Japanese Players Service Time

[pc647]

The new signings from Japan (Okamoto, Imai, Murakami) all seem to have incorrect service times at the start of the season, ranging from 3 to 6 years when they should be 0 (unless there's a rule I'm unaware of).
Noticed when I was surprised Okamoto didn't get any votes for RoY.
Thanks!

[pfholden]

Originally Posted by pc647

The new signings from Japan (Okamoto, Imai, Murakami) all seem to have incorrect service times at the start of the season, ranging from 3 to 6 years when they should be 0 (unless there's a rule I'm unaware of).
Noticed when I was surprised Okamoto didn't get any votes for RoY.
Thanks!

I am pretty sure this is done so they are not arb-eligible at the end of their deals. If OOTP starts them at 0 years of service time, the game will treat them like the rest of the league, subject to 6 years of team control, even though this doesn't apply to them in real life.

[jwisenberg]

Originally Posted by pfholden

I am pretty sure this is done so they are not arb-eligible at the end of their deals. If OOTP starts them at 0 years of service time, the game will treat them like the rest of the league, subject to 6 years of team control, even though this doesn't apply to them in real life.

correct

[pc647]

Originally Posted by pfholden

I am pretty sure this is done so they are not arb-eligible at the end of their deals. If OOTP starts them at 0 years of service time, the game will treat them like the rest of the league, subject to 6 years of team control, even though this doesn't apply to them in real life.

Ahh right that makes sense. Would they still be eligible for RoY awards though?

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by pc647

The new signings from Japan (Okamoto, Imai, Murakami) all seem to have incorrect service times at the start of the season, ranging from 3 to 6 years when they should be 0 (unless there's a rule I'm unaware of).
Noticed when I was surprised Okamoto didn't get any votes for RoY.
Thanks!

Do they have Major League service time or total pro service years? Generally when an international player signs their Major League service time is wiped but they keep total pro service years for arbitration issues

Major League service time is what determines if they are a rookie or not

[Thehildabeast]

Originally Posted by pfholden

I am pretty sure this is done so they are not arb-eligible at the end of their deals. If OOTP starts them at 0 years of service time, the game will treat them like the rest of the league, subject to 6 years of team control, even though this doesn't apply to them in real life.

Yes this was a problem back in 2025 you would have a player opt out or end his contract and you still have him in arb, granted they would get a ton of money but you had control

[pc647]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

Do they have Major League service time or total pro service years? Generally when an international player signs their Major League service time is wiped but they keep total pro service years for arbitration issues

Major League service time is what determines if they are a rookie or not

Both, for example Okamoto has 660 Total Major League Service Days and 6 years of Total Pro Service Years .


I guess the solution is to just manually remove the Major League Service Days and keep the Total Pro Service Years for now?

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by pc647

Both, for example Okamoto has 660 Total Major League Service Days and 6 years of Total Pro Service Years .


I guess the solution is to just manually remove the Major League Service Days and keep the Total Pro Service Years for now?

Yeah that's been my solution. This way they will show up as rookies

[ajsomers]

FWIW, Tomoyuki Sugano should probably be adjusted similarly. He signed a one-year deal w/ COL and will not be arbitration eligible after 2026.

Presumably, the same should go for Sung Mung Song (SD) and any other players to come over in recent seasons.

[pc647]

Originally Posted by ajsomers

FWIW, Tomoyuki Sugano should probably be adjusted similarly. He signed a one-year deal w/ COL and will not be arbitration eligible after 2026.

Presumably, the same should go for Sung Mung Song (SD) and any other players to come over in recent seasons.

As of the latest patch, Sugano has 1 year of ML service time and Song has none, which I think is correct. (These were probably correct before but not sure.)