected to uphold.

Position Players
Catchers

C — Yogi Berra
C — Bill Dickey


Few teams can match the historical strength behind the plate possessed by the Yankees. Berra’s combination of power, leadership, and championship experience pairs perfectly with Dickey’s elite offensive profile and defensive stability. Together they provide exceptional production from a traditionally defense-first position.

Infield

1B — Lou Gehrig
1B — Don Mattingly

2B — Willie Randolph
2B — Tony Lazzeri

SS — Derek Jeter
SS — Phil Rizzuto

3B — Graig Nettles
3B — Gil McDougald

The infield combines elite offense with reliable defense across every position. Gehrig anchors the middle of the order as one of the greatest hitters in baseball history, while Randolph provides on-base consistency at the top of the lineup. Nettles and McDougald strengthen the defensive structure on the left side of the infield, complementing the steady presence of Jeter and Rizzuto at shortstop.

Outfield

OF — Babe Ruth
OF — Joe DiMaggio
OF — Mickey Mantle
OF — Aaron Judge
OF — Bernie Williams


The outfield represents an extraordinary concentration of power and production across baseball history. Ruth and Mantle provide generational power, DiMaggio delivers consistent run creation, Judge brings modern elite slugging, and Williams contributes switch-hitting versatility and postseason reliability. This group forms one of the most dangerous offensive units in the Cooperstown League.

Pitching Staff
Starting Rotation

SP1 — Whitey Ford
SP2 — Lefty Gomez
SP3 — Andy Pettitte
SP4 — Red Ruffing


Swing Starter

SP5 — Allie Reynolds

The rotation blends postseason success with historical durability, anchored by Ford’s championship consistency and Ruffing’s workhorse profile. Pettitte’s postseason résumé strengthens the staff’s ability to perform in high-leverage moments.

Bullpen

CL — Mariano Rivera

RP — Ron Guidry
RP — Dave Righetti
RP — Sparky Lyle
RP — Mel Stottlemyre
RP — Goose Gossage

Rivera anchors the bullpen as the most dominant closer in baseball history, supported by a collection of versatile arms capable of covering multiple innings and matchup situations.

Team Captain

Captain — Derek Jeter


Jeter’s leadership and postseason excellence make him the natural choice to guide this roster. His composure and consistency reflect the professionalism long associated with the Yankees organization.

Strengths

The Yankees possess extraordinary lineup power, capable of scoring in bursts through multiple Hall of Fame-caliber hitters. The roster demonstrates strong balance between contact ability and slugging power, ensuring consistent run production across different game situations. Defensively, the infield provides stability and experience, while the pitching staff emphasizes control, postseason success, and bullpen dominance anchored by Rivera.

Weaknesses

Compared to some Cooperstown League clubs, the roster leans heavily toward left-handed starting pitching, potentially creating matchup challenges against elite right-handed power lineups. Additionally, several position players come from earlier baseball eras, requiring adjustment against modern velocity profiles within the simulation environment.

The Yankees enter the Cooperstown League as one of the most historically accomplished and talent-rich teams in the field. Expectations will be immense, but this roster has both the pedigree and the performance capability to compete for the championship.

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I would move Berra to the Mets, replacing Grote, and put Elston Howard on the Yanks.
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I think you have Torre on the Braves as a player, and you have Babe Ruth on both the Yankees and the Red Sox, Nick. You said no duplicates, I believe, in this scenario. If so, then Ruth has to be off one of those teams, and so does Torre. For the Yankees manager, I would recommend Joe McCarthy, actually, whether or not I've previously done so here.

Backman should be on the Mets, I think, too. Cone should be on the Mets, probably, if not the Yankees, perhaps. Mets should use Shea, in my view. Yankees, the older Yankee Stadium, not the current one, but the classic one. CD out.
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No, Yogi Berra absolutely has to stay on the Yankees, WBF43. The Yankees wouldn't be the Yankees without Berra, or Billy Martin, for that matter, it seems to me. In that case, Willie Randolph would be out here, I think, for me, with the Yankees. They need Martin's fire here, instead of Randolph, in my view. Berra didn't play with the Mets, I believe. He was a player only with the Yankees, if I'm not too mistaken here. CD out.
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No, Yogi Berra absolutely has to stay on the Yankees, WBF43. The Yankees wouldn't be the Yankees without Berra, or Billy Martin, for that matter, it seems to me. In that case, Willie Randolph would be out here, I think, for me, with the Yankees. They need Martin's fire here, instead of Randolph, in my view. Berra didn't play with the Mets, I believe. He was a player only with the Yankees, if I'm not too mistaken here. CD out.
He played 4 games with the Mets in 1965!
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I think you have Torre on the Braves as a player, and you have Babe Ruth on both the Yankees and the Red Sox, Nick. You said no duplicates, I believe, in this scenario. If so, then Ruth has to be off one of those teams, and so does Torre. For the Yankees manager, I would recommend Joe McCarthy, actually, whether or not I've previously done so here.

Backman should be on the Mets, I think, too. Cone should be on the Mets, probably, if not the Yankees, perhaps. Mets should use Shea, in my view. Yankees, the older Yankee Stadium, not the current one, but the classic one. CD out.
I would take out manager Torre, replace him with Casey Stengel, and make 1986 Champion Davey Johnson the Mets Manager. Babe stays in Boston and is replaced with Paul O'Neill
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No, Stengel in Mets blue and orange, because he helped start the Mets, I believe, and McCarthy with the Yankees, unless Miller Huggins, I believe, could manage the Yankees instead of McCarthy here. Berra's prime was with the Yankees, and even if he DID play with the Mets, he fits best with the Yankees here, for sure. Davey Johnson could quite possibly fit the Browns/Orioles too, if he were used as a player here, I think. I believe the Yankees won more titles with McCarthy and/or Huggins than they did with Stengel or Torre. Yes, Torre was also with the Cardinals as both a player and as a manager, but I still think he fits at least a bit better with the Braves than the Cardinals and Yankees here, in this scenario here. CD out.
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There are no duplicate players but i made an exception only with Ruth and Ohtani because they can do both, but i am still contemplating this.

Managers and players are seperate, i am not worried about duplicating Torre.

As for Ruth not on the Yankees or Berra not on the Yankees, that cant happen in my view, they are central to the franchise and the history of baseball. and if Berra was removed, Munson would be my nest choice at catcher.

Torre has too be the manager of the Yankees. He built a dynasty in the modern game with free agency and everything else, there is no real argument against him.
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So, like Ohtani the hitter could be on the Dodgers, but his pitcher counterpart's on the Sendai Woodpeckers? And didn't you say that 2 way players would be used 2 way? So Boston Babe's also hitting and NY Babe's also pitching? That is the definition of duplicate.
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ok so this is the final decision on duplication: Ohtani will be able to pitch and hit on the Asian all-stars because he is on the same club, he does this perfectly fine with the Dodgers in real life.

Babe will be removed from the Red Sox as a pitcher and will be replaced. He will remain with the Yankees as an offensive player.
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So why not McCarthy or Huggins, who managed the Yankees when Ruth and others were on the roster? They're just as worthy of being the manager of the Yankees as Torre is, and with more championships for the Yankees when they were in charge than when Torre was in charge, I do believe. Martin's probably a better candidate for the Yankees as a player for them, or he could even be their manager here, if not Torre or McCarthy or Huggins, I think, with Stengel working for the Mets in this scenario. Just my thoughts here, of course. CD out.
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I feel like the Yankees have a ton of amazing outfielder options to replace Ruth, like Paul O'Neill, Roger Maris, Chris Chambliss, etc. The Sox would have to go down to like David Price? Rick Porcello? E-Rod? Clay Bucholtz? Would you rather have Clay getting shelled by Hank Greenberg, or Paul hitting slap singles off the bench?
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No, not necessarily. I suggested a Dutch Leonard earlier for Boston's Red Sox. IF Babe Ruth were with the Yankees, then perhaps he could then replace one of those currently projected for the Red Sox pitching staff. Schilling could be on either the Phillies or the Red Sox, because he played at least three productive years apiece with either team, I think. We could ask him whether he wanted to be on the Phillies or the Red Sox, if he's a forum member here, even, for this particular exercise, seeing as the D-backs aren't actually available here.

Nick is right, Ruth fits better with the Yankees. Just as Scioscia fits better with the Dodgers than Will Smith does, in my view. You also can't have the Yankees without Martin, I believe. Although, if you have Martin, who sits more between him and Lazzeri? I'd take Martin over Randolph, I think, for the Yankees here. But if you want to keep Randolph, maybe you can find a way to keep all three here, somehow. CD out.
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I feel like the Yankees have a ton of amazing outfielder options to replace Ruth, like Paul O'Neill, Roger Maris, Chris Chambliss, etc. The Sox would have to go down to like David Price? Rick Porcello? E-Rod? Clay Bucholtz? Would you rather have Clay getting shelled by Hank Greenberg, or Paul hitting slap singles off the bench?
Smoky Joe Wood will be the replacement for Ruth. Wood was dominant before his arm injury including a 34 win season. With Young, Clemens, Lester, and Wood the Red Sox will be fine.

I agree about the depth of the Yankees, but we cant breakup the core of their best players. As for Maris, he is a strong possibility to make the Cardinals outfield.
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Oakland Athletics — Cooperstown League Franchise Preview

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The Oakland Athletics enter the Cooperstown League carrying one of the richest and most complete legacies in baseball history. From the Connie Mack dynasties of Philadelphia to the swaggering championship clubs of 1970s Oakland and the power surge of the late-1980s Bash Brothers era, the Athletics have consistently produced teams defined by intelligence, innovation, and elite talent. This roster reflects that identity — a blend of Hall of Fame greatness, championship pedigree, and lineup balance capable of competing with any franchise in the league. Built to play in Oakland Coliseum and aligned in the NL West, the Athletics present a club combining historic dominance with strategic versatility.

Manager

Connie Mack


No figure in franchise history defines the Athletics more than Connie Mack, the winningest manager in baseball history and the architect of multiple dynasties spanning decades. Mack’s influence on the game extended far beyond tactics — he built cultures of discipline, intelligence, and execution. His ability to manage elite personalities while maintaining strategic clarity makes him the ideal leader for a roster composed of strong individual talents from multiple eras. With Mack guiding the club, the Athletics benefit from unmatched institutional baseball knowledge and a steady hand in high-pressure moments.

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Oakland Coliseum


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The Athletics will play their home games at Oakland Coliseum, preserving the modern identity of the franchise while hosting one of the most powerful rosters in the league. The Coliseum’s expansive foul territory rewards disciplined pitching and strong defensive play, both strengths of this club. It also provides continuity with the 1970s and late-1980s championship teams that defined the Oakland era.

Catchers

Gene Tenace
Terry Steinbach


Gene Tenace provides rare offensive impact at the catcher position, highlighted by his historic four-home-run performance in the 1972 World Series. His ability to reach base consistently strengthens the middle of the order and complements the club’s power hitters. Terry Steinbach adds durability, defensive reliability, and leadership behind the plate, giving the Athletics stability and depth at one of the most demanding positions on the field.

Infield

1B — Jason Giambi
DH — Mark McGwire
2B — Eddie Collins
SS — Bert Campaneris
SS — Miguel Tejada
3B — Home Run Baker
3B — Eric Chavez
UTIL — Tony Phillips


The Athletics infield combines elite power, historic leadership, and defensive flexibility. Jason Giambi anchors first base with MVP-level on-base ability, while Mark McGwire provides formidable power in the designated hitter role. Eddie Collins, one of the greatest second basemen in baseball history, sets the tone as both table-setter and team captain. Bert Campaneris contributes speed and defensive excellence at shortstop, with Miguel Tejada adding MVP-caliber depth and middle-of-the-order potential. At third base, Hall of Famer Home Run Baker provides early-era power credentials, while Eric Chavez offers elite defensive support. Tony Phillips gives the club exceptional versatility, capable of contributing at multiple positions while maintaining strong on-base production.

Outfield

Rickey Henderson
Reggie Jackson
Al Simmons
Jose Canseco
Joe Rudi


Few franchises can match the depth and impact of this outfield group. Rickey Henderson brings unparalleled speed and on-base ability as baseball’s all-time stolen base leader. Reggie Jackson delivers postseason pedigree and left-handed power, while Al Simmons provides Hall of Fame offensive consistency from the franchise’s early dynasty years. Jose Canseco contributes MVP-level slugging and athleticism, and Joe Rudi rounds out the group with defensive reliability and championship experience from the 1970s dynasty teams.

Starting Rotation

Lefty Grove
Eddie Plank
Catfish Hunter
Rube Waddell
Vida Blue (Swing Starter)


The Athletics rotation features extraordinary historical dominance. Lefty Grove stands among the greatest pitchers ever, supported by Hall of Famer Eddie Plank and strikeout legend Rube Waddell. Catfish Hunter brings championship experience from the 1970s dynasty, while Vida Blue provides Cy Young and MVP-level peak performance in the swing role. This group combines power, control, and historical consistency across eras.

Bullpen

Dennis Eckersley (Closer)
Rollie Fingers
Liam Hendriks
Huston Street
Rick Honeycutt
Darold Knowles


The bullpen blends Hall of Fame excellence with modern dominance. Dennis Eckersley provides one of the most efficient closing profiles in baseball history, supported by Hall of Famer Rollie Fingers and high-strikeout setup man Liam Hendriks. Huston Street offers multi-inning capability, while Rick Honeycutt provides left-handed matchup flexibility. Darold Knowles strengthens the unit with postseason-tested reliability from the Athletics dynasty years.

Team Captain

Eddie Collins


Eddie Collins serves as the on-field extension of Connie Mack’s philosophy. Known for his intelligence, leadership, and consistency, Collins represents the ideal captain for a roster constructed around discipline and execution. His presence provides continuity between eras and establishes the tone for the club’s approach to the game.

Strengths

The Athletics possess elite offensive balance, combining power, on-base ability, speed, and positional flexibility. The lineup features multiple MVP-level hitters and Hall of Fame contributors capable of producing runs in a variety of ways. The rotation is among the strongest in the Cooperstown League, with multiple historically dominant pitchers capable of controlling games deep into innings. The bullpen offers both power and control options, ensuring late-inning stability.

Defensively, the Athletics benefit from strong middle infield play and versatile depth capable of adjusting to matchup situations. The presence of Tony Phillips allows the team to adapt strategically without sacrificing offensive production.

Weaknesses

The roster leans heavily toward left-handed pitching in the rotation, which could create matchup challenges against lineups heavily constructed with right-handed power. Additionally, several players represent peak offensive eras that emphasized power production, potentially leading to streakiness against elite pitching staffs. The club’s success may depend on maintaining lineup balance and maximizing situational execution against top-tier competition.

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Wait no Jimmie Foxx?
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No, no Maris for the Cardinals. Musial, Brock, McGee, Slaughter, and Medwick, at least, would be strong candidates for my Cardinals, outfield-wise. Musial can also play first, when Pujols isn't playing first or in the outfield, and is playing third. Catchers would have to include Yadier Molina, and since Porter is gone, perhaps the catcher for the Cardinals in the 1940's or the one in the 1920's and/or 1930's would be good picks here for them, if not Matheny, in my view. Second base Hornsby and Schoendienst, for sure, shortstops Marion and Ozzie, Pepper Martin possibly third base and outfielder, at least. Other potential Cardinals first basemen possibilities include Mize and Bottomley, at least, for sure, even with Cepeda gone.

McGwire can also play third, I believe, for the Athletics. Dave Stewart might be good for the Athletics too, if memory serves. Cone should be on the Mets or Yankees, I think.

Yes, WBF43 is right, Foxx should be on the Athletics too. If you're having Collins, you have to have Foxx on the Athletics. I'm sure there are better options at shortstop than Campaneris and/or Tejada for them, too. You should consider dumping Canseco and Rudi, while you're at it here, perhaps. Surely there are much better outfielder options to go with Reggie Jackson and Rickey Henderson and Al Simmons here for the Athletics. Hendricks is probably too recent to make the team here, and I think he played with the Cubs longer. Hunter probably wouldn't fit the Yankees with all their great pitching, so this might be a good choice for him here. I believe Rube Marquand also played for the Athletics, if memory serves here.

Tenace and Steinbach are good picks for the Athletics, if Cochrane's on the Tigers, I believe. Just my views here on the Cardinals and other teams, that's all. CD out.
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