Pitch usage

[Jasper70]

Other than recording each AB using the Pitch Widget in the PbP window and using pencil and paper, is there any to record a pitchers individual pitch usage?

[ColumbusJets]

I don't know any better way to do this. I don't know any use for the information.

[liberty-ca]

There is no practical use for individual pitch usage, the pitch widget is in the game for entertaiment and amusement.

[Jasper70]

Actually, I have gleaned quite a bit from tracking pitch usage. Especially in younger pitchers and that ever famous "Catcher Ability" rating. Example, catchers with 50 catcher ability rely on a young pitchers best pitch while higher rated catchers call a game using a more balanced approach using the entire pitch mix. For me, as a former catcher and coach, keeping a game record of this sort is natural.

[ColumbusJets]

Originally Posted by Jasper70

Actually, I have gleaned quite a bit from tracking pitch usage. Especially in younger pitchers and that ever famous "Catcher Ability" rating. Example, catchers with 50 catcher ability rely on a young pitchers best pitch while higher rated catchers call a game using a more balanced approach using the entire pitch mix. For me, as a former catcher and coach, keeping a game record of this sort is natural.

Actually you haven't. However if you enjoy doing it carry on.

[WhiskyTango]

Originally Posted by liberty-ca

There is no practical use for individual pitch usage, the pitch widget is in the game for entertaiment and amusement.

Unlike the rest of OOTP which, if you stick around long enough in the forums, you'll learn exists because it is a portal into other, higher dimensions and modes of consciousness and can save lives.


But, if you're just here because you *sigh* find the actual gameplay of baseball "entertaining" or somehow "amuzing"... that is, you need to "ah-muuuze yourself" .... *headshake* & *eyeroll* combination ***






*** to be read aloud in Brian Regan voice

[edit] However, actually, to be fair, I don't know if the pitch count information is in any way relevant to anything. Iow, it could just be noise. I wouldn't put it past them. Due to the utter lack of priority OOTP gives to pitch location (contrary to the rest of the world) I'd actually be surprised if pitch location meant anything. I haven't used it long enough to get a sense.

[Jasper70]

Originally Posted by liberty-ca

There is no practical use for individual pitch usage, the pitch widget is in the game for entertaiment and amusement.

I have found very few things in OOTP that are not relevant. I'm not even looking at pitch location but I do pay attention to sequencing of pitches each at bat. Remember when Catcher framing was just a joke but the statistics and metrics told a story that baseball couldn't ignore. Then suddenly, framing became a statistic in OOTP as part of catching with a separate rating. Maybe there is nothing there and I'm a heretic shouting at the moon. But just because we don't "see" it, doesn't mean it not there.

[liberty-ca]

Perhaps. You might be very well right on all accounts. I never realy ment to argue. I just don't understand the practical value of this knowledge. You can't be micromanaging on such microscopical level, can you?

[ColumbusJets]

Originally Posted by Jasper70

I have found very few things in OOTP that are not relevant. I'm not even looking at pitch location but I do pay attention to sequencing of pitches each at bat. Remember when Catcher framing was just a joke but the statistics and metrics told a story that baseball couldn't ignore. Then suddenly, framing became a statistic in OOTP as part of catching with a separate rating. Maybe there is nothing there and I'm a heretic shouting at the moon. But just because we don't "see" it, doesn't mean it not there.

You're not a heretic. Heretics are a small marginalized minority. Your views about very few things not being useful (I think you mean that as nothing you've discovered to date) are held by a large minority and perhaps even a majority.

[ColumbusJets]

Originally Posted by liberty-ca

Perhaps. You might be very well right on all accounts. I never realy ment to argue. I just don't understand the practical value of this knowledge. You can't be micromanaging on such microscopical level, can you?

The devs have stated outcomes are calculated on a per PA basis. This is supported by testing people have done on the take pitch function. This conflicts with the idea pitch widget information is useful data.